An IRS Lein against Aaron...

[Kita]

I just went over to the Monroe County Clerk's office to see if there was anything about the emancipation on record there (I'm nosy like that). Nothing like that...but Aaron's got an IRS lein against him for $305,621.68 for unpaid 1040 taxes for 2001 and 2002.

Yeah. Um. Obviously SOMEONE hasn't been doing their job with his finances.

[BSBrockmyworld]

Interesting

Once again poor kid.

[NicksAirhead272]

poor child!

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

Poor Aaron:(

[Kita]

I'll tell you what, I'd be killing whomever was in charge of paying my taxes if I were him. I think that's more money owed in taxes in two years than I've made my entire life. :eek:

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

Originally posted by Kita
I'll tell you what, I'd be killing whomever was in charge of paying my taxes if I were him. I think that's more money owed in taxes in two years than I've made my entire life. :eek:

My thoughts exactly Kita.

[Laura1207]

They just give out that kind of information?

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

I think it's public record.

Right, Kita?

[AczGurl1207]

yaa, humm.. im just tad but confused!

Originally posted by Laura1207
They just give out that kind of information?

[KaoticSnap]

Originally posted by Kita
I'll tell you what, I'd be killing whomever was in charge of paying my taxes if I were him. :eek:

Holy crap yeah. I can't believe that. Such a shame.

[Dude_Carter28]

Wow that is really sad... on all accounts.

[laquena]

jeepers!

Cant he sue or something.....o man im praying for him.

[Kita]

Yes, it's public record. If it weren't public record, I wouldn't be able to access it from here.

I also know that the things Jane said recently about Bob's domestic violence arrest are BS. Those charges were dropped back in November according to the Court Clerk's site in Monroe County.

Also, Bob has petitioned the court for a change in venue on the divorce proceedings, taking it out of the Monroe County jurisdiction.

BTW. Ya'll don't have to believe me. lost_in_justins_smile knows that I only post what I know to be fact, but if you have a problem and don't believe me, you can go to google.com and type in monroe county florida court clerk, get to the website and look up the public records yourself. Aaron's lein paperwork is under Official REcords; Bob's trial information is under Criminal Records; the divorce information is under Civil REcords.

[Nick_Is_Sexy]

That's awful. I feel so bad for him *hugs Aaron*

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

Originally posted by Kita
Yes, it's public record. If it weren't public record, I wouldn't be able to access it from here.

I also know that the things Jane said recently about Bob's domestic violence arrest are BS. Those charges were dropped back in November according to the Court Clerk's site in Monroe County.

Also, Bob has petitioned the court for a change in venue on the divorce proceedings, taking it out of the Monroe County jurisdiction.

BTW. Ya'll don't have to believe me. lost_in_justins_smile knows that I only post what I know to be fact, but if you have a problem and don't believe me, you can go to google.com and type in monroe county florida court clerk, get to the website and look up the public records yourself. Aaron's lein paperwork is under Official REcords; Bob's trial information is under Criminal Records; the divorce information is under Civil REcords.

Yeah, Kita is like the records extraodinaire:D.

[BSBrockmyworld]

Kita I love your PI skills :)

Anyway, Aaron was saying he also found out some bills aren't paid so maybe that's it ... or at least I hope it is.

[Kita]

Originally posted by BSBrockmyworld
Kita I love your PI skills :)

Anyway, Aaron was saying he also found out some bills aren't paid so maybe that's it ... or at least I hope it is.

That would make sense. This paperwork was filed on NOvember 19. It was shortly thereafter that we started hearing about him severing ties with Jane.

[ACzCrzyLover]

aww poor Aaron *hugs* . I hope that this all gets over with soon!! :cry:

[Kita]

Oh, wow. Can I just say I'm glad that Nick has separate management? I just went back to teh site and found out that Bob and Jane have an IRS lien, too, for $285,091.26 for taxes not paid in '99, '01, '02.

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

Originally posted by Kita
Oh, wow. Can I just say I'm glad that Nick has separate management? I just went back to teh site and found out that Bob and Jane have an IRS lien, too, for $285,091.26 for taxes not paid in '99, '01, '02.

Good lord!

[Julie2]

Originally posted by Kita
Oh, wow. Can I just say I'm glad that Nick has separate management? I just went back to teh site and found out that Bob and Jane have an IRS lien, too, for $285,091.26 for taxes not paid in '99, '01, '02.

What have they DONE with all the money their kids made?!?!?!

[frackgrl1128]

wow. thats a *****load of money they owe. but how does aaron a minor owe taxes?

[LittleAphrodite]

The ironic thing is the amount of money Aaron owes the IRS is roughly the same amount as the value of the Bentley Micheal Jackson gave him for this birthday [worth $329,000 according to ET]. He could always sell it to pay his taxes, and have some left over! ;)

But seriously, poor Aaron. He is stuck in the middle of all of this. A 16-year-old shouldn't have to deal with this stuff.

[Kita]

Originally posted by frackgrl1128
wow. thats a *****load of money they owe. but how does aaron a minor owe taxes?

If you earn more than $500.00/year, you HAVE to file a 1040, no matter how old you are.

Ultimately, his parents would be responsible, since he's a minor...but since he has a net worth of more than his parents, probably, they will go after him.

[khabn43]

That is just so dumb. Obviously its not his fault... he's mya age I couldn't imagine having to pay taxes and be in debt and all this other stuff :o :(

[frackgrl1128]

Originally posted by Kita
If you earn more than $500.00/year, you HAVE to file a 1040, no matter how old you are.

Ultimately, his parents would be responsible, since he's a minor...but since he has a net worth of more than his parents, probably, they will go after him.

oo ok. i get it

[Julie2]

Do you know how much you have to EARN to owe that much in taxes??? WHERE is all that money? Apparently they haven't got it or the back taxes would be paid, so where did it all go??

[Kita]

Originally posted by Julie2
Do you know how much you have to EARN to owe that much in taxes??? WHERE is all that money? Apparently they haven't got it or the back taxes would be paid, so where did it all go??

Houses, cars, boats, clothes, frivolous things. You'd be amazed at how fast money can go when you think you have an endless supply.

Who knows...maybe their accountant just screwed them over. Maybe Jane didn't want to authorize the payments. Whatever the case...it's pretty sad that a 16 year old has to worry about liens from the federal government. If these things aren't paid off, he will never be able to buy his own house or car or anything until his debt to the government is paid.

[aaronzangel109]

okay, why are they pinnin all this on ac? are tey pinnin it on his management and stuff, or just aaron. I mean he dont control it or nothin.

[Kita]

Originally posted by aaronzangel109
okay, why are they pinnin all this on ac? are tey pinnin it on his management and stuff, or just aaron. I mean he dont control it or nothin.

Regardless of whose "fault" it is, they have to go after the person who earned the money (in this case, Aaron). They will tell him that not knowing that his taxes weren't being filed and paid in a timely manner isn't an excuse; ignorance of the law is not a viable defense. They will tell him that he needed to make sure that his financial situation was being handled in the proper manner.

[aaronzangel109]

Originally posted by Kita
Regardless of whose "fault" it is, they have to go after the person who earned the money (in this case, Aaron). They will tell him that not knowing that his taxes weren't being filed and paid in a timely manner isn't an excuse; ignorance of the law is not a viable defense. They will tell him that he needed to make sure that his financial situation was being handled in the proper manner.



Okay, Thank you very much Kita.

[albor10]

Regardless of whose "fault" it is, they have to go after the person who earned the money (in this case, Aaron). They will tell him that not knowing that his taxes weren't being filed and paid in a timely manner isn't an excuse; ignorance of the law is not a viable defense. They will tell him that he needed to make sure that his financial situation was being handled in the proper manner.

It's terrible taht for Janes action with his money, Aaron can be punished by goverment. It's will be a big lesson for all Carters kids, never do business with their parents.

[FictionGirl]

Originally posted by Julie2
Do you know how much you have to EARN to owe that much in taxes??? WHERE is all that money? Apparently they haven't got it or the back taxes would be paid, so where did it all go??

I remember in Sarasota when we were out by the boats that my mother made a comment about Bob, because he was going around with a huge gold watch, a fancy little white sports car with his 'girlfriend'. She said that they were just living off of Nick and Aaron's money, and ya know, it's sad. I think that now.

[Kita]

Originally posted by FictionGirl
I remember in Sarasota when we were out by the boats that my mother made a comment about Bob, because he was going around with a huge gold watch, a fancy little white sports car with his 'girlfriend'. She said that they were just living off of Nick and Aaron's money, and ya know, it's sad. I think that now.

I've thought that since before I officially became a BSB fan.

[cloud9]

I don't blame Aaron for wanting to emancipate himself. It must have been a shock for him to learn he owed money to the IRS. You do not want to mess with them. It makes me wonder why Nick isn't in the tax situation that Jane, Bob and Aaron are in. He must have his finances somewhere else. Maybe he moved his money after he became "of age". It's possible that Jane and Bob have used mostly Aaron's money in recent years to buy "the compound" and all the toys. I think Nick originally purchased the property down there and then sold/transfered it to his parents. The money trail is fascinating. It's too bad money ends up driving families apart though.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Statistics show the number one cause for divorce in the US is finances. Money (or lack of) does strange things to people.

[Julie2]

Originally posted by cloud9
I don't blame Aaron for wanting to emancipate himself. It must have been a shock for him to learn he owed money to the IRS. You do not want to mess with them. It makes me wonder why Nick isn't in the tax situation that Jane, Bob and Aaron are in. He must have his finances somewhere else. Maybe he moved his money after he became "of age". It's possible that Jane and Bob have used mostly Aaron's money in recent years to buy "the compound" and all the toys. I think Nick originally purchased the property down there and then sold/transfered it to his parents. The money trail is fascinating. It's too bad money ends up driving families apart though.

Several years ago, when Nick had his first big split with Mandy, he and his parents purchased a ranch together in Santa Barbara County, CA. Nick paid for half, and his parents were supposed to make payments on the rest. At the time, his parents were in charge of Nick's accounts, and rumor had it that they were skimming from Nick's accounts to pay for their part. When Nick found out, he moved his stuff out of their house, and gave his accounts over to an accountant, who happened to be Mandy's sister. I think since then, Nick has not allowed his parents access to his money. He did, however, say in an interview after he and his family made amends, that he was buying his dad a house in the Florida Keys. Nick's name was on the original deed along with those of Jane and Bob, and he filed a "quit claim" deed, thereby giving complete ownership of the Marathon house over to his parents, for what was termed, "love and affection."

Jane HAS worked hard to further Aaron's career, and for that, she is entitled to be properly compensated. However, when you look at the amount that SHE owes in back taxes, they are very close to the amount Aaron owes--meaning that she was pulling in almost the same amount of money Aaron was as the star. It's hard to imagine a legitimate manager would earn almost as much money as the star she promotes. At that rate, managers would have no need to sign more than one big act to their roster. Additionally, it appears that she helped herself, or, at the very least, mismanaged the money that AARON made too.

[FictionGirl]

I just think it's freakin' sad. I still think that neither of them deserve custody of them.

[BSBrockmyworld]

Yeah I think Nick learned a few years ago to keep his finances seperate from the family. I'm happy Aaron decided to do the same, better now then later, but I hope they are out of Bob's reach too, no need for Aaron to support the fiancee and her daugter.

I'd say Nick and Aaron should close the pipes for some time so that the other family mambers could discover the joys of work.

And I don't think Aaron is without any money, someone said (don't know who, Denise maybe) that 15% of the money goes automaticly in a seperate account and in the interview he said the earnings from the latest tour are missing.

[FictionGirl]

If this is the same 'girlfriend' he was with in July... before they ever filed for divorce then he didn't just meet her in September, and besides... he just met her in September... and now is engaged? Guess Bob just don't like to be without a wife, it's his what, 3rd marriage?

Plus if this woman is 29... and it's the same woman that I saw him with that I nicknamed Grandma Barbie, then I'll kiss everybody's ass lmao

[BSBrockmyworld]

Is that the womam from the Sarasota pictures? With hat and celulite (sp?)?

[FictionGirl]

That's the woman he was with down there. Yes the leopard print cowboy hat, she looked a lot older than 29. I'm not saying anything bad about her, but everytime I saw her that weekend, she was drunk.

When Rachel and I was sitting there drinking Sprite lmao a couple was trying to find the bathroom and she came in and we were trying to tell them where it was, and she almost sent them to the kitchen LMAO

[Foxie7Ash]

Originally posted by BSBrockmyworld
Is that the womam from the Sarasota pictures? With hat and celulite (sp?)?

No

[freaxoutz]

Heck, I think Aaron should just live with Nick. Away from them, I guess all they do is just counting on Aaron to bring home the $ for them to use. People these days. C'mon!

[FictionGirl]

Well if it's not the same women then I still think it's ****ed up for him to be engaged to a woman who he's only known for what 2 months?

I personally would like to see Bob, Jane, Angel, BJ, and Leslie get out and get a REAL damn job and stop living off of their sons/brothers and stop trying to be something that they aren't. Just because your brothers are singers don't mean you can either.

[We Got Corn]

Originally posted by Julie2

Jane HAS worked hard to further Aaron's career, and for that, she is entitled to be properly compensated. However, when you look at the amount that SHE owes in back taxes, they are very close to the amount Aaron owes--meaning that she was pulling in almost the same amount of money Aaron was as the star. It's hard to imagine a legitimate manager would earn almost as much money as the star she promotes. At that rate, managers would have no need to sign more than one big act to their roster. Additionally, it appears that she helped herself, or, at the very least, mismanaged the money that AARON made too.

According to Aaron on ET the other night, management skimmed 20% off the top. His trust got only 15%...so yeah, she was making more than he was.

And maybe my memory is warped, but isn't 20% excessive? I thought management usually skimmed more like 10 or 15%.

[cloud9]

Originally posted by Julie2
Several years ago, when Nick had his first big split with Mandy, he and his parents purchased a ranch together in Santa Barbara County, CA. Nick paid for half, and his parents were supposed to make payments on the rest. At the time, his parents were in charge of Nick's accounts, and rumor had it that they were skimming from Nick's accounts to pay for their part. When Nick found out, he moved his stuff out of their house, and gave his accounts over to an accountant, who happened to be Mandy's sister. I think since then, Nick has not allowed his parents access to his money. He did, however, say in an interview after he and his family made amends, that he was buying his dad a house in the Florida Keys. Nick's name was on the original deed along with those of Jane and Bob, and he filed a "quit claim" deed, thereby giving complete ownership of the Marathon house over to his parents, for what was termed, "love and affection."

Jane HAS worked hard to further Aaron's career, and for that, she is entitled to be properly compensated. However, when you look at the amount that SHE owes in back taxes, they are very close to the amount Aaron owes--meaning that she was pulling in almost the same amount of money Aaron was as the star. It's hard to imagine a legitimate manager would earn almost as much money as the star she promotes. At that rate, managers would have no need to sign more than one big act to their roster. Additionally, it appears that she helped herself, or, at the very least, mismanaged the money that AARON made too.

Thanks for the clarification, Julie. I had forgotten about the ranch and all the drama with Mandy. I do remember that Mandy's sister was Nick's accountant for a period of time though, and I also remembered him accusing his parents of skimming in an interview once. Obviously they made amends enough for him to buy the Florida property and then sign it over. I wonder what his plans are next considering things have changed a lot with Jane moving out, Aaron filing for emancipation and Bob and his fiance (and her daughter) in the picture now. My first instinct if I were in that situation would be to run... the farther the better! He probably wants and needs to be around for his siblings though.

[yikes]

Originally posted by We Got Corn

And maybe my memory is warped, but isn't 20% excessive? I thought management usually skimmed more like 10 or 15%.

My sister told me that 15% is from manager duties, 5% is for living expenses and making sure Aaron's needs are taken care of.

[Suej+AJ+Kev]

What bugs me is that this shows that money problems have been going on a lot longer than just his last tour. The huge lien on him is from the year ending 2002. He was 14 years old for most of 2002. Even though it's his income, someone else obviously was handling his accounting.

When you have a business, you are required to make quarterly estimated tax payments to the IRS. That means you pay 1/4 of your estimated tax every 3 months. This isn't something you do if you FEEL LIKE IT, this is REQUIRED and for any business this is the TOP PRIORITY. If you don't make these payments, there are fines.

The only reason you don't make estimated tax payments is if you don't have the money. Which means that someone has been stealing from this child for a long time.

The lien filed with Monroe County, FL is a legal attachment to HIS ASSETS. Anything that Aaron sells....property, cars etc. the IRS gets first dibs on the money.

This isn't just a bill for the taxes. This is what they do when you have ignored repeated bills and they have no recourse but to put a lien on your assets.

I blame both of the parents in this. They were BOTH his managers for a long time. They have worked, earned and paid taxes for a lot of years and they know how it goes. They have stolen from their son and that to me is criminal.

And that's not even addressing the betrayal and the emotional damage.

Sue J.

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

Originally posted by Suej+AJ+Kev
What bugs me is that this shows that money problems have been going on a lot longer than just his last tour. The huge lien on him is from the year ending 2002. He was 14 years old for most of 2002. Even though it's his income, someone else obviously was handling his accounting.

When you have a business, you are required to make quarterly estimated tax payments to the IRS. That means you pay 1/4 of your estimated tax every 3 months. This isn't something you do if you FEEL LIKE IT, this is REQUIRED and for any business this is the TOP PRIORITY. If you don't make these payments, there are fines.

The only reason you don't make estimated tax payments is if you don't have the money. Which means that someone has been stealing from this child for a long time.

The lien filed with Monroe County, FL is a legal attachment to HIS ASSETS. Anything that Aaron sells....property, cars etc. the IRS gets first dibs on the money.

This isn't just a bill for the taxes. This is what they do when you have ignored repeated bills and they have no recourse but to put a lien on your assets.

I blame both of the parents in this. They were BOTH his managers for a long time. They have worked, earned and paid taxes for a lot of years and they know how it goes. They have stolen from their son and that to me is criminal.

And that's not even addressing the betrayal and the emotional damage.

Sue J.

Well said, Sue J.

[cloud9]

SueJ, you bring up excellent points. You're right that this has to have been going on for a long time. And I agree that both parents have to share the blame for the IRS Lein. I wonder if they'll try to blame someone who worked for the family (making a loose reference here to the infamous web site debacle a couple of years ago). In any case, the hole just seems to be getting deeper and deeper. The lawyers and accountants love this kind of thing....their wallets will grow at Aaron's expense no doubt. I just feel so bad for this kid.

[Suej+AJ+Kev]

And if nobody paid for Aaron's 2002 taxes what are the chances that they have paid for his 2003 taxes all year? Or their own? Probably pretty slim.

And Jane has the nerve to call Bob "trailer trash?" I think they ought to furnish these 2 with a nice trailer, shut the door and let them figure out how to work out their "differences" and find the money to pay back their CHILD who was their source of income all those years.

Disclaimer - *No offense intended to persons who live in a moblie home*

Sue J.

[Julie2]

Originally posted by Suej+AJ+Kev

I blame both of the parents in this. They were BOTH his managers for a long time. They have worked, earned and paid taxes for a lot of years and they know how it goes. They have stolen from their son and that to me is criminal.

And that's not even addressing the betrayal and the emotional damage.

Sue J.

They've stolen from BOTH of their sons. They tried this with Nick a few years ago, and this just goes to show what a big heart that kid has. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Jane decides to sue Aaron for lost wages. That was their original plan with Nick.

[cloud9]

Here's an article with a few more tidbits from Jane. The last couple of sentences make me cringe:

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,13115,00.html?tnews

And Julie, the swarminess apparently knows no bounds if she was gonna sue Nick for back wages. Yikes!

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

So she doesn't like the fact that they are making this a public issue, yet she wants to write a book about her family.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

But once again, for the sake of Aaron and the rest of the kids, I hope they work out these issues before it drives their family further apart.

[Kita]

Jane needs to chill about the domestic abuse allegations, because on November 4, 2003, the case was DROPPED/ABANDONDED by the Monroe County Court. The case is closed. Did someone forget to tell Jane? I'm sure she's using it as a sympathy ploy.

HELLO??? It's public freakin' record.

I have a feeling all of this is just the tip of the iceburg.

[ACzCrzyLover]

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Jane decides to sue Aaron for lost wages.

Woahhh, is it really possible for her to sue her 16 year old son?!
It makes me so sad to see how both of the parents would choose $ over their kids. :(

[Kita]

Originally posted by ACzCrzyLover
Woahhh, is it really possible for her to sue her 16 year old son?!
It makes me so sad to see how both of the parents would choose $ over their kids. :( I believe that Jane has always chosen money over her kids. Do you hear her say anything bout the ones that aren't making her money?

[acbiggestfan]

aaaw.. poor Aaron.. sniff.

[MissInnocent]

Not to compare Jane to Joan Crawford but can y'all say Mommie Dearest? :rolleyes:

[oceangirl]

Originally posted by acbiggestfan
aaaw.. poor Aaron.. sniff.

Is that you in your avatar? cuz if it is, you remind me of the olson twins! :D

[Sez]

Both parents need a huge reality check . To me it looks like for a good few years, neither parents have had an accountant looking after their and aaron's money, eitherwise both their's and aaron's taxes would of been payed. And the whole bob's new wife thing icks me out expecially after only 2 months.Wouldn't you want as a parent to get this mess cleaned up before bringing in a new mother figure for the children. And i read in another post this woman has a 6 year old child who is witnessing all this. It's bad enough his own children are, why bring someone else's into it. How did Nick come out of that family so together , and able to use the "no comment" line , keep things private and be so careful about who he dates. When after his dad splits with his mom , two months later he's engaged again. I think it's safe to say, since Nick broke in with the Backstreet Boys no one, children or parents , have actually worked a real job. I mean what do his sisters do ?

[khabn43]

It looks like Nick has Angel in those pics posted in the BSB forum I wonder where Aaron is right now

[MissInnocent]

Originally posted by Sez
Both parents need a huge reality check . To me it looks like for a good few years, neither parents have had an accountant looking after their and aaron's money, eitherwise both their's and aaron's taxes would of been payed. And the whole bob's new wife thing icks me out expecially after only 2 months.Wouldn't you want as a parent to get this mess cleaned up before bringing in a new mother figure for the children. And i read in another post this woman has a 6 year old child who is witnessing all this. It's bad enough his own children are, why bring someone else's into it. How did Nick come out of that family so together , and able to use the "no comment" line , keep things private and be so careful about who he dates. When after his dad splits with his mom , two months later he's engaged again. I think it's safe to say, since Nick broke in with the Backstreet Boys no one, children or parents , have actually worked a real job. I mean what do his sisters do ?

One I think Nick being raised by the Boys, helped. Also I think he just has a sense of privacy and respect more so than his parents do. I guess we can call it a miracle.

[heythere05]

those pics are from octboer... and even if it says Aaron Carter he is a minor and a parent takes care of taxes for minors

[DoubleEdgeSword]

"Jane Carter said she...plans to write another book--this one detailing the inside story of her family."

Oh please don't do that. Really. Just don't.

[Suej+AJ+Kev]

Originally posted by heythere05
and even if it says Aaron Carter he is a minor and a parent takes care of taxes for minors

Not quite. A minor can have income and tax liability of his own. A child can be declared as a dependant on his parents income taxes if they provide his support. Obviously, in this case they do not.
(EDIT - thinking about this later, I think he can still be claimed as a dependant, since he still lives in their home and as a family member they provide for his housing, food, clothing, etc. But this should be coming out of their income as his managers, not from his portion of his earnings from his tour.)

A minor files taxes of his own if his income is above a certain level, which Aaron's would be.

If you look at the tax lien it comes from the IRS Small Business/Self Employed division.

As the managers of Aaron Carter's business, they were responsible for making sure that his taxes were filed on a timely basis, that his business kept adequate records of income and expenses and that his bills associated with that business were paid.

They failed miserably on all 3 of those.

This is different than a 16 year old who works at McDonalds and gets a paycheck every week. In that case, the employer deducts a portion of the paycheck that is a close estimate of what the employee is expected to owe for that weeks wages at the end of the year. They deduct for Federal, State and local taxes if applicable. The employer then pays that amount to the tax agency and at the end of the year, the employee files a tax return and the difference between what they paid and what they owe is how much they get refunded or how much they have to pay.

In a business every expense associated with producing income is allowed as a deduction. This includes the managers fees, the bus driver, the wardrobe person, the dancers, every assistant, every meal, every costume, every gallon of gas, every hotel, every tip, every roll of toilet paper. You have to keep records for everything. And every 3 months you must estimate and PAY that portion of what your tax liablity will be after all the deductions. A business only pays tax on PROFIT, which is what's left of the income after deducting all the expenses. That's different than a individual who pays tax on INCOME minus a few allowed deductions.

I would have thought that they would have hired an accountant or business manager to oversee these things so that they could manage the actual touring and travelling. If a business manager who was an employee did this to Aaron, he/she should be fired. Maybe they had one and stopped paying him/her.

Because that's what you do when you don't want anyone to see how you are bleeding your child's bank accounts dry.....you get rid of the accountant.

Disgusted and angry,

Sue J.

[Kita]

Thank you, Sue J. :)

I didn't know exactly how it all worked out...but I knew that Aaron was ultimately responsible. Thanks for pointing out the legalities of it.

[Sez]

Where I live if you get one of these you can't leave the country. And yes unless they had a really bad acountant / business manager, it is obvious that they were dealing with his money on their own. Both parents need to be dealt with one is just as much to blame as the other. Once again amazes me that Nick has manged to keep his fiances and taxes sorted, before this mess I would of presumed that his parents were handling his as well. But hopefully he has a reasonably trained accountant.

[fricks_lover]

Originally posted by khabn43
It looks like Nick has Angel in those pics posted in the BSB forum I wonder where Aaron is right now

What pics?

[BSBrockmyworld]

Originally posted by fricks_lover
What pics?

http://www.i-belong.net/stuff/

but those were taken 10/02/2003 they're originaly from this site: http://www.imlimages.gr/fotoweb/edgrid.fwx?position=2&archiveId=5001&columns=4&rows=2&sorting=ModifiedTimeAsc&search=Nick%20and%20Carter

[heythere05]

remember aaron is a minor therefore an adult would be dealing with his money ......


And doesnt it make Bob think his new girlfriend might not like him for him and she has a daughter? hmmmm ...
I know nick was asked about it and said no comment very harshly too... but in a nice manner

[BSBrockmyworld]

Originally posted by heythere05

And doesnt it make Bob think his new girlfriend might not like him for him and she has a daughter? hmmmm ...
I know nick was asked about it and said no comment very harshly too... but in a nice manner

probably everyone but Bob thought of that, I hope he heard of prenup

when was Nick asked about it? I couldn't imagine leaving on the same property with my dad's fiancee so soon and on top of it all dealing with a little kid

[cloud9]

I know when BSB were on tour, they had special tour accountants who would dole out money to them and oversee all the other stuff SueJ mentions. It appears that the Carters took this all on themselves for Aaron's career, or, as someone else mentioned, possibly had an accountant and then got rid of that person. If they have had an accountant any time recently (i.e., during the period of time for which Aaron owes the IRS) then that person was clearly inept.

And Double Edge Sword, Jane's mention of a book made me cringe too. It's so obviously a blatant attempt at getting cash at the expense of the family. I remember John Norris asking Nick in an MTV interview about the problems that he had about his mother's first book about him, and John said something like "I guess we can assume that there won't be any more books soon" and Nick replied with a very emphatic "No". Gotta wonder what he thinks about the family book, if it ever happens.

[Leezard]

Originally posted by heythere05
And doesnt it make Bob think his new girlfriend might not like him for him and she has a daughter? hmmmm ...
I know nick was asked about it and said no comment very harshly too... but in a nice manner

He may have said that because it's really no one's business. In reality he shouldn't have even been asked about it...imo.

[FrackAttackGirl]

Originally posted by Leezard
He may have said that because it's really no one's business. In reality he shouldn't have even been asked about it...imo.

I completely agree. The bottom line is that everyone deserves to be happy in private...

but the whole IRS thing...wrong, completely wrong. *kicks both parents* Theres only so long you can play innocent!

[heythere05]

friend of his asked him and he wasnt happy bout dad

[Leezard]

Well that's his and Bob's business, not ours... Bob's a grown man and while he has an obligation to his children he also should be allowed to live his life without question as long as he's not harming anyone physically, mentally or any other way.

[AarBearCutie]

OMGosh... Thats horrible. Thats so bad that this has to happen. Its weird b/c Aaron makes so much money with tours and merchandise and he works his butt off. Its like why wouldnt he pay his taxes. But its his mom and dads fault. They didnt manage the money right. I wish that Aaron wasnt going through this. It's so sad.... It brings a tear to my eye b/c hes too sweet to go through this. No one should go through this.

Kayla
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AarBearsFanZone/

[OcBaybee]

wow remember this anyone?

[Luv 4 Wil Heuser]

haha.....bringing back the old school....:p

[Aaronsbamaangel7]

Oh lord.

[XDaysofmylifeX]

lmao..I need to go to sleep..I thought Kita just posted this..and I saw a few names..with no data under thier name..and I was like wtf..lol

I just notice when this was first posted.

[OcBaybee]

lol yea

[frackzbrozgal]

whats an irs lein?

[OcBaybee]

its basically a lawsuit against a person for not paying their taxes.. but don't worry this is such old news. look at the date it was first posted.

[frackzbrozgal]

yea i saw lol.

[OcBaybee]

lol okay :)

[Dreamer317x]

that is just sad.maybe he didn't have the money.

[Dreamer317x]

maybe someone since we are all talking about this. should post the link..

[OcBaybee]

its old news, i doubt anyone can find the link anymore.. and also he had the money then.. trust me.

[Corneycourt812]

Brandy, how did you get this? I thought you can't get post that were posted after they get moved beyound the 11 page mark. How did you get this b/c its from 2 years ago?

[CamoBratDragon]

it goes farther back than 11 pages... you can go back like 70 pages(thats about as far back as i've gotten lol my attention wandered after that...)...

and daaaaaaaang, this is OLD. lol i almost thought this was news til i saw the date of the first post.

[sa130997]

I just looked at Monroe County Clerk's site and it said that Aaron was released of the lein in January.

[Corneycourt812]

it goes farther back than 11 pages... you can go back like 70 pages(thats about as far back as i've gotten lol my attention wandered after that...)...

and daaaaaaaang, this is OLD. lol i almost thought this was news til i saw the date of the first post.

Thanks. I guess my attention span is only 11 pages. I must have just given up,forgotten, and then thought thats only how far it goes back.

[alexlovesaaron5]

Aww poor Aaron, I so wish I had enough money for him..I have 500 dollars saved up..I'd give it to him!!

[OcBaybee]

laurie.. no offense but can't you read? And see how old this is? He had the money then. Thats when he was "huge" or whatever you wanna call it. And he was released from it so its all good. its just old.

[ashangel210]

What the frickin hell is this thread doing here again? Good Gawd. Has it really gotten that boring around here?:zzz:

[OcBaybee]

yes it has..me and mel were reading old threads.. and brought one back from the past.. hahaha

[ashangel210]

^O ok. Sweet.:cool:

[alexlovesaaron5]

laurie.. no offense but can't you read? And see how old this is? He had the money then. Thats when he was "huge" or whatever you wanna call it. And he was released from it so its all good. its just old.

okay forgive me...I'm a f**king dumb ass! I don't know anything...okay! :cry:

[OcBaybee]

Laurie I never said that you were a dumbarse and that you didn't know anything. Just people need to read and look at everything before posting.

[alexlovesaaron5]

okay....I'm sorry..I was not in a good mood yesterday but hey I tend to read things super fast and they don't all comprehend very well...but I agree with ya..

[NiCkFaN]

The ironic thing is the amount of money Aaron owes the IRS is roughly the same amount as the value of the Bentley Micheal Jackson gave him for this birthday [worth $329,000 according to ET]. He could always sell it to pay his taxes, and have some left over! ;)

But seriously, poor Aaron. He is stuck in the middle of all of this. A 16-year-old shouldn't have to deal with this stuff.

No way that bentley isnt worth that much plus i recall that aaron dosnt have that anymore or he didnt take it in the first place.

obviouslly a fault on janes side bcoz jane was in charge of the finance in that time...was she not?

So aaron could get practically everything taken from him to make up for the taxes he owes. This is really bad.

[Kita]

Wow, dude...I came over and saw my name on a thread over here and was like, "Whoa. I don't remember this."

Nice.

[OcBaybee]

No way that bentley isnt worth that much plus i recall that aaron dosnt have that anymore or he didnt take it in the first place.

obviouslly a fault on janes side bcoz jane was in charge of the finance in that time...was she not?

So aaron could get practically everything taken from him to make up for the taxes he owes. This is really bad.

THIS is OLD NEWS DONT WORRY ABOUT IT!

[NiCkFaN]

who bumped this thread then?

And even if its old news money dosnt expire. All im saying is that if this tax hasnt been taken care of already its not gunna go away. You watched 20/20 the family isnt broke they are extended is more like it.

Ha

[OcBaybee]

and someone already updated it and said that it was taken care of, so we don't have to worry about it.

[Kita]

who bumped this thread then?

And even if its old news money dosnt expire. All im saying is that if this tax hasnt been taken care of already its not gunna go away. You watched 20/20 the family isnt broke they are extended is more like it.

HaThe lien has been removed, which means it's been taken care of.

[Ocean_Serenity]

Hey I have a question for all of you what is the minium you have to make a year in order to pay taxes? Cause I know I am under 18 but still I work and I am really confused about that whole thing

[OcBaybee]

i think its 7000.. im not sure.

[NiCkFaN]

depends where your from. Do you work full time or part time?