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Terrence Jamal
Jan 12th, 2004, 07:10 PM
Who do you think the killer is? I have 3 very strong theories floating in my head... What do ya'll think? They will reveal the killer on Jan 28th or 29th... Whichever date is the Wednesday... Yes, I said Wednesday!
Fly_Chiquita
Jan 12th, 2004, 10:43 PM
HI TJ!!! YAY @ DOOL threads!!
Anyways i really dont know who it is...i will be so so so so so so so so so so so so mad if it turns out to be Marlena as HAttie Adams though. That is just too dumb for me. I also do NOT want it to be Sami. I wouldnt mid it being Lexi though....
Im soooo excited for the 28th. I have an ood feeling though that somehow it will turn out that the person tehy show us isnt really the killer or something....i dont know. Ideas??
UDontNeed2Know
Jan 13th, 2004, 05:44 AM
I heard that the true killer won't be revealed until the middle of the year. And that apparently Tony, Hope, and Alice Horton will also be killed before then. But I also did hear it was Hattie. You know how Days can't finish up a story in less than a year. I am sure this will continue for some time.
Terrence Jamal
Jan 13th, 2004, 09:38 AM
OK... Here are my three theories...
Ok, you already know my theory of Marlena not being Marlena… Over the past few weeks, and now after Roman’s death she has not been acting like herself. She is taking Roman’s death a little TOO hard. I understand that they were married in the past, but little comments that she makes still calling Roman her husband really sticks out to me. If you remember while Hattie was in town, she had a big crush on Roman. When the plan fell into place for her to take over Marlena’s life, her first course of action was to dump John, and to get with Roman.
Even though I really like that idea, it is too reminiscent of the whole Kristen/Susan/Penelope storyline that after a while got too out of hand. Marlena’s return from Cleveland was suspect b/c remember she came in wearing all black creeping up on John while he was in the bathroom. And the whole thing with the killer sneaking into her office window up on like the 30th floor at just the right moment was a little too contrived for me. Who else would know to do all that but Marlena?
Next… I’m not sure if I told this theory here or not. But I don’t believe Cassie is dead. I don’t believe she is dead for the simple reason that we did not see a funeral (that little ash spreading thing with Mimi was bogus IMO), her ghost has not come back to talk to someone, and thirdly, the last time I checked, her name was still listed in the show’s credits. Meanwhile Jack and Caroline’s name has been out for a while now. The night Rex was in jail Shawn D thought he asked Cassie to kill someone so he would look innocent, I don’t think that is what he asked her to do. I think he asked her to fake her death so it would throw the implication off of himself.
What would this solve you ask? Remember that night where the killer was running around haphazardly through Salem Place? I don’t believe that was the killer. In the past (with the exception of Hope) the killer only attacked people he/she had full intention of killing. However this night, he/she was running wild taking stabs at anyone they could. The killer has had precise accuracy to date, but this night they kept missing, and kept failing to hit their mark. Then Rex grabbed them, and just so happens they got away. But in the process, this cleared Rex’s name as a possible suspect, and don’t forget the person was shot. No one in Salem has shown visible signs of any gunshot wounds. Which means that the person that was shot is not a person that we see on screen.
I’m not saying Cassie is the killer by any means. I’m saying when the time is right she pretends to be the person stalking around in all black when it is convenient for Rex to be seen in the same proximity. Rex is a computer genius so he could have easily set up Tony to receive those PDA’s in a plight to take up the Brady name and fully denounce the Dimera’s. You say but Rex was the first suspect, but we put him out of mind. That would be what JER would LOVE! To have u be so sure that the killer is NOT them, and then BOOM it turns out it really was them all along.
Lastly… The killer is Celeste. Riddle me this Batman… (lol) In the past the killer has either killed, or threatened to kill people who could possibly implicate who the real killer was. However all of Salem knows of Celete’s visions and constant prophesies, but she has not encountered the killer at all. She should have been a target a LONG time ago. She always manages to know too much. She knows the killer’s next move long before it actually happens. Ok, so why are the ghosts coming to her as a friend? Maybe her powers can be used to reverse the effects of the spiritual realm so they think that she is a light of good instead of a light of evil.
What if Stefano is behind it. Celeste/Frankie was a LOYAL servant to him. He could have set this in motion YEARS ago to occur while he is long gone so he does not look suspicious. So this makes Celeste unaware of the killings she has done. Remember back in the day when John thought he was a priest, and he put his hand in his hand print outside of the church and all his old memories came flooding back? Remember when Hope looked at that painting of Princess Gina and all her old memories as Gina came flooding back? Now Celeste touches the killer’s mask and the memories come flooding back. As for Tony, I think he is involved. He knows far too much. Those little calls he gets from Stefano could be check up calls to see if everything is going according to plan. Tony could have sent those messages from the PDA’s to the cops. Tony could have been there at Tuscany to make sure Celeste went through with the murder, or to plant some evidence that would finger someone else.
I didn’t want to say it, but it is already said earlier in this thread, that we know Tony is going to die next. What if Stefano is going to have Celeste kill Tony to either save the Dimera name and to clear it of the crimes, or he is going to sacrifice him b/c he got to sloppy and almost got caught with his hands dirty. That little chanting séance thing Tony was having a few weeks ago could have been either reversing the spirits (remember Caroline doing the Harlem Shake in her coffin) or triggering something in Celeste’s mind to prepare herself to kill Roman.
Whatever the outcome, I think it’s far too suspicious that the killer has not attacked, or even threatened Celeste yet, when he did with the others. I can see Maggie letting Celeste in the house and having to tell her that she is on AA, and no longer drinks, and I can see Caroline talking to her and giving the soda bread to give to Bo. But why you ask? I got a motive as well… Tony hated Abe. He felt Abe was causing a rift between him and his daughter Lexie. He wanted Lexie to be with Tony in the Dimera mansion so he could keep a close eye on her. So rather than try to talk her into divorcing Abe, he does the next best thing, and has him killed. Then the remaining murders just had a domino snowballing effect to keep the killer’s identity under wraps.
Terrence Jamal
Jan 13th, 2004, 09:40 AM
On a side note about Lexie... My cousin think that Lexie is slipping back into her old Dimera roots slowly but surely. She thinks that she is lying to Jennifer to get her to terminate the pregnancy simply becasue she is jealous of her, and the baby... What do ya'll think about that?
Terrence Jamal
Jan 13th, 2004, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by UDontNeed2Know
I heard that the true killer won't be revealed until the middle of the year. And that apparently Tony, Hope, and Alice Horton will also be killed before then. But I also did hear it was Hattie. You know how Days can't finish up a story in less than a year. I am sure this will continue for some time.
Yeah I heard this storyline will run until next Christmas... But I have to call you on something. They can't kill of Alice or Mickey simply b/c they have lifetime contracts with the show. The only way they can kill them is if they quit, or agreed to leave the show for the sake of this storyline. I can't see her doing that. I can't see her build up this huge amount of respect on the show simply to go out at the hands of a killer. Also, yeah, we know Tony is going to die next. After that there will be three of four more deaths to follow and I think Hope will be one of them. I really hope not, b/c I LOOOOOOOVE HOPE! That is a beautiful woman!! I'd rather see Marlena go and leave Hope. They can kill off all the women on the show, but leave my top three. Hope, Celeste, and Lexie. Then they can call it the Beautiful Trio... I'd watch everyday just to see them... :D
But it would be like JER to make us think we know who the killer is to have it turn out it was not them all along. DANG!! lol... I heard that the cast was told if you tellw ho the killer is, or even talk about it anywhere before Jan 28th you will be fired on the spot...
UDontNeed2Know
Jan 13th, 2004, 10:26 AM
I heard that Alice has quit. She didnt like what the new writers are doing with the killings and how they are so gruesome so she decided that now is a good time to leave. I personally think that it would be really bad for her to be killed off since she has been there for so long but I hear she is leaving. And I heard that Hope will def be killed off. I hope that isnt true also but from everything and everyone I have heard it from, it seems to be true. But this is a soap opera. You know 2 years from now someone can come back from the dead.
Trinity3
Jan 13th, 2004, 11:48 AM
Wow TJ! What a post! Anyway, I'm a Days fan from way back in the day but had to stop watching it b/c I work. Timer record my VCR you say? Ah, to make a long story short--I am gonna lock myself in my house some weekend and learn how to get it to work I swear! LOL
Anyway, I was off during Christmas and New Year's week and I caught Days. I thought it was pretty obvious it was Marlena. Who is Hattie? Is she Marlena's evil twin sister? Then it was her. Marlena's too virtuous to do anything so evil. Even if she's been to hell and back. She was acting all weird at Roman and Kate's wedding. And, although you seem to be able to cross Salem in .02 seconds on that show, she did seem to be out of the room/in the room at suspicious times.
I don't think it can be Celeste b/c she keeps seeing premonitions of the next murder. Lexie is still beautiful but dumb as a post. How can she be a doctor fer goodness sake?
It was Hattie if she is Marlena's evil twin. That way, they can tag Marlena, she can go to prison, get the death penalty, get the gas chamber and they can stop it just in time. No wait, Sammy already did that.
Terrence Jamal
Jan 13th, 2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Trinity3
Wow TJ! What a post! Anyway, I'm a Days fan from way back in the day but had to stop watching it b/c I work. Timer record my VCR you say? Ah, to make a long story short--I am gonna lock myself in my house some weekend and learn how to get it to work I swear! LOL
Do it! You can't miss Days anymore! It's getting REALLY good these past few weeks/months.
Originally posted by Trinity3
Anyway, I was off during Christmas and New Year's week and I caught Days. I thought it was pretty obvious it was Marlena. Who is Hattie? Is she Marlena's evil twin sister? Then it was her. Marlena's too virtuous to do anything so evil. Even if she's been to hell and back. She was acting all weird at Roman and Kate's wedding. And, although you seem to be able to cross Salem in .02 seconds on that show, she did seem to be out of the room/in the room at suspicious times.
Marlena had a twin sister named Samatha way back in the day. But she was accidently killed by the Salem Strangler who thought she was Marlena. Hattie is a woman that Rolf found and gave plastic surgery to so she would look just like Marlena. The plan was to kidnap Marlena, and put Hattie in her place so by the time anyone found anything out, Marlena would have been long gone. But over the course of time Rolf died, and Hattie just fell into oblivion...
Originally posted by Trinity3
I don't think it can be Celeste b/c she keeps seeing premonitions of the next murder. Lexie is still beautiful but dumb as a post. How can she be a doctor fer goodness sake?
I just find Celeste fishy becasue the killer has not done anything to her yet. She has been seeing her visions back before Abe was murdered. Here we are six murders later she is still having visions, and still has not been threatned or attacked. As far as Lexie, I agree they have dumbed her down, and faded her out in recent weeks. I would have LOVED if Abe's death made her snap, and threw her into the Dimera darkside and she made that slow turn like Kristen. Also, how did Abe die on Tuesday, but she back at work like nothing happened on Wednesday? Dang, can she mourn a little bit?
Originally posted by Trinity3
It was Hattie if she is Marlena's evil twin. That way, they can tag Marlena, she can go to prison, get the death penalty, get the gas chamber and they can stop it just in time. No wait, Sammy already did that.
...so did John... lol
If Hattie is the killer then I see this happening. John will find out it is Hattie, or he catches her about to kill someone, or after just killing someone. He is in shock, and Hattie comes him about to kill him, and he either shoots her, or kills her in some way. Everyone thinks he killed Marlena (making the premonition come true) Then during the autopsy we find that it was not Marlena at all, and then begins the new storyline of trying to find the real Marlena.
Terrence Jamal
Jan 13th, 2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by UDontNeed2Know
I heard that Alice has quit. She didnt like what the new writers are doing with the killings and how they are so gruesome so she decided that now is a good time to leave. I personally think that it would be really bad for her to be killed off since she has been there for so long but I hear she is leaving. And I heard that Hope will def be killed off. I hope that isnt true also but from everything and everyone I have heard it from, it seems to be true. But this is a soap opera. You know 2 years from now someone can come back from the dead.
Woooooow!!! I can't believe that Alice would quit, and allow her character to be killed like that?!?! If that is true, her logic doesn't make any sense. She is against the violence, and the gruesomness of the show, so she quits only to allow her character to fall victim to the very thing she is against. That doesn't make any sense on her part. But an article I read said the last death will make everyone hate JER even more. If he kills off Hope, I will personally write my congressman to complain... lol...
UDontNeed2Know
Jan 13th, 2004, 05:58 PM
Stupid question....could someone please tell me what JER stands for?
Oh and I was told that even though Alice will die, it might be from a heart attack or something. Maybe not by the killer...we will see.
Terrence Jamal
Jan 13th, 2004, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by UDontNeed2Know
Stupid question....could someone please tell me what JER stands for?
Oh and I was told that even though Alice will die, it might be from a heart attack or something. Maybe not by the killer...we will see.
If she was going to quit I can get with a death by natural circumstances better than at the hands of the killer. It's too bad tho. I really hope it does not happen, and she lives out her role as the show's central figure...
P.S. JER are the intitals of the show's head writer James E. Riley. It wasn't a stupid question... I just assumed people knew that bit of lingo, but not everyone does...
Fly_Chiquita
Jan 15th, 2004, 09:43 PM
OK sorry to bump this but im interested in hearing theories...
1. With the Cassie thing, I am also somewhat inclinced to believe that she is still alive as the no funeral/stupid ash thing/no ghost thing tends to point to. But I also read somewhere that JER was mad at her b/c she let it leak too early that she was fired so he was pissed and thats why she hasn't come back??
2. The Rex thing--I am also sort of thinking it could be Rex as the killer, but the thing i have a problem with is that one murder, i believe Cassie's, he was bangin Mimi when it happened....although I guess if Cassie had faked her own death, that takes care of that one...becasue I guess technically he has no alabi for the other murders, and he was at Roman and Kate's wedding.
3. I seriously don't know who it is....I can see Celeste, but im gonna be soooooooooo mad if its stupid Hattie. I keep getting the feeling that its gonna be that, with John coming to the rescue and "killing marlena" as Celeste predicted, only he'll really be killing Tony. The only problem I have w/ Marlena being the killer is that if it was her, why would she help get Tony off? Wouldnt it be beneficial to her to have him locked up for the killings? I dont know im confused....
Good point about the gunshot thing though....
NeeCee
Jan 15th, 2004, 10:54 PM
This show confuses me!
It doesnt help that i only get to see it once and awhile, but i have no idea who the killer is!
Minnie
Jan 16th, 2004, 08:33 AM
Frankly, I think it's Phillip. He's never around when the murders occur.
I started getting suspicious when Shawn told Phillip that Cassie was his sister, after she fell out of the pinanta. Since, Phillip and Cassie were such good friends, he had no reaction to all at her death. I just found it odd.
But then again, I keep remembering that he was at the police station when Maggie was getting whacked.
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