The Boston Red Sox

[Venisenvy]

Today begins the year in which they will break the curse. They have a better team than last year, one with much more depth. So take a seat back and enjoy the ride because today is the real beginning of the season. Not only will they start it but end it as world champs.

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[db44]

Yeah, wonderful start for the Sox... I love how the AOL crew wrote it up: "the Red Sox never recovered in falling behind the New York Yankees (1-1) in the AL East games-back column for the first time this season." :p

Pedro isn't pitching like Pedro. His speed's down and last night he was wild. The Sox have more depth if he's pitching well. If he's truly lost it, or doesn't get "it" back on a regular basis, they will be the same team with one ace and a bunch of mediocre pitchers.

In the field, Damon's still there, but how many of last years heroes stayed? Nomar is out 3 weeks at least, and he's been trampled by Sox management. Nixon's out. Manny is still there, and he too was kinda shafted this off-season. Usually the disorganization among the players starts late in the season. This year there might not be any harmony in the clubhouse at all. Plus tonight's Pedro start makes me feel more assured in the idea that Schilling and Pedro will be an issue unto itself. Pedro will not take being second fiddle well at all. Personally, I'm surprised Francona put the ball in his hands tonight.

[Venisenvy]

Pedro was definetly a bit wild last night but theres a lot of things that could cause that. It was cold, there was a lot of wind etc... I think we all know that location is a lot more important than speed.

Pitched for 6 innings
5 K's
ERA: 3
WHIP 1.33

Our biggest problem in this game is that we kept leaving people stranded on base. I think pedro is definetly still an Ace. Its only the first game and the Sox will get their revenge on tuesday.

[db44]

He's hit 89... Has he hit 90? Here at work they say "barely." Location may be important, but if his fastball isn't jumping the way it was, batters will be jumping on him.

One of my co-workers pointed out as well that even in October, he either had location or speed. Not both. He's a Red Sox fan and knows the game as well as I do.

Don't forget, batters also had to face the wind and cold as well. Yes it will have more of an effect on a pitcher, but the wind was also blowing pop-ups all over the place. Are you sure without that wind blowing in that there wouldn't have been any more home runs off of Pedro?

Batters are often slow in April. Neither pitcher nor batter has hit their stride, so for all the excuses for Pedro, they are the same for the batters.

I throw this out there, not believing it but just because of the timing: Note he loses his pitching strength during the steroids scare. He's never been bulked out so no I don't believe it, but the irony is there.

[cherrysodamint]

^^^steriods??? speaking of dope....

[Venisenvy]

Schilling wins, Lowe wins

And on the AL east we are #1 YES!!!!!....lol...hey a lead over the yankees is a lead no matter how early in comes.

[db44]

So, Luis, how is it down there? :p

[Venisenvy]

It feels great and don't get too comfortable cause remember you are only keeping it warm for us. :p

[Luckycharm]

Go Red Sox!

[Venisenvy]

Any question about Pedro should have been answered today, I believe he was dominant and he is definetly still an Ace.

And we are back on TOP baby, 3 way tie for first and the poor Yanks are in 4th :p

[cherrysodamint]

Easter walk off...once again. Just think what will happen when the likes of Garciaparra, Nixon return to the lineup...

[Venisenvy]

I can't wait and the red sox are doing a good job without them so when they come back they will really be blowing things up. Ortiz is like a better version of Mo Vaughn.

[db44]

I guess those questions about Pedro have been answered.

7ER in 5.... And this was in his avoid the Yankees start.

[Venisenvy]

This wasn't done to avoid his yankees start it was done so Francona could place the lineup in the way he has always wanted Pedro, Wakefield, Schilling. Pedro should pitch in the next series. And i wont make excuses Pedro was horrible last night but i do not believe that means the questions have been answered people have off days, and off weeks but they come back. I think all this negative press since the end of the season has gotten to him he needs to try to forget about all the critics etc... and he should improve.

[princessKT]

We'll see what happens tonight. :D

[db44]

Looing at it from a Yankee perspective, I do beleive it's an attempt to keep Pedro away from the Yanks.

There are a number of instances where the Sox rotation has changed to let Pedro play/not play against the Yanks. So it will remain a question to us down here.

Did he at least stay long enough last night for the press to ask him about last night's game and the series? :o

[Venisenvy]

WOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Now that is what i call a game.

A 4 run 1st inning with 2 home runs, another home run later on. And Wakefield did an awsome job.

This also definetly helped me in the fantasy league.

[Venisenvy]

Red Sox 5, Yankees 2 one more W for the Sox.

I guess if people think Pedro might be done that they must have already dug a grave for Mussina.

A great showing for Schilling, 11 pitches, 8 SO, and Jeter striked out 3 times.

[princessKT]

Our pitching sucks. :mad:

[db44]

Not yet on Moose, but it's heading that way.

Moose had some decent starts in the spring. The questions about Musina don't reach as far back as those about Pedro (as in his last five starts of '03), and Moose, as annoying as it has been, whines about having to be in his groove. Japan screwed that up. So, no, no grave yet. But as I said, the questioning eyes are looking at him more and more.

[Candy's Boy]

2 OF 3 for the Red Sox :D Cool.

With Atlanta sweeping the World Champs I would
say the Braves & Red Sox are on their way baby!!

[stephj24]

May I remind all those in Red Sox nation that it's only April, and we have (let's just say) a "few" more games to go with this season.

Though, if the Yankees keep having poor pitching and A-Rod not hitting, things could get ugly in da Bronx for us.

~Steph

[Candy's Boy]

Originally posted by stephj24
things could get ugly in da Bronx for us.

~Steph

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[Venisenvy]

And the Red Sox take the series. That was a great game and a very nice victory and once again the Red Sox prove why they are the better team.

[stephj24]

Can't wait to be at the Stadium next weekend. :-D

[princessKT]

Originally posted by stephj24
Can't wait to be at the Stadium next weekend. :-D

Ditto! :D Those fools are going down..

Meanwhile, I guess Shef was afraid to go near the walls in the outfield because the Boston fans were SPITTING on him. Nothing but class..

[db44]

I love how the Pats won the Super Bowl this year, but all they could chant were "Yankees suck!"

I also love seeing Luis get his hopes up... I've seen such confidence so many times before, and seen it all come crashing down in a matter of a late-season meltdown.

I believe the Sox were SI's pick? Just another curse to contend with.

[princessKT]

Exactly, on Friday Fox kept saying "6 or 7 months ago today the Sox lost, and now they've won.." But who cares about winning these games? When it comes to the important ones, they choke.

[Venisenvy]

They will not choke this year. They have fixed their bullpen, they have a great closer in Foulke. Their Lineup is one of the best and I believe this will definetly get them to at least 100 wins. Red Sox will once again make the playoffs and this time they will win. This year they will not choke.

[princessKT]

Are you Miss Cleo? :cool:

[*nsyncablemom]

Originally posted by princessKT
Ditto! :D Those fools are going down..

Meanwhile, I guess Shef was afraid to go near the walls in the outfield because the Boston fans were SPITTING on him. Nothing but class..

Yes, the Boston fans are a bit brutal for me.....I would much rather see the games at Yankee stadium.....why do they need to stoop so low as to wait as the Yankees board their bus just to say rude obnoxious things??? Where is the sportsmanship in the sport?? Then when one of the Yankee fans there decided to defend them, she was verbally attacked by some idiot!

[Venisenvy]

Some fans take it a bit far but we respect them. When Clemens had his last day we cheered him, when Joe Torre came back from getting treated for cancer we cheered him too.

[stephj24]

1918.

:-D

Steph

[Venisenvy]

2004 where it all begins again. After this year 1918 will be a far distant memory.

This was the Year that:


Uconn Men won the title
Uconn women wom the title
Eddie won the title
Chris Benoit won the title
Religion came back on the main stage
Bush will win re-election


And it will be the year that The Boston Red Sox win the World Series.

[princessKT]

Time to move to Canada..

[db44]

The Bruins having a 3-1 lead in the playoffs... How'd that work for ya?

We'll have to wait and see about Dubaya.

If Pedro pitches the way he has, your rotation is only 3 deep... About as good as the Yanks. The Yanks stilll have the edge in the 'pen. The Sox lineup is second to the Yankee lineup, especially whne you look at how all the bench players have been stepping up.

The one thing the Sox have which the Yanks don't is history. And in this case, that's the biggest cloud you could never want.

[Venisenvy]

Another win and a great game by Pedro, i think the critics questions have been answered.

[db44]

You said that last time, and he got rocked. :o

[Venisenvy]

Yep yankees fans are so much better in the game today they chanted A*hole, You suck D***, and a couple other words i rather not say they seem so classy.

[Venisenvy]

The Yankees got whooped really bad. 11-2 and amazing game by Lowe and Contreras is not a starting pitcher, the yankees need to figure something out because this bullpen wont get them far.

[db44]

Contreras... Major mistake there for the Yanks... Jeff Weaver all over again.

The way the game started, you thought Lowe would be the goat and Contreras might hang on a little bit. Lowe had 30-something pitches by the end of the second, but we've seen him do that before; Be slow at first then wake up in the third.

Let's just see for the Yanks how Pettitte does after he gets off the D-L. Large Rumblin's in the Bronx could be headed our way.

[princessKT]

I don't even know what to say after last night's game. At least my man Matsui came through with a homerun after I busted out the rally cap.

It's sad that the defining moments for the game for me were things like me yelling at Sox fans, instead of something good happening in the game for us. I didn't even hear Dave yell charge! So dissapointing!!!! :p

[Venisenvy]

Today's game was an extremely well played game by both teams. The Red Sox need to start scoring more runs i have noticed for the last couple games except yesterday that they leave too many men stranded when they are in scoring position. And with this win the Sox have clinched the series now its time to go for the jugular.

[stephj24]

What a heartbreak today's game was. To come back from being down 2-0 to tie the game, and then just seem to not care about the outcome, and end the game, that was a heartbreaker to me. Though, all of us in Bleacher Section 53 had a great time (especially watching A-Rod's homer go right over Kapler's glove). :-D

Steph

[Venisenvy]

And the Red Sox sweep the Yankees. Have the Pedro questions been answered now? 7 innings, 4 hits, 7 strikeouts, 0 runs, that sounds like an ace to me. 6 out of 7 for the sox, it is the beginning to a beautiful year. We finally have a complete bullpen and thats what is giving us these wins.

[princessKT]

The ghosts don't come out until later dude.. It all matters in the end, not really so much now.

[Venisenvy]

It might just be the beginning but this year there will be no ghosts.

[db44]

An ace? As much as I hate to say it, it's pitching that well against the team with the lowest BA in the AL.

And yes, I still do believe in ghosts. :p

[cherrysodamint]

Looing at it from a Yankee perspective, I do beleive it's an attempt to keep Pedro away from the Yanks.

There are a number of instances where the Sox rotation has changed to let Pedro play/not play against the Yanks. So it will remain a question to us down here.

Did he at least stay long enough last night for the press to ask him about last night's game and the series? :o

Yea, keep Pedro away from the MFY so they don't hurt themselves!!!!!

Typical NY fan....oh it's not the incredible era of our bullpen...24 2/3 innings of scoreless pitching....hey log on to some RSN site...we at least have insight into what may be wrong with the MFY, we respect them enough to give them their props when due...

Get over it...cause there will only be more to come...

Hope you have luck against the Oakland Three....lol ;)

[princessKT]

And yes, I still do believe in ghosts. :p

Meeeee too. ;)

[Sinister]

I don't believe in goats.

[princessKT]

You would once they pooped on your foot. :o

Long story, obviously. ;)

[Sinister]

Just as long as they don't poop on the Cubs! ;)

[princessKT]

hehe I agree, go Cubs. :)

[db44]

They've done their best to poop on the Cubs: They should have won even despite Bartman. Instead they kick the ball around, and they weren't even playing soccer!

[Sinister]

Hey, that was last year. Besides, we blew up that ball.. A couple of days ago I saw a shirtless fat guy in the bleachers with the words "I ate Bartman" scrolled across his man-boobs. It's a sign..

[db44]

It's a sign that Chicago fans are as lost as ever. :p

Never blow up a baseball! That's not gonna make things better, it just upsets the baseball Gods. Now the Cubbies really are cursed.

[*nsyncablemom]

An ace? As much as I hate to say it, it's pitching that well against the team with the lowest BA in the AL.
:roll:

[Sinister]

It's a sign that Chicago fans are as lost as ever. :p

Never blow up a baseball! That's not gonna make things better, it just upsets the baseball Gods. Now the Cubbies really are cursed.

SILENCE!!!!! :p

[princessKT]

There's nothing better then listening to a Cubs game outside Yankee Stadium. ;)

[db44]

You know I'm right. :devil:

[db44]

Another win and a great game by Pedro, i think the critics questions have been answered.

*cough cough*

And then did you hear his quotes a day or two ago, about not signing with Boston next year? "I feel sorry for the Red Sox fan..."

[stephj24]

"Martinez announced Friday that he plans to test the free agent market in the offseason. The three time Cy Young winner won't be very attractive to anybody picthing the way he did Saturday night."

:-D

[Venisenvy]

Im not sure if it will be bad or good to see Pedro go, i still believe he is a good pitcher who can be effective for many more years although he will have to change his style speed is no longer his strong point. But he will cost us a lot of money we might be able to do better i would much rather keep Manny than Pedro. Hopefully we can sign Manny and Nomar soon, Varitek and Lowe also need to be signed.

[db44]

Another strong outing by Mussina. I'm sure that will lay to rest all the questions about him. ;)

[RayRay53187]

Yeah, I have mixed feelings about the possibility of Pedro not coming back next year. I always thought he'd end his career in Boston, and they'd retire his # and it'd be all good. But if he ends up going to the Yankees...he will NOT get a good reception upon his return to Fenway park.

[princessKT]

I don't think Yankees fans want Pedro.

But honestly, why would he say this in the beginning of the season? It just brings strife to the team. One more nail in the coffin.

[db44]

As a Yankee fan, I don't want him here, nor do I think the Yanks would get him. I hated the idea of Boggs here, and still despise him (not true with many other Yankee fans), but was all excited about getting Clemens, and hold no ill will for him being in Houston.

Pedro has too much baggage with him, especially when it comes to the rivalry. His Ruth comment, his not always pitching against the Yanks, hitting batters (more so and seeming like with more intent than Clemens, IMHO), Zim. There's way too big of a hill to climb.

Add to it the way Pedro is pitching now, and I really can't imagine him here... No, the name I hear for the Yanks is Johnson.

[princessKT]

Randy? :eek: God bless him. That would be one kickass rivalry too, between Schilling and him..

[db44]

Especially with Randy's comments a couple of weeks ago, where he said the loss of Schilling wouldn't be that bad for the D-Backs.

Maybe he'll be on the Yanks in time for their series in Arizona. ;)

[princessKT]

That would rule. ;) But do you really think that would ever happen?

[*nsyncablemom]

if memory serves me, I don't think Boggs or Clemens received a very warm welcome from Yankee fans.....(more like Boos)....but I feel about Johnson how Dave felt about Boggs...sorry:( But I :love: the Yankees....3 months Dave, 3 months!!:D

[db44]

*dials phone*

Hello, lost and found? Hi. I'm a Red Sox fan and I'm looking for my 5 1/2 game lead over the Yankees... It was here just a second ago. :confused:

Just a minute ago, the Yanks, on a seven-game winning streak, tied the Sox for the AL East lead. :D

[Venisenvy]

Don't worry it will not last for long, i have been worried about this for a while(i think i mentioned it a couple posts back in this thread) about their leaving too many men on base. Im not sure how they will get out of it but we saw a little bit of that tonight in the 9th inning, for the most part the pitching has been very good so as long as the bats catch some fire the yanks do not have a prayer.

[princessKT]

If I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere.. it's up to you New York, New York! :D

Good times.

[Venisenvy]

Well that stint as co-first place holders went by fast.

[db44]

One loss to perhaps the best young pitching staff in the A.L.? I'll take it... When to the Sox meet the A's?

[Venisenvy]

The Sox have a 3 game series with the A's at Fenway starting may 25.

[princessKT]

Plus, we had won 8 in a row, we were bound to lose one sometime soon. We've done quite well against them, winning 5 out of 6, including sweeping them last time around.

[Venisenvy]

The Red Sox just keep on winning.

[Luckycharm]

Go Sox! :D

[*nsyncablemom]

The Red Sox just keep on winning.

......until today :roll:

[Venisenvy]

We will start winning again. im not sure Lowe is just in a really bad slump but other than that we are doing ok. The good thing is we are starting to score now all we have to do is keep the other team from scoring as much. We will win tomorrow.

[*nsyncablemom]

well, good luck with that:)
and the Yankees are doing ok as well.....;)

[*nsyncablemom]

well, your predictions are off a little;)
and I believe that Jeter is hitting a little better these days:D

[Venisenvy]

I still think Poke is better than Jeter and if you saw the end of the Red Sox game that was a fluke how in the world he made that catch i will never know. And the yankees were damn lucky they almost lost it at the end.

[*nsyncablemom]

almost doesn't count;)
nope, didn't see the end of the Sox game, so I missed that catch.....and all games are part luck, don't you agree?

[Venisenvy]

horrible loss, but i do have Guerrero in my Fantasy Baseball team so all was not lost.

[*nsyncablemom]

all losses are horrible when it is your team:-(
Yankees managed to win even after their first inning of horrible pitching......
and Jeter homers again;)

[princessKT]

F'ing Contreras. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr..

[*nsyncablemom]

F'ing Contreras. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr..

EXACTLY!

[Venisenvy]

Pedro pitched a Gem, he was on all night and his fast ball was at 93 and 94 for most of the night.

[princessKT]

I'm going to the first game in Arizona, which someone mentioned might be Contreras. After sitting in the bleachers watching such a crappy loss to the Sox, (not to mention watching him a few days ago on TV..) I told my friend that I would maybe boycott the game if he was pitching. I might set up a picket line outside the stadium and everything.

[*nsyncablemom]

LOL...good idea! All I know is he better not pitch when I go to Yankee stadium.....

[Venisenvy]

it makes you wonder when the yankees are going to give up on him. Its not even worth it to send him to the mound.

[princessKT]

It's gotta be soon.. please Torre, tell me it's true..

[princessKT]

AHHHHHH! Contreras is pitching at the game I'll be at. shdajshdhasd!

[*nsyncablemom]

stay calm.....and carry a big bat! :cool:

[princessKT]

Well, I've been proved wrong before, but I didn't think it would be by Contreras. Awesome game. There were so many Yankees fans there and so many "Let's go Yankees" chants that if I closed my eyes, for a moment, I felt like I was in New York. The only thing missing was New York, New York when we won. :)

[db44]

Yeah, Contreras seems to be coming around. The game before was better (and not just because I was there. :p), because he looked like he was about to go south again but he came back and pitched well after a poor start.

I guess I'm going to be seeing Contreras in L.A...

[*nsyncablemom]

Dave, I am counting down the days to my time in Yankee Stadium :sunny:
Don't care if it's Toronto, don't care who pitches, just as long as I am there......















and Jeter plays;)
and Bernie
and Posada....etc......

[princessKT]

This was now 2 out of the 3 games I've gone to this season where Posada hasn't played. They were also the two games where Contreras pitched. Always a sad day when I don't get to see my Georgy play. :p

[*nsyncablemom]

awww....my daughter was disappointed because she didn't get the chance to see Aaron Boone, now that we are headed for Yankee Stadium, she says Posada better be playing :mad:
I so wanted Jeter to hit a grand slam last night......there it was, right in front of him, but at least he got a base hit;)
He could have saved the HR from the earlier inning for then:D

[princessKT]

I was also upset because my "Matsui-hits-a-homer-at-every-game-I-attend" streak came to an end.

Great game last night, but there seem to still be quite a few bases-loaded opportunities where they don't do much.

[Venisenvy]

The Red Sox will once again destroy the yankees. Im sadly working, but i went out and got a DVR today which is the same thing as TIVO that way i wont miss it.

Although im only predicting a 2 out of 3. Lowe scares me a bit.

[stephj24]

6.5 game lead. :-D

[Venisenvy]

I expected a yankee win again cause well Lowe sucks. But thats all the yanks are getting.

[princessKT]

6.5 games, ouch. Revenge is sweet. :D

[db44]

I thought the Red Sox nation was telling us that Lowe was the staunch #3 starter.

[*nsyncablemom]

I expected a yankee win again cause well Lowe sucks. But thats all the yanks are getting.

that remains to be seen......

[princessKT]

One more baby! 7.5 games back.

[db44]

I expected a yankee win again cause well Lowe sucks. But thats all the yanks are getting.

:rolleyes:

Tonight will be interesting. We'll see how Pedro plays it.

[*nsyncablemom]

last night was a typical Yankee win.....let's see what Pedro does.....

[Venisenvy]

Can you feel it?

[princessKT]

Still 5.5 games back. I can feel that.

[db44]

I wonder what it feels like to be three-hit by the Blue Jays. The Yanks at least were losing to decent teams with good pitching.

Their losing doesn't concern me. They tend to have August swoons, just never as bad a the Sox do. :tongue: They got beat about a couple of years by Seattle, but then made mince meat of them in the post-season, so I'm not concerned their either. Especially when you rip the heart out of a team's closer.

[Venisenvy]

There is no shame losing to Lilly he can be a damn good pitcher.

[db44]

First time I've heard him described as such. He's having a pretty good year, true, but an ERA going into the game of 3.88? Pretty good maybe.

[Venisenvy]

Can you feel it now?

[db44]

Nope, not yet.

[*nsyncablemom]

Nope, not yet.

ditto, Dave!

[Venisenvy]

Well if you dont feel it after tonight you might want to go to a doctor.

[princessKT]

Worst. Loss. Ever.

[db44]

Eh. :p

[*nsyncablemom]

Dave, 22-0?? what was that??

[db44]

You haven't seen this before? Build up the Sox just so the fall is all that much longer... :devil:

[*nsyncablemom]

and harder :p

[princessKT]

Well, it seems as though they're going to great lengths this time to get their message across. ;)

[Venisenvy]

Can you smell what the Red Sox are cooking?

I smell it and it smells wonderful. We are only 2 1/2 games behind and it seems you might have lost a pitcher because he broke his own hand.

[stephj24]

Cooking in September and winning in October are two entirely different things. I'm glad the Red Sox are finally acting like the team that they appear to be on paper, it makes things more interesting. And, it makes revenge a little more sweeter when they choke and Boston fans are yet again heartbroken by another post season Red Sox meltdown. :-D

[*nsyncablemom]

I smell a sox loss and a great save by Texas:D (hmmm, and I think it was by a former Yankee)

[Venisenvy]

I smell a 7-0 shutout :p

[VenConmigo]

Lets go Angels!

[db44]

I'm trying to figure out why there wasn't a forfeit yesterday. The 'Rays had every opportunity to get out of Tampa on Friday as they'd already cancelled their weekend. They were negligent, they missed their game. They should pay.

[Venisenvy]

I thought that was sleezy move by the yankees myself. They stayed because they have their families there they would rather be with them than worry while in new york at some time family is more important and MLB realizes that but the evil empire does not.

[stephj24]

Of course you would think it's sleezy, you're a Boston fan. :-P

[VenConmigo]

I thought that was sleezy move by the yankees myself. They stayed because they have their families there they would rather be with them than worry while in new york at some time family is more important and MLB realizes that but the evil empire does not.

I'm not a Yankee or Red Sox fan, but I agree with you.:kiss:

[princessKT]

Game's starting right now. Bring it on. :cool:

[Venisenvy]

Games probably over for the night and we had the lead too.

Oh well, UCONN V. Boston College is on ESPN2 right now and that will be a great game and i believe UCONN might just pull off the upset.

[princessKT]

They played again for a little bit, but now the tarp's out again. We'll see what happens, they really need to play this game tonight with the weather forecast for tomorrow looking bleak.

[Venisenvy]

What an amazing game, i loved that catch by manny that was just beautiful. This is what baseball is all about and hey it doesnt hurt that we beat the yankees to take a 9-5 lead in this years regular season series(i think its 9-5).

[Luckycharm]

That was a great game! and an awesome catch by Manny!! :D

[Venisenvy]

I knew this would happen, i really hate Lowe, he is our contreras except we werent smart enough to get rid of him.

[BeMiCon88]

Gooooo Bosox!!!!

[princessKT]

4-14, not too shabby. ;) Tomorrow's the real game though. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

[*nsyncablemom]

yes, today is going to be an interesting game.....

[princessKT]

The game's started and it looks like everyone's wearing a jacket. I just opened my window and a cool breeze is coming through. (which is saying a lot since I live in Las Vegas) October's coming. :cool:

[stephj24]

Nothing like smashing Boston twice in two games and showing them who really owns the AL East. :-D

Poor Pedro. A day after saying the New York media "loves to hate him" I'm sure he'll be singing a different tune when he's thinking what he did (or didn't do) this afternoon. :-P

[*nsyncablemom]

The Yankees pitching was not too shabby this weekend:)

[db44]

The important thing here is that for all the Bostonians saying the Sox will have a cakewalk because of their pitching staff need to now realize that Lowe is reachable (which was reliatively new for the Yanks) and that the Yanks have Pedro's number (that we knew for a while)... in the 'CS, the 1-2-3 is now a 1-punch in Schilling.

[Venisenvy]

Lets see because it seems that barring some debacle the sox will win the wild car and guess what we are knocking you right out of the playoffs. Pedro will be on when we need him and lowe well im not sure aobut him he can either be pretty good or horrible.

[*nsyncablemom]

HI Dave:)

[db44]

I'd have more faith in Lowe than Pedro. When's the last time Pedro has done well against the Yanks? If you're so sure about him against the Yanks, I think you have issues.

At this point, I'd be more concerned about the Angels than the Yankees. :o If you're going to tell me the Sox didn't expend themselves to some extent, I think you have added ssues. ;) Luckily for you though that the Angels have to fight the other West contenders.

Hey Pat! ;)

[*nsyncablemom]

another missed opportunity for that DJ grand slam..... :cry:

[db44]

So, with a rotation of one solid starter, are you Sox fans still feeling it?

[*nsyncablemom]

Dave, that reminds me....yesterday I ran into another Yankees fan and he was telling me how he gets really tired of all the comments while working and wearing his NY hat and shirts. Some guy wouldn't leave him alone about it and even offered to go out to his car and get him a Boston hat. He told the guy he already had one....which had the Sox fan puzzled, til he pointed out that the Sox fans are always saying "next year"......he pointed to his hat and said "NY= Next Year" :roll:

[db44]

Ha! That's a good one.

[*nsyncablemom]

I am trying for tickets for post season that go on sale tomorrow afternoon, but what sucks is not knowing the game schedule beforehand to make arrangements! :rolleye2:

[db44]

Games 1 & 2 of the DS in NY should be during the week. Game 5, if necessary, may be on Sunday.

Games 1 & 2 of the CS (which I don't know when they go on sale) will be between 13-15 in NYC (Tuesday-Thursday). The weekend games will be in the other team's city, and then again somewhere between Tuesday and Thursday back here, again, if necessary.

This is all presuming the Sox don't catch the Yankees, which is a pretty safe bet at this point.

[*nsyncablemom]

Thanks for the info Dave, it is safe to say I won't be attending :cry:
But I will be watching it all on tv:D
Maybe the Sunday game would be the only hope, but even that would be difficult!
You will have to enjoy them enough for both of us, if you are there;)

[princessKT]

All three of us. :(

[Venisenvy]

Im still confident in pedro. Im not confident in Lowe and i can still feel it(Don't forget that Arroyo has been damn good). We are in the playoffs, we will be in the World Series and you will not.

[stephj24]

Good morning, farewell, and goodnight, Boston. Looks like you'll have to settle for the Wildcard, once again. :-D

[db44]

Most people think Francona won't have the guts to start Arroyo. Can they count on him every game if only Schilling is on?

[*nsyncablemom]

All three of us. :(

I think Dave can handle that;)

You and I can put on *seven in a row* t-shirts and watch on TV while Dave waves to us from his seat:D










Thank you Bernie :love:

[princessKT]

Sounds like a good idea ;)

[BadGirl28]

loveee the sox!

[db44]

My condolences. Was it a sudden illness or were you born that way? ;)

[Venisenvy]

I really think that if Francona does things right Schilling will be 1st, then martinez, then arroyo and D.Lowe will be the long relief.

[db44]

Right, and that sounds like a sound plan. But I'll bet he goes with Schilling, Martinez, Wakefield and Lowe.

[Venisenvy]

I guess Francona is a pretty smart man Schilling, Martinez, Arroyo, Wakefield no Lowe.

[db44]

Good for him!

Now hopefully it all blows up on him. :p

[*nsyncablemom]

:roll: :roll:

[Venisenvy]

it hasnt blown up on him yet

[stephj24]

Yet being the key word. I sense Francona will make a "Grady Little" move at some point during this postseason, after all Boston has to choke. ;-)

[VenConmigo]

:evil:

GO YANKEES or TWINS!!!

[Venisenvy]

To quote a sign in Fenway How Sweep it is!!!!!!!

[VenConmigo]

:evil:

[Venisenvy]

RED SOX WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I just have one more question, the same question i have asked for weeks: CAN YOU FEEL IT????

[princessKT]

Good luck in the WS. You're going to need it. ;)

[db44]

If the Yanks are Pedro's daddy, the Sox are Brown's.

[*nsyncablemom]

Hey Dave, see you next season at Yankee stadium:)

[Venisenvy]

Big Papi is the Yanks daddy.

So Dave can you feel it?

I guess we are playing the Cards. I must say i was praying for the Stros cause personally the Cards scare me but im still confident. I have always felt the AL team would beat whomever won the NL and the Red Sox are it.

[*nsyncablemom]

Go Cardinals!

I have not had the opportunity to see alot of Cardinal games, but from what I have seen of them lately, you should be scared;)

I believe they will win the WS, had it been the Yankees playing them, I think the outcome would have been the same.......

seems alot of Boston fans wanted it to be the Astros.....hmmm, wonder why that is :tongue:

[Venisenvy]

The Astros showed that the Cardinals are human, they are an amazing team but we can win 4 games plus we have homefield advantage which against the Cardinals will probably be the difference between us winning and them winning. I wanted the Astros because of Clemens game seven, Boston Vs. Houston and Clemens is on the mound and the Red Sox just pound him to oblivion. Ironically enough Clemens helped the Red Sox he pitched the All-star game and because of his performance we have Home Field advantage.

[db44]

Not yet I can't. If there's one other enemy to Red Sox nation, it must be the team of Gibson and Slaughter.

[MCsingit2me]

It's gonna be a good matchup! GO CARDS!! :D

[TrueB&B_BritFan]

Sox won game 1 ;)

[Venisenvy]

A great game and a bit nerve racking at times. We cannot play so sloppy the next time if we want to win this thing, we are lucky that our bats gave us the W.

[*nsyncablemom]

I thought it was the code talker that gave you the win :laugh:

[Venisenvy]

huh? I have to admit that one went right over my head...lol

[*nsyncablemom]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=1907782

[Venisenvy]

Dave feel it now? mabey a twinge at least?

[db44]

Grudgingly, a twinge.

I'm still waiting for some horrid demise.

[*nsyncablemom]

maybe the curse will follow them tomorrow night instead of the Navajo blessing :susp:

But if they do win, better hope it is in 4 games because if they go back to Boston to win it there will be no where to hide from the "celebrating fans" :rolleye2:

[db44]

What I hope is that it turns out like the Rangers: One championship and then back to the pits.

[*nsyncablemom]

:roll:

[*nsyncablemom]

it must be an omen....I just looked at the number on my pop-up blocker.......1918 :eek:

[Venisenvy]

Tonight will be a interesting game if they can get it in(weather is not the best). Pedro has had plenty of rest, we do lose 2 bats(DH and our 8th hitter will not be a factor cause our 9th is pedro...lol) So it all depends on how good supan(sp?) is. He was amazing against the Astros in game 7, but the rest of the year after 60 pitches hitters are hitting over .300 against him so it depends which Supan shows up. I guess the same will apply to pedro but i actually think we will see a great game by him.

[Venisenvy]

So i just played the game on my PS2 with MVP baseball 2004 and it was quite an interesting game.

The Red Sox bats were on fire right away scoring 3 runs in the first, 1 run in the third and 2 runs in the 4th but thats all they would get. Supan was wild all night but the bullpen did its job keeping the red sox quiet the rest of the game.

Pedro was amazing, he had around 92-94mph fastballs and he was getting the pitches he wanted. In fact he had a no hitter heading to the 7th. How in the world could you take him out. But i have no idea what it is about Pedro and the 7th it seemed Francona had made a Little mistake because all the sudden Pedro cant get anything right. All the sudden the Cardinals which could not even get a baserunner on all night had 3 runs and no outs, then finally one out, then they got a 4th run and the tying run on first. But Pedro was able to pitch his way out of it. Timlin got to work he had a 1,2,3 8th he went into the 9th and got the first 2 batters out then came in Foulke and got the last batter out Red Sox hold on for the 6-4 win.

Box Score:

Damon: 1/5
Cabrera:2/5 2 Runs 2 RBI's, 1HR, 2B
Ramirez:2/5 2 Runs 1 RBI
Ortiz: 2/4
Varitek:1/4 1 Run, 2B
Nixon: 2/4 2 RBI's
Mueller: 1/4 1 RBI
Bellhorn: 2/4 1 Run
Martinez:1/4(yep he actually got a bloop hit)

(I wont type the Cardinals one cause its too much)

But if this is accurate the Red Sox Win.

[Venisenvy]

I wasn't wrong, Pedro pitched a great game and Supan did not. This was a nice game, i loved seeing Pedro being extremely dominant but i must say i was expecting more from the Cardinals.

[Venisenvy]

Tried it in my game again today putting the same lineups and well Cardinals won 4-2.

[*nsyncablemom]

let's hope the Sox win tonight and end it before heading back to Boston.....

[MCsingit2me]

Let's go CARDS.... Let's pull a Boston and WIN THE NEXT 4!!!! :roll:

[*nsyncablemom]

I'm for that:D

[Venisenvy]

The Boston Red Sox are the WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My first post that started this thread was:

Today begins the year in which they will break the curse. They have a better team than last year, one with much more depth. So take a seat back and enjoy the ride because today is the real beginning of the season. Not only will they start it but end it as world champs.

http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/l33tn00b/Pics/PWNT.gif


What a ride it was with so many turns which i could have never expected. But the end was clear in sight from day one we were going to become world champs and while all of you doubted we did it. The Boston Red Sox have won the big one.

[TrueB&B_BritFan]

rest-in-peace Bambino Curse :wink:

[Venisenvy]

How does it feel Dave? Its almost like living in a new world, today is the beginning of a new era, the era of the Boston Red Sox.

[db44]

The NY Daily News had it best: See you in 2090! :devil:

[cherrysodamint]

It never ceases to amaze me that in the face of the greatest team comeback in the history of SPORTS resulting in never accomplished EIGHT game streak to a World Championship, that your typical ny fan's only comeback is the same old nonsense.

You dishonor the proud Yankee tradition....and you will NEVER know what we of Red Sox Nation have always experienced

BELIEF, FAITH.....and now RESURRECTION and REDEMPTION.

We are the Red Sox



AMEN

[db44]

Yeah, sure.

Nobody has died celebrating outside Yankee Stadium. None of the Red Sox provoked fights were in Yankee Stadium. What's that about being dishonorable?

[cherrysodamint]

How DARE you desecrate that young girl's loss of life to TAUNT??

utterly disgraceful



Can you read?

[db44]

What taunt? It is a valid and legitimite argument, especially here in New York. One which has been taking place here since that girl died.

We are the ones with the bad reputation. When fans threw stuff on the field in game 6 (and all it created was a mess, as nothing was harmful), all the FOX people could say was how bad New York and its fans were for that.

But look at Boston: One dead, last night there were 35 arrests and 44 people with reported injuries: 14 bad enough to require trips to the hospital. Countless items were torched and in at least one occaision a car with New York license plates was destroyed. No such riots has ever happened from a Yankee championship. Then again, we've never started a fire in a ballpark which burned down the whole area around Huntington Ave.

It has nothing to do with not winning in 86 years, so don't tell me it's because the curse has been broken. It can't be for that reason as similar riots happened when the Patriots won their last Super Bowl.

Speaking of which, a Mets fan friend of mine went to see the Pats game on Sunday and he was taunted and harrassed because he was from New York and therefore presumed a Yankee fan. Lovely.

Tell me which is disgraceful. The blatant disregard for property and life or posting a cutesy newspaper headline or story connected to that sad and sickening disregard for things.

Actually, don't. Don't bother even posting anything else. Go off and have your fun elsewhere.

[Venisenvy]

Dave the death of the girl is a tragedy and one which was not committed by fans but by the police and their own carelessness. So to blame it on Boston and the Fans is wrong. Its like blaming you when the cops in new york kill a minority in what seems pretty obviously like a racially motivate murder.

And i think you are being too easy on the Yankees fan the fact is the baseballs were dangerous and they were not only just thrown on the field but on more than one ocassion almost hit some of the Red Sox players.

The Red Sox have won, its a new era the Yankees through their greed have put upon themselves the curse of Alex Rodriguez and the era of yankee dominance is over.

I love school:
1.This morning in math class my teacher was in her Red Sox shirt all happy yelling Go Red Sox

2.My political science professor had a small slide show of pictures showing the players celebrating and with music playing in the background(We are the champions).

3.My english teacher cancelled class today so that we could all just take in the wonderful day in New England.

[princessKT]

It's one World Series. We'll see you next year.

[Venisenvy]

And im looking for it, on opening day we are getting our World Series 2004 champs banner and guess who we play that day at home. The New York Yankees, that will be such an awsome sight.

[princessKT]

It's still so hard for me to believe that they'd schedule our first matchup for opening night. That's crazy.

[stephj24]

It doesn't exactly seem right or fair, considering both teams will have just come out of Spring Training and won't be at full stregnth, something that could come back and haunt either team later on down the stretch.

[*nsyncablemom]

2 things I find sad about the most recent posts:

1 That you blame the police for trying to take control of a situation that was created by the fans

2 That teachers feel baseball is more important than education and use it as an excuse for no classes.....

[princessKT]

Oh well, at least he paid for his New England education. :p

[*nsyncablemom]

speaking of education....this came from the mouth of a Sox fan this morning....."the last world series won by the sox was 1918, it has been 86 years.....1918 plus 86 equals 2004...it was meant to be"......
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[db44]

In the article I posted in general news, one of the fans was asked about the idea of not allowing people to drink during the World Series. He said "they tried prohibition in the 1700's and it didn't work." :rolleyes:

[Venisenvy]

Its okay Dave I can understand your frustration, the world that you knew has been turned upside down and we are your papi but you will get used to it soon.

[stephj24]

Its okay Dave I can understand your frustration, the world that you knew has been turned upside down and we are your papi but you will get used to it soon.


Riiight. Boston finally manages to win a world series after 86 years and from all this talk, you'd think they'd been winning them for the past ten years straight.

When Boston has 26 World Series Championships, come talk to me. Otherwise, the Red Suxx are not even close to the level the Yankees are on.

No one's world has been turned upside down, and certainly not the Yankees. We'll be back next year. Keep dreaming about the world order being different. :-P

[*nsyncablemom]

my t-shirt says it all:

**what's the difference between dynasty and wannabes.....about 215 miles and 20 plus world championships**

[cchic1984]

The Boston Red Sox are the WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My first post that started this thread was:




What a ride it was with so many turns which i could have never expected. But the end was clear in sight from day one we were going to become world champs and while all of you doubted we did it. The Boston Red Sox have won the big one.
Sonnamabitch :cry:

[Venisenvy]

Sunday begins another journey for the Red Sox and this will end the same way as the last. The Red Sox will once again win the big one.

[Venisenvy]

The Red Sox are on track for another great year....the yankees on the other hand well lets just say they havent shown up since the ALCS.

[stephj24]

Just a slow start...they'll show up. When you've got Kevin Brown pitching and no run support, that constitutes a slow start.

[db44]

I bet you were saying the same stuff in '98 Luis. How bad did the Yanks end up that year, after a similarly horrid start?

[Layney]

The sox have won five in a row and from what I've read Steinbrenner is crapping himself.

[stephj24]

The sox have won five in a row and from what I've read Steinbrenner is crapping himself.

Steinbrenner needs to react like this more often... 3rd inning and the Yanks are winning 15-2 with my boy Tino hitting a grand slam :D

[Venisenvy]

lets not get ahead of ourselves this is TB afterall they are facing.

[stephj24]

A battle of the two basement teams in the AL East...what could be better ;)

[db44]

lets not get ahead of ourselves this is TB afterall they are facing.

Funny that nobody said that regarding Manny.

[Layney]

Funny that nobody said that regarding Manny.

Yeah well Manny got two homeruns off of Toronto yesterday so...

[Venisenvy]

Well that Yankee turn around sure lasted long.

[db44]

I missed where Toronto became a contending powerhouse. :o Although he did hit one off their top pitcher last night... In a loss.

[Layney]

Yeah that loss really sucked considering Arroyo pitched awesome and Manny's huge shot...on the other hand the Yankees lost against Tampa Bay with Randy Johnson on the mound...*cough*

[Venisenvy]

It is great to see that even without what many call our only ace and without Wells we are doing well. As for the other guys, there is so much i could say but i guess i shouldn't pour salt over such open wounds.

[Layney]

Arroyo is our ace right now*starts singing* hate to say I told you so...and there are rumors that the Yankees want him...HELL NO!

[db44]

lets not get ahead of ourselves this is TB afterall they are facing.

If we're gonna talk good-team, bad-team match-ups, how were the two teams on their West Coast road trips?

[*nsyncablemom]

speaking of Arroyo and singing.....I saw him on some show singing and he has a really good voice....I would buy that CD! :D :music:

[santiago]

i saw Arroyo at an event recently and the emcee told him the Queer Eye guys did a nice job on him. Amusingly, Bronson was not on the queer eye show. The emcee changed the subject.

[Layney]

i saw Arroyo at an event recently and the emcee told him the Queer Eye guys did a nice job on him. Amusingly, Bronson was not on the queer eye show. The emcee changed the subject.

LMAO!! That's awesome...

[db44]

I notice this Sox thread has drifted away from the Sox performance... Coincidence?

[*nsyncablemom]

:wink:

[*nsyncablemom]

let's talk about Toronto's performance....oh, and back to Arroyo, how did he perform last night;)

[db44]

You see Damon's comments last night? The Sox in his mind are now "a really bad team."

[Sinister]

Now the White Sox on the other hand...