Transfers and Spectulations

[Dreamer7]

Time to do away with that old transfer thread.

Post anything on the transfers and everything else that you like.

[Dreamer7]

Ferguson plots Gerrard move to replace Keane

Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson was reported to be considering a 20 million pound bid for Liverpool's Steven Gerrard to replace captain Roy Keane.

Keane has admitted he is unsure about whether he will see out the remaining two years of his contract at Manchester.

"You can't look too far ahead in football," said the 32-year-old Irishman who was believed to have infuriated Ferguson with his decision to come out of international retirement.

"I think as a player, you can't be looking too far ahead," Keane added.

" And in football, I think you should always expect the unexpected. I'm sitting here saying: 'I've got two years left on my contract'; many players have said that and before you know it, they're off."

And The Sun reported Ferguson wanted Gerrard, 23, to become Keane's long-term replacement.

Gerrard would be damned forever by Anfield fans if he left the club he skippers.

And Ferguson might face a battle with Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger who said he was looking for a "real gem" to bolster his league winners.

"If I can find a real gem I will make an effort," Wenger said.

http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/040428/1/3ju7q.html

[db44]

I want Dennis back in Holland!

[muffins]

I hope I don't tempt fate now but I really don't think Steven Gerrard would want to go to Manchester United. He's a Liverpudlian through and through who loves Liverpool. Rivaldo's agent has said that he has agreed terms with Bolton and Claudio Ranieri is apparently interested in a double swoop for David Beckham and Ronaldo. Michael Owen is apparently in talks with Liverpool to agree a new contract.

[Dreamer7]

Yeah Gerrard won't. It is like Gary Neville joining Liverpool right muffins?

[Dreamer7]

Well if Ranieri is sacked then the choice isn't his anymore. I think he is a nice manager and all but the tactics he uses are not very good. Will be interesting to see Rivaldo joining Bolton.

[muffins]

Yup, it would be like Neville joining Liverpool hehe.

I think Ranieri is a nice person too but I think he is a good manager. He is doing a difficult job under pressure at Chelsea. It can't be easy to try and keep happy all those players and try and give them a game when possible and with all the speculation surrounding his job. And they're still second!

[kev316]

Sol Campbell went to Arsenal from Spurs so I wouldnt say theres no chance of Gerrard going to Man U. I think he'll stay at Liverpool though.

[kev316]

Arsenal have signed Robin van Persie from Feyenoord. Apparently the guy is a bit of a loose cannon though.

Watch this thread to be dominated by Chelsea ;)

[kev316]

Man Utd say Van Nistelrooy is staying

[db44]

The Dutch invade England! ;)

Still waiting to find out about Bergkamp.

[kev316]

I think Bergkamp will be staying at Arsenal for another season. Supposedly he's been offered a play as you pay deal.

[muffins]

Yeah, good point about Sol but I'm not a Tottenham fan so I don't know if it's is exactly the same with Gerrard. I know he was popular , emphasis on the was lol!

[Dreamer7]

Van Nistelrooy is in a dangerous position if he is really at odds with Ferige, but I think Fergie cannot afford to lose him...who knows.

Chelsea is going after a couple of good players from the Italian League.

[glamour-gal]

awwwwwww, pls stay in italy!! don't go to chelsea!! ..lol..


were there any names announced???

[db44]

Over here we're hearing that Fergie may be the one in a dangerous position. If Ruud goes, will Fergie be all that safe?

[muffins]

I heard a little rumour but nothing major, not like back page news!

[muffins]

Apparently Chelsea and Juventus were in talks about Trezeguet going to Chelsea and Juventus wanted to do a direct swap...with Frank Lampard. Chelsea said no. :P

[db44]

*sigh* Dennis is back with the Gunners. I mean that is good news, but being one of my favorites, I'd have loved to see him with my favorite team... Bergkamp and O'Brien would have made me very happy indeed.

[muffins]

Paul Robinson has completed his transfer from Leeds to Tottenham and Veron has admitted some interest in Inter Milan.

[Dreamer7]

Veron to Inter Milan? LOL, dear Veron hasn't even kicked a ball on Chelsea grounds, okay j/k but yes I can see him leaving and going back to his Italian League where he plays best.

Isn't Liverpool interested in Cissie (sp?)? Also what is with Liverpool and the Thai PM buying part of the club? I am confused.

[glamour-gal]

yeah i heard this as well with the thai pm!
does anyone know more about this?? *points to muffins*

[kev316]

The Thai Prime Minister wants to buy 30% of Liverpool for £65m. I'm guessing some of that money would be made available for transfers. Speaking of Liverpool Heskey is going to Birmingham for an initial £3.5m which could go up to £6m depending on apperances. Cisse should also be moving to Pool in the summer.

[glamour-gal]

thanx for telling us, kev316!!!

[kev316]

No probs. Today Man Utd had two bids for Alan Smith for around £3.5m & £5.5m rejected

[Dreamer7]

Everton bidding for Smith for £7 m, I heard. Oooh, Smith is in demand but hmm with his short-temper on the pitch? Heh, I don't think he will be that popular among fans. ;)

[glamour-gal]

smith??? really??

[muffins]

Smith is a good player, anyone see the pitch invasion after Leeds went down? it was like they'd won something not got relegated! But the fans wanted to say godbye to him. His temper is a problem but I think perhaps with the right mnagement he might handle himself better.

The Thai PM was not the only one who wanted to buy shares in Liverpool, a Liverpool fan who is a millionaire wanted to invest around £73 millions pounds but had his offer rejected and there has been gluitches with the Thai PM deal too.

[Dreamer7]

Real Madrid sign Samuel from Roma


Real Madrid have agreed a five-year deal with Argentine defender Walter Samuel, the Primera Liga club said on its website on Thursday.
Samuel is set to join the Spanish giants on July 1 from AS Roma.


Financial terms of the signing were not disclosed but sports daily Marca said on its website Real had secured Samuel for 22 million euros ($26.22 million), beating off competition from Chelsea for the powerful 26-year-old who joined Roma from Argentina's Boca Juniors in 2000.

'We have reached an agreement in principle with Roma and with the player and we can finally announce we've signed a central defender, a priority for us for next season,' Real Madrid's sporting director-general Jorge Valdano told the club's website.

Real Madrid will end this season without a trophy despite having a squad including Brazil's Ronaldo, France's Zinedine Zidane, Portugal's Luis Figo and England's David Beckham.

Critics said the squad lacked depth and highlighted the team's weaknesses in defence.

Real Madrid President Florentino Perez pledged earlier this month to sign another of the world's leading players.

Valdano praised Samuel as a 'thoroughbred defender' and said he believed he would help develop young Madrid defenders.

'He brings quality and maturity which will help our young players feel more comfortable and play better.

'He fills an important need the team had and does so in style because he is one of the best defenders in the world.'

Samuel's wish to play for Real Madrid won through despite interest shown by other clubs, Valdano said.

'He had a special determination and made it felt throughout the negotiations. That gave us an advantage in the fight with other very important competitors who complicated the negotiations at one point. They were rather difficult days, but finally Samuel will be at Real Madrid and there's great satisfaction in the club over the news,' he said.

Valdano said Real had learnt a lot from the 2003/2004 campaign. The club had a promising start to the season but a late-season slump erased their hopes of winning the Spanish league, cup and Champions League.

'We will try to have a balanced squad to avoid the problems we suffered in the end this season,' he said.

'We are aware of the needs and we are going out right now to fill them so that next season we have more guarantees in all areas and a deeper squad that will help us survive in all competitions and reach the last two months (of the season) wth guarantees to win a trophy.'


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A good signing for Real Madrid, guess they woke up finally and realised they needed to get a good defender because their defence really sucked. I think they need another striker too, well that Morientes can return, I guess? I think Beckham should go back playing on the right side though, he is really the best in that position.

[muffins]

Yes, Morintes has only been out on loan to Monaco but I'm not sure Monaco would want to let him go!! Hehe. :P

[glamour-gal]

Smith is a good player, anyone see the pitch invasion after Leeds went down? it was like they'd won something not got relegated! But the fans wanted to say godbye to him. His temper is a problem but I think perhaps with the right mnagement he might handle himself better.

The Thai PM was not the only one who wanted to buy shares in Liverpool, a Liverpool fan who is a millionaire wanted to invest around £73 millions pounds but had his offer rejected and there has been gluitches with the Thai PM deal too.




oh really? next to the thai pm, there was a liverpool fan as well?
dunno... but somehow this topic interesstes me a lot :)

[glamour-gal]

Yes, Morintes has only been out on loan to Monaco but I'm not sure Monaco would want to let him go!! Hehe. :P




come on, monaco would be so silly to give morientes away!!!

[muffins]

Yes, they would be. I've heard a few English clubs are interested.

I've heard that Manchester United are close to signing Alan Smith.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/3723993.stm

Leeds' new manager looks set to be Keven Blackwell.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/3728657.stm

And last, but by no means least, Liverpool are reportedly going break a habit of a lifetime(they don't sack managers very often, in fact, they never do!) and sack Gerrard Houllier.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/3728657.stm

[glamour-gal]

thanx for all these links!
will have a look right now!

[Dreamer7]

It is confirmed, Liverpool has axe Gerrard Houllier. Who is going to take over?

AND

Real Madrid axe Carlos Queiroz.

Well I didn't expect it that fast from Real Madrid, damn they show no pity AT ALL. Beckham could be in a difficult position if he stays but hopefully he will be able to prove himself more.

[glamour-gal]

really???

carlos queiroz is history at real??

[Debbie]

i have my fingers crossed that Smith does sign for Man Utd.

[Dreamer7]

I see tensions arising if Man Utd get someone like Smith. Don't know if it is a good choice. We have Saha and RVN both first choice, so what if Smith comes, he will be so pissed if he doesn't get choosen and with Fergie still in charge. Like many say, his temper is a problem. He is a good enough player for Man Utd though.

[muffins]

I think Manchester United should buy defender(s). The Rio ban really hurt them and I think in places they missed David Beckham occasionally.

[kev316]

I think Smith has learned how to control his aggression. He went over 20 games (I think) without picking up a booking. Man Utd do need Smith as Solskjaer has been rumored to be on his way.

[Debbie]

man utd got Smith its going to be interesting to see how fergie can keep them all happy

http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,7-1137175,00.html

[Debbie]

Alex Ferguson was reported to be set to sign Argentina defender Gabriel Heinze from Paris St Germain for six million pounds (9 million euros/10.7 million dollars).

[kev316]

Ranieri is officially gone. Well it was coming, but still feel bad for him.

[Debbie]

I feel sorry for him as well.

[kev316]

Manager update: Mourinho goes to Chelsea while Ranieri goes back to Valencia

[muffins]

Liverpool have confirmed former Valencia coach Benitez as their new manager. I hope this works well. :)

[glamour-gal]

germany's torsten frings will join bayern munich. still rumours about michael ballack going to barcelona and oliver kahn somewhere in the premier league.

[muffins]

Apparently Steven Gerrard is considering his future at Liverpoool. I don't want Stevie to go! :(

[muffins]

Birmingham and Chelsea have agreed a fee for Gronkjaer. So, Jesper will be playing for a different blues next season. Good luck to him at Birmingham. The Thai PM has ended his interest in Liverpool.

[muffins]

Wayne Rooney has apparently been priced above £50 million!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/everton/3822981.stm
And possible even more amazing, Everton have said they would turn down a bid of that size for him! :blueeek:

[glamour-gal]

Wayne Rooney has apparently been priced above £50 million!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/everton/3822981.stm
And possible even more amazing, Everton have said they would turn down a bid of that size for him! :blueeek:



ohhh!!! :blueeek:
50 million pounds!!

[Debbie]

newspapers in the Uk are full of stories today saying Rooney will go to man Utd...we wait and see.

[glamour-gal]

newspapers in the Uk are full of stories today saying Rooney will go to man Utd...we wait and see.

really???
i read that he should join chelsea?! :rolleyes:

[Dreamer7]

If Rooney goes to Man Utd, I presume RVN/OGS is going to leave. I think Real Madrid might be after him. Raul is horrible and they need a new striker to pair with Ronaldo. I don't see why Man Utd is going to spend so much money on Rooney, definitely not £50m. Chelsea, probably. But who knows Man Utd, they can go crazy and spend like they did for Rio. Anyways I think Rooney does needs to move to a better club so that he can gain the experience and be better prepared for the World Cup, etc.

[Debbie]

dont think man Utd will pay that much they are hoping rooney will want to stay in the North west and not want to move to Chelsea..

gerrard has confirmed he is staying at Liverpool.

[muffins]

Owen has said again he'd like to stay at Liverpool. Baros has said he nearly left Liverpool this summer because Houllier was knocking his confidence but says he wants to stay now Benitez is there. Someone asked him why he hasn't scored for Liverpool like he has his country and he said "You can't score from the bench!" hehe. If Rooney leaves Everton, Everton are apparently(according to my local paper)interested in Cardiff's Robert Earnshaw. All just speculation at this point.

[muffins]

Newcastle have landed Leeds youngster, James Milner.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/3852503.stm

And Mark Viduka has passed a medical at Middlesboro.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/middlesbrough/3856645.stm

Looks like it's a summer clear out at Leeds United.

[kev316]

Cisse completes £14m move to Liverpool & Kezman's moving to Chelsea.

[muffins]

Yay! :) I will reserve judgement on that move until I see how it works but I've heard good stuff about Cisse. And reportedly Michael Owen will sign a new 2 year extension to his current Liverpool contract.

[Dreamer7]

It will be hard for Leeds to get promoted with all the players gone.

Looks like some competition for the Liverpool strikers and now without Houllier Owen may not find himself getting an automatic slelection all the time.

Man Utd said Rooney's price tag is too exensive for them.

Chelsea looks one big mess to me. Some players are wanting out...more are coming in...omg.

[kev316]

I think Crespo is going to AC Milan on loan for a season, Veron's gone on loan to Inter I think, Hasselbaink has left on a free and should be going to Celtic. Mourinho has said he wants to work with a smaller squad of around 21 players.

[muffins]

That's probably a good plan so he can pick his best team and stick with it. No offence to Ranieri of course, I really liked him.

[Dreamer7]

Baros to Real Madrid? Hmmm...I think people would prefer him to stay at Liverpool.

[Dreamer7]

Viduka joins Boro and his ex-team mate Danny Mills.
Ian Harte will be leaving for Levante, a La Liga team.

[Debbie]

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink has signed for Middlesbrough.

[Dreamer7]

Ronaldo to Spurs? :eek:

[cyane]

Hi Mi !! :D

which Ronaldo are you talking about ?? and Spurs ?? is that a team ?? :confused:

Btw you forgot my b-day !!! :P

[muffins]

Spurs are the London club Tottenham Hotspur. :) Happy birthday for whenever it was. :)

Newcastle's Gary Speed is apparently going to Bolton and Everton have admitted that Rooney's future at the club remains in the balance.

[Debbie]

Kluivert gone to Newcastle.

[muffins]

Ray Parlour has gone to Middelsboro for about £1.7 million. My dad says there is also talk of Sol Campbell leaving although I haven't heard this from anywhere else yet. If this is true then Arsenal won't have any defenders left! lol

[Dreamer7]

Eti, I am so busy these days, omg, sorry...well Happy Belated B-Day!!! Haven't visit this thread, almost missed your post. Hello! :p

I was talking about the Real (Madrid) Ronaldo, not the other one coz there is only one Ronaldo. ;)

PS. Check your PM gal.

[muffins]

Josemi has signed for Liverpool for £2 million, he's a defender from Malaga. The whole thing about Vieira and Real Madrid is still raging on. One of my dad's acquaintances who works for a newspaper(I think, something to do with the media anyway)is certain Patrick will be going. His mate also thinks that Gerrard will go to Arsenal in a year's time. I also heard a Spanish club were interested in signing Hyypia.

[muffins]

Nicky Butt has gone to Newcastle. That's all the transfer news for today, apart from that Arsene Wenger thinks Vieira will be playing for Arsenal at the start of the season.

[Dreamer7]

I heard Chelsea has spent more than the whole of the other teams in the premier league. How big is their team right now?

Also why is Man Utd fielding thier youngsters for their US tour? I heard many US fans are complaining. I wouldn't want to pay so much to see these players either.

Oh and I see a trend first Beckham, now Butt....are they leaving in alphabetical order? Haha. Hmm seeing Butt in a toon shirt. :scratch:

[muffins]

Butt will do a good job for Newcastle, just the sort of player the need I think. :)

About playing youngsters on pre-season tours, Arsenal fielded a, in part, young side against an Argentinian team. I didn't see it all and I don't even know the final score but Arsenal weren't playing that well. The fans were quite loud though, mainly singing about Vieira.

[muffins]

I didn't really want to make a new thread about this so I'll class it under a transfer kind of thing. Mark Palios(head of FA)has resigned. There has recently been a debacle about Sven having an affair with a secretary at the FA, he denied it but then it emerged they did and Sven is accused of lying to the FA. It is also alleged this secretary slept with Mark Palios too. Today it emerged that someone at the FA tried to keep Mark Palios' name out of it in return for this man giving a lot of details about the Sven affair. I wonder who will replace Palios.

[Dreamer7]

OMG!!! Is this for real? Paul Scholes quit international football i.e England?!?! Why, I don't understand at all.

[muffins]

Yes, it's for real. He says he has been considering it for a while and he and his family have decided that Euro 2004 should be his last England appearance. I think he wants to concentrate on his club career and critics are saying that will give him more years to play footballwithout international pressures.

Real Madrid have apparently made a bid of £16.5 million for Arsenal's Patrick Vieira.

[muffins]

Reports increasingly seem to be suggesting that Vieira will go to RReal Madrid for around £23 million pounds, there doesn't appear to be an official comment from either camp yet. Arsenal are supposed to be interested in Maniche to replace Patrick.

[muffins]

Arsenal are supposed to be making a move for Michael Carrick and Arsene Wenger has said again that he thinks Patrick Vieira will be playing for Arsenal next season. Also, Mutu's loan move to Juventus has fallen through.

[Dreamer7]

Danny Murphy has moved to Charlton.

It seems that there are lots of changes in the EPL teams.

[Dreamer7]

Oh my! Owen is joining Beckham at Real Madrid! What do you all think?

[db44]

Write-up:

LIVERPOOL, England (AP) _ English striker Michael Owen will join Spanish club Real Madrid, said the manager of his current club Liverpool said Friday.

No further details were immediately available.

"When I came here (Owen) had one year left on his contract,'' said Rafael Benitez, who took over Liverpool this summer. "Real Madrid knew that, and when a big club like them come knocking you cannot control it.''

Owen, one of the fastest players in the Premier League, scored 19 goals in 2003-04. A regular with England, the 24-year-old has appeared in two World Cups and played at Euro 2004 in Portugal.

Liverpool left him on the bench for Tuesday's Champions League qualifying match against Austria's Grazer AK, which the English club won 2-0.

If Owen had made an appearance, he wouldn't have been allowed to play for any other club in European competition in 2004-05. He had been in negotiations for months to extend his contract at Liverpool, but the talks stalled on Monday.

[muffins]

I am gutted. I'm not very happy. I was looking forward to a new season optimistically, things were looking good with a new manager and a few new players and last week Michael said he should sign his contract this week. I've been away for the week away from the internet and TV so the first I heard about it all was on Wednesday when I phoned my dad. He completed a medical today in Spain and is supposed to be unveiled tomorrow. It'll be strange watching Liverpool without Owen. I am undecided whether to watch Spanish football or not. On the other hand, Vieira announced today he will be staying with Arsenal. Why are Real Madrid buying more strikers? They need defenders, not attackers. :greyno: :noway:

[muffins]

Real Madrid now want Newcastle's Jonathan Woodgate for a reported £13.4 million.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/3578830.stm

[Dreamer7]

Yeah, that was what I just read. Omg, Woodgate for Real? Eh...no. That's expensive for him too anyways and he is not even England's best defender, there are like 3 better than him.

[muffins]

He is a good defender but he is so injury prone! Perhaps Newcastle think that if they can get a good sum for him they can buy a defender who isn't going to spend most of the season injured.

[kev316]

Where is Rooney going to go? I think Man Utd.

[Dreamer7]

Looking at Newcastle now, I think Rooney is going to Man Utd. Man Utd also made another new offer. Newcastle better go looking for some defenders first.

[Dreamer7]

Oh no! Newcastle sacked Bobby Robson! How can they do this to him. I know Newcastle is not doing well at all but they should have let him resign then just sacked him like that. Or find another manager to help him. I feel sad for him, seeing he is old and all.

[muffins]

Yeah, I liked him. He's 71 and has got such an enthusiam for the game, it was infectious. He's a legend and I don't think he's been treated the right way. It was not a good idea for the chairman at the beginning of the season that they would not be renewing his contract. That may have lost Sir Bobby some respect in the dressing room.

Also, West Brom have bought Robert Earnshaw from Cardiff City. :(

[Dreamer7]

Wayne Rooney is officially a red devil! Hmm, there is some strong competition amongst the strikers. Look: Van Nistelrooy, Saha, Alan Smith and Wayne Rooney! Wow! Ronney is almost 3 times the value of Smith. You know what, I think Rooney is a little overrated right now though.

[Debbie]

i am looking forward to seeing Rooney play as a red,we have 4 good strikers now just hope Fregie can keep them all happy.

[muffins]

I think Rooney is a bit over-priced but oh well. Good luck to him but I don't think many Everton fans are happy.

[Dreamer7]

I wonder if he will get booed back at the Everton stadium when Man Utd play them. Lucky for Smith Leeds are in Division 1 because I can see how much the Leeds fans will dispise him for joining Man Utd. Haha!

[Dreamer7]

Talking about over pricing, Man Utd seems to love to pay extra money for their players.

[muffins]

Yeah, ever since about Rio Ferdinand. He is a class player but I thought they paid too much for him.

Graeme Souness today resigned from his job as Blackburn manager and was announced as Newcastle's new manager today.

[kev316]

Souness

[Dreamer7]

^Haha why the surprise look? Newcastle need a new manager and no one but Souness wanted it.

[muffins]

Now Blackburn are looking for a new manager and they keep linking Mark Hughes with the job. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I know he wants to manage a Premiership club and I don't begrudge him that but I want him to see the qualification campaign with Wales, even if it does go a bit wrong.

[Dreamer7]

I heard Mark Huges is confirmed as Blackburn's manager is it?

[kev316]

^Haha why the surprise look? Newcastle need a new manager and no one but Souness wanted it.

I didn't think he was in the running, so a bit unexpected. They did win today.

Yeah, Hughes is the new B'Burn boss & they beat Portsmouth yesterday.

[Dreamer7]

Heard Man Utd is targeting Cudicini, Chelsea goalkeeper. He will be a very good buy!

[muffins]

Such a shame Hughes has gone. Only two more games left in charge of Wales. :( I wish him well at Blackburn but I'm stumped as to who will take over with Wales. Gary Speed is too inexperienced, Chris Coleman is happy at Fulham and has a job to do there as does Ian Rush at Chester(he's just started his managerial career). Someone did mention Dean Saunders but he wasn't on the shortlist in the paper today. John Toshack's name was also there as well as Gerrard Houllier. Apparently they'd like him to partner Ian Rush or Gary Speed in charge of Wales so the Welshman can learn and get experience while not being the only one making decisions. No offence to Houllier, but I'd prefer a Welsh person, or at least a Brit. It also said there was one other high profile name who had confirmed his interest in the job, I've been trying to work out who this is hehe.

Anyway, Cudicini, yes. Very good goalie. Any team would do well to have him on their side. I rate him highly.