Ugh...

[bekahbeans]

Remember how I told you guys I was arguing with people from church about male and female roles?

Oh yes, well I finally finished the damn discussion and just recently someone else had to re-open the can of worms. My favorite part of the discussion thus far:

Dumbass-Christian male-who's-balls-need-to-be-kicked:

"I am aware that you all think I will have a terrible marriage because I will refuse to place my wife's opinion above my own -- in other words I refuse to be dominated by my wife like most men in America.
I will certainly place her interests above my own, but I am responsible before God for guiding and protecting my family, and will therefore do what I think is right, even if she disagrees with me.

Only a bitch would not want to submit to a husband who is looking out for her best interests. Only a bitch would want to rule over a man. What you people need to understand is that I will not be ruled by a bitch, nor will I marry one.
Perhaps Inultus or others on this board are attracted to feminist bitches who, or perhaps he just doesn't have the guts to do what is right when a woman has a different "opinion."

I really don't know why I am getting so much hostility on this issue from members of a supposedly "Christian" church. What does Riverview teach on this subject anyway? I hope it is not that men should obey their wife's "opinion" instead of following his own convictions, as the majority opinion on this board seems to be."

Me, aka Bitch:

"You say bitch like it's a bad thing.

Good luck finding a doorma...I mean wife."

Dumbass:

"Thank you for aptly illustrating my point."

Bekah the Bitch:

"Oh, you're welcome. Any time."



Who the hell would marry this guy? What self-respecting and intelligent woman would subject herself to such idiocy?!?!

Oh but wait, any woman who's not a bitch would. It's so hard being a feminist bitch these days. I'm not sure how I got to such a lowly point in my life. Honestly, thinking you're worth something is really overrated anyway. Maybe this guy could teach me a thing or two. I so want my spirit to be broken.

:rolleyes:

[tiger_rascal]

I know you are upset, but you could have toned it down a bit, the language, for this forum. I know those words are permitted, but... *sigh*

[bekahbeans]

Hmm...lemme think about that.

No.

Why is this forum any different than the other ones?

[tiger_rascal]

Its just not respectful.

[bekahbeans]

That's life.

[*Candy*]

I feel sorry for his loser wife, and the children that him and that loser wife will raise.....

[princessKT]

You say bitch like it's a bad thing.

I think you should have used this line to illustrate your views again, Bekah.

[bekahbeans]

^meaning?

[SpriteRite]

Good Discussion. But *I* would probably end up being this guy's "loser wife". Sorry ya'll but I think that men and women do have their roles in relationships. I think the man should be the head of the household. A traditional family. He never said anything about disrespecting, abusing or hurting his family. He said his role was to care for and protect them. He just needs to find a woman who wants to be a traditional housewife/mom.

Maybe it's all in how people were raised. My parents are still happily married after 24 years, both sets of grandparents are still happily married after 50+ years and all my aunts and uncles are still married (both sides of the family).

I personally don't care for feminist hippies. I'm all about women being treated fairly and whatnot but I think women and men have seperate roles in relationships. And I don't think that if a woman wants that, it doesn't make her a "loser wife". Because that's what I want and I certianly would not consider myself a loser wife but a loving, caring mother and wife.

[princessKT]

^meaning?

Just that bitch is being seen as a bad word in this forum.

[tiger_rascal]

So its a good thing now?

I know some words are permitted and I disagree with it. This is a forum where some posters have moral standards and such words are disrespectful to them and their faith or religion.

And before the "dont read it" excuse is thrown at me, Im a moderator and I read everything in this forum. Perhaps a warning about graphic language in the thread title would do some good?

And besides, its not like the english language is lacking of better words to use.

[bekahbeans]

Oh please. People have moral standards on every board. This board is no different just because it's titled "faith and religion."

Besides, the word bitch was his, not mine.

[tiger_rascal]

You could have edited him. You did not have to stoop to his level of repeating it. I am shaming him as well. He should not have used that word. He is supposed to be a Christian.

[db44]

I love my bitch, thank you.

That would be Thurman, people! :p

Michele and myself actually just had a conversation which I guess would make me a panzy in Dumbass' eyes. Michele said sometimes when we talk it feels like each of us is the one trying to be "right." I then said she was right. :p In dumbass' world, Michele should just shut up and cook for me. Uh, no thanks, I like constructive conversation.

The only minor issue I have about Bekah's words is the described attack on Dumbass' genitelia. Otherwise, as stated, the words aren't banned.

[bekahbeans]

Why should I edit them? If someone is dumbass enough to use them, then I will represent them as they actually are.


My attack was justified. So there.

[bekahbeans]

Maybe it's all in how people were raised. My parents are still happily married after 24 years, both sets of grandparents are still happily married after 50+ years and all my aunts and uncles are still married (both sides of the family).


What exactly are you suggesting by this? That because your family members are married you therefore want to be a traditional wife? I don't buy that.

If anything it has to do with how your family views marriage. My parents and aunts and uncles are all still married too. The only marriages in my family that suck are the ones with the attitude that the man is in charge, instead of both the man and woman working as equals.


I really have no problem with people wanting to be a traditional wife, or wanting a traditional wife - if by "traditional" you mean staying at home with the kids while the dude works. Fine.

What I take issue with is the attitude that the man is somehow better in the relationship and the woman is basically there to suit his fancies and pop out his babies simply because he is the man and she is the lowly woman.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Bitch isn't a word that is starred out, not like , , , , etc.

Whoa. They aren't even starred out anymore, just... gone. Okay.

Go on, bekah. Preach it sista! :)

[bekahbeans]

Yeah, I miss the stars. Now I have to actually work if I want to swear.

Such an inconvenience.

[*Candy*]

There's a difference between a "loser wife" and a housewife. The "loser wife" has no opinions and is totally submissive and viewed as a lesser human in ways....

[db44]

"Lesser human"?

[*Candy*]

By the husband I mean, like her opinions don't matter to him, as if for some reason she's a lesser human compared to him.

[tiger_rascal]

Thats what I was meaning Dave, the other words, not just the b part.

[pinky]

I personally don't care for feminist hippies.Wow. Peace, man! Like, wow.

[Leezard]

Bekah, you are my goddess!

I don't believe that any person has the right to posess another human being like this man seems hell bent on doing. I just finished reading the most amazing book I have ever read and it's all about God's love and how that should translate into a marriage and how we all make mistakes but God never gives up on us and that's how a marriage should be. This guys sounds like he has no clue what God has intended for a marriage and I pray that he figures it out before he stakes his claim on some poor woman.

[princessKT]

All I see is bitch, I don't see anything else bad, unless it's been edited. :confused:

[bekahbeans]

Nothing's been edited.

*hugs a rainbow*

[princessKT]

I guess I'm really slow then. I read it like four times. LMAO

[Leezard]

The Goddess just can't control herself...:tongue:

[tiger_rascal]

I counted 5 that could have been toned down. There are better words that could have been used without being disrespectful to people who visit this forum.

Whatever floats your boat though. Its not breaking the TOS of this board, but I can always have the opinion that the language censor should be more strict, since this is an all age board and this forum in particular has people of different religions and faiths, the majority of which find such language immoral and disrespectful.

[bekahbeans]

I am immoral and disrespectful.



And unless something has changed, this isn't an all age board.

[bekahbeans]

and I count five I could have made a lot worse.

Count your blessings.

[tiger_rascal]

If Im not mistaken there are quite a few members under the age of 18, which is why we have some of our rules in place to begin with, for the younger viewers.

Forgive me, perhaps this is not really an all age board, but I dont see why it shouldnt be, well I can, but that could easily change.

All I ask is that people watch their language in this forum, just one forum. I would expect most people to understand this, but I realize not everyone will care.

[bekahbeans]

You're right. There are younger viewers. And TOS's to deal with them, and edited words as well.

As already stated, I have not broken any.

If you want additional editing then get your personal preferences added to the list.

[princessKT]

You are a mod, you could edit.

[bekahbeans]

^or do that.

[tiger_rascal]

No, I cant. I would be overstepping my boundaries, enforcing what is not to be enforced. It would not be fair. All I can do is plead.

[bekahbeans]

Whatever floats your boat though.

How dare you say something with such sexual innuendos.

I am personally offended that a Christian would say such an immoral and inconsiderate thing. I shame you.

[tiger_rascal]

I just read the rules that I set for this forum and Im breaking my own rules by not enforcing what I described in the rules. Perhaps I should have edited. Maybe Im just a softy and I like giving people chances. I dont want to have to edit.

[princessKT]

Giving people chances? Chances for what when she's not breaking the rules?

[bekahbeans]

Oh gee, chances. That's swell. I feel so privileged.


Go ahead and edit it. I don't care one whit.


But while you're add it, I would expect your post about "boats" "floating" to be edited as well.

[db44]

Give peace a chance!

Everybody's talkin' bout...

[tiger_rascal]

Bekah, if you have read the rules of this forum you know what I would like to see in this forum and what I would not like to see.

I've been told I can edit language in this forum as I see fit and I even had help with those rules from a more experienced mod. Moderators are to enforce the TOS and some forums have specific rules and its up to the moderators to decide that. Im currently trying to find out if the very simple rules I set for this forum are permissible. If they are not, I will edit the forum rules.

Besides, whats so hard about watching ones language?

[bekahbeans]

Why are you still talking about this?

Edit it if you're that bothered.

[BrianWilly]

Anyone want to hear what I think?






No one? Well, here I go anyway.

I think that the term "bitch" is an appropriate term for this post. The word "bitch" is a swear word, yes, but these days it's no longer just a swear word. In addition to a mere insult suggesting "female dog" imagery, in modern slang when a man calls a woman a bitch it means that she is too brazen and insolent and does what she wants despite his approval. When a woman calls herself a bitch it often means that she possesses those qualities, yes, and is a better person for it; more independent and self-realized.

In a thread that discusses the modern extroverted role of women versus the traditional subjugation and submissiveness of the feminine role, I don't think it's inappropriate at all to use this term "bitch," which carries this much modern linguistic connotations. It's not as if she used it as an insult to anyone, much less any member here.

[bekahbeans]

Agreed.

And wtf, I spelled "at it" as "add it"

:rolleyes:

[tiger_rascal]

And the other words?

Nice excuse though Brian. But the post overall was just a nasty post. A nasty conversation between them both no doubt.

I've seen worse confrontations handled much better.

[bekahbeans]

Boohoo.

You're wrong.

[bekahbeans]

and what are all these other oh-so-offensive words?

Let me analyze it for you:

Damn - I have seen this word used by several different people in different posts on this very board.

Hell - same story

Balls - I don't think this is even a swear word. Maybe a little crass, but nothing to go *gasp* over.

I don't believe these words are what you've taken issue with. Otherwise why has no one else had you jump all over them about their language.

And no, this was not a nasty conversation. What about my responses to him was nasty? Nothing. And that's all I said. I left nothing out. Sarcasm does not = nastiness. If anything is "nasty" then it is his appaling and rude attitude. So yeah I guess this could be called a "nasty post" but not because I was being nasty, but because said moron was nasty. And before you throw the, "well uh, you coulda edited his words," line at me again, don't. That's the main point of why what he said was so disgusting. Editing that would have been stupid and would have made what he said less disturbing.

And where are all these other people who are supposedly offended by this? All I see is you. So if you're so offended then edit the damn post already and stop whining.

[BrianWilly]

And the other words?

Nice excuse though Brian. But the post overall was just a nasty post. A nasty conversation between them both no doubt.

I've seen worse confrontations handled much better.And I've been offended much worse by people on this board who didn't use any swear words at all.

I personally found the first post in this thread to be a fascinating dynamic between two people, both Christian, who take opposing views on the feminine ideal. That the discussion was heated does not render it offensive, to me. That the term "bitch" was brought up not once but repeatedly makes it all that much more intriguing on the cultural allegorical scale. I mean, no one would say that word in a discussion about shellfish.

I'm not sure which other words you're talking about, sorry. Damn? Hell? If I'm not mistaken, both words were used in the Bible.

[tiger_rascal]

Its the context of the post, the way the words were used. The language was inappropriate for this forum according to the rules. And you are still forgetting another word, but thats besides the point now.

And, Bekah, I have jumped on other people for their language. Not too long ago I merged one thread with another because the language in the thread title was offensive, so I gave it a chance by merging it with a like thread that was still a little active. And you are right, I have not been jumping on posters for their language and that includes you. I've let it slide the past few weeks. This thread was the last straw so to speak. I wont set by and let it happen. Its too late to edit now anyway and if you were respectful enough you could have edited it yourself. And there are lots of posters who read this forum and do not post.

In conclusion, I hope everyone is clear on the rules of this forum now. After reviewing the TOS and the rules I set in this forum, I now am positive I have every right as moderator of this forum to edit language and content as I see fit. If I were to edit your post I would have only starred out 5 words, the context would not have been lost and I just dont see the big deal between the discussion anyway. Two people who are Christian using language that is not necessary. Its just disappointing.

[bekahbeans]

:rolleyes:

Ridiculous.

[princessKT]

And I've been offended much worse by people on this board who didn't use any swear words at all.

I would have to agree with that.

[Leezard]

I'm about to vomit... I just read a letter to my parents from my sisters, PRAISE GOD IN HEAVEN, EX-boyfriend who is in prison and he literally disgusts me, almost to the point of making me physically sick. Ya all know that my parents recently got a female pastor, she's 26 and this is her first time as the head of a church. Well apparently my parents told this guy about her and he came back with that whole sexist "women aren't supposed to lead the church", "that's not how God intended it", "I feel sorry for you and your church", "this will be so horrible for you all" mess. This man just kills me with his nasty attitude and totally un-Christ-like beliefs. If you could see how he has, in other situations too, taken the scripture and twisted it to fit his lifestyle it would make more sense why this pushes me over the edge. And to add to the trash of his letter, he basically trashes my sister, to my parents, because she told him their relationship was over. He doesn't see how he's changed so much and how he's become this dominering, sexist jack ass so he blames it all on my sister. Now I won't deny she had a part in the end of their relationship but damn, so did he and he can't even take responsibility for his actions.
Ugh, I am so lit right now and trying to let go and let God but man it's so hard. I don't know how my parents can handle still talking to this guy when he's talked about my sister like he has and when he's totally trashed their basic beliefs with his sexist garbage. All I can figure is that they must have more control over their love for people because I'm having to beat my hate for him down right now in attempt to just handle him.

[Leezard]

Well all of my being pissed off turned into something productive and hopefully positive if for no one else it is for myself. I started to write this guy a letter, with no intentions of sending it as it was quite harsh and more just for me to get out the mess in my head. I ended up looking up one of my favorite sites on the bible and seeing what their say on women in ministry was and that brought me to this little ditty that's what I found to be the parts of their page on women that spoke to me the most.

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" (Genesis 1:27).
"Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created" (Genesis 5:2).
It is interesting to note that God called both male and female, "Adam" in the day they were created. Adam means "man." Adam and Eve were created with God-ordained differences from each other, but together they made a full "man," or a complete picture of God Himself. There was perfection in their union. Their differences were not a source of discord or inequality, but a beautiful compliment to each other. Together, God gave them the task of overseeing and ruling His creation

When Eve ate the forbidden fruit and enticed Adam to sin with her, one of the consequences for women was the loss of equality with men, as men were to rule over women, instead of men and women ruling together. She would now be "ruled by her husband." However, when Jesus came as sinless Man and died as the Messiah on the cross for us, all things were restored positionally. In actuality, the restoration of man (men and women) began to take place at that very moment.
Though the complete cleansing of the curse has not yet been manifested on the earth, the day is coming when it will be so. Or to put it another way, all those who receive Jesus as Savior receive restoration as Sons of God, but not all of us walk in that restoration--yet., Through Jesus the curse upon women has been lifted. Women no longer have to receive pain in childbirth nor are they inferior to man with him ruling over them. Women can now be restored to their original place and plan that God had for all His "sons." Although we do not see all things restored at this time, "legally" in the spiritual realm, they already have been.

"For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive" (I Corinthians 15:21-22).
Once we are born into the kingdom of God, we become new creatures in Christ. In the Spirit, we find there is "neither male nor female," just as there are no race distinctions nor class separations. The Lord looks on the hearts of His new creatures and therefore does not discriminate when He offers His love and privileges. Women are not excluded from any of God's promises nor callings merely because of their sex.
Galatians 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."

How does all of this lead up to women ministers? Perhaps you are thinking that although we have laid a biblical foundation for "neither male nor female" in Christ, certain verses in the New Testament still seem to ban women from ministry positions in the church. Let's examine these verses for the true interpretation.
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law" (1 Corinthians 14:34).
"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1 Timothy 2:11-12).
In these verses, Paul cannot be addressing women who were in the ministry, but rather those in the congregation who were out of order. How do we know this? We have many such proofs, many from Paul himself. Here is a partial list of women who were all in influential positions of leadership in the early church.


Pheobe (Romans 16:1-2): This woman was a deaconess of the church in Cenchrea, who was beloved of Paul and many other Christians for the help she gave to them. She filled an important position of leadership. It would be a difficult stretch of the imagination to say that this woman fulfilled her duties without ever speaking in the church!
Priscilla (Acts 18:26): Priscilla and her husband Aquila are often mentioned with great respect by Paul. Together they were pastors of a church in Ephesus, and were responsible for teaching the full gospel to Apollos. We are informed that they both taught Apollos, and pastored the church together. In fact, Priscilla is sometimes listed ahead of Aquila when their names come up. This has led some to speculate that of the two, she was the primary teacher and her husband oversaw the ministry. At any rate, we see here a woman in a very prominent position of teaching and pastoring. (Other references to Priscilla and Aquila are Acts 18:2, 18; Romans 16:3, and I Corinthians 16:19).
Euodia and Syntyche (Philippians 4:2-3): Here we see reference to two women who were "true yokefellow" and who labored with Paul in the advancement of the gospel.
Junia (Romans 16:7): In this verse we see Paul sending greetings to Andronicus and Junia, his "fellow-prisoners" who are of note among the apostles. Junia is a woman's name. In some modern translations, an "s" has been added (Junias) because the translators were so sure a woman could not be an apostle, that they assumed a copyist has accidentally dropped the "s." However the proper male ending would have been "ius," not "ias." No church commentator earlier than the Middle Ages questioned that Junia was both a woman and an apostle.
Though there were other women throughout the Bible in positions of leadership, such as prophetesses, evangelists, judges, leaders, etc., the above references should be enough to establish that women were indeed a vital and normal part of church leadership. Paul expected women to speak in the church, or else why would he have given the following directive? It would have been useless to give directions for women who were speaking in the church, if they were never allowed to do so.

1 Corinthians 11:5, "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven."
Furthermore, if Paul believed that all women should never teach or speak in church, why does he commend many women who did just that?

"Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation: To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God" (2 Corinthians 5:16-20).
God wants to use any person who will yield to His Spirit, regardless of that person's sex or capabilities. Those who are a new creature in Christ have His capabilities.
Our problem is that we must see there are rules for the fleshly, or earthly man, and there are rules for the spiritual man. Then, we must discern when to apply the appropriate Scripture. We are admonished in 2 Timothy 2:15 to "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
You can find the rest of it here http://www.bible.com/answers/awomemin.html

Maybe I'll print that up and send it to him instead.

[bekahbeans]

You do realize you're going to hell now, don't you Liz? Cuz you swore and that's unacceptable. You're very immoral and disrespectful.

Soo...

EDIT YOUR POST! I'M OFFENDED!!!


and thanks for the article ;)

[tiger_rascal]

I hereby declare this thread a free-for-all!

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Whooo hoooo!! Par-tay! Come on girls, let's go! *dances*

Good letter, Liz!

[bekahbeans]

*snorts* all threads are free-for-alls even if no one will admit it.


You bringing the alcohol, DES?

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Sure! Is Jager okay? lol Wait, I think I have some German white wine too. hmmm... *rummages around*

[princessKT]

Christians aren't supposed to drink. :o Shame on you.

[bekahbeans]

Ooh white wine. Works for me! I can make jello shots...


Christians are most certainly supposed to drink. Jesus did after all, and we are to follow His perfect example.


Even if they weren't supposed to, I've already been proclaimed immoral and disrepsectful so why not have some fun while I'm at it?

[tiger_rascal]

Thats the attitude! :rolleyes:

[bekahbeans]

That's right. :] :devil:

[tiger_rascal]

:angel:

[princessKT]

Even if they weren't supposed to, I've already been proclaimed immoral and disrepsectful so why not have some fun while I'm at it?

I hope you know I was being sarcastic. But I'm pretty sure you knew. :p

[Leezard]

Dude...I have a feeling I'm gonna be one of those women who sits at home alone all day and drinks a bottle of wine while I'm cleaning the house or whatever. LOL

[bekahbeans]

I knew you were being sarcastic, Katie. ;) So was I.


You can't stay at home all day, Liz. You and I can go out. Duuh :p

[princessKT]

Who's going to be the DD? :p

[Leezard]

Woo hoo!

Darn, I liked your avatar with our new husband in it...I don't want us to be married to Homer Pan.

[bekahbeans]

lol, sorry. I can put lil' Petey back later but for now I like Homer. And it's him as Link, from the Legend of Zelda, not Peter Pan you uneducated...person!!!

Dave's the DD.

[Leezard]

Ahhhhhh...He still looks like Peter Pan... :tongue:

[Leezard]

Maybe we could get a golf cart to drive, that shouldn't be too dangerous ;)

[bekahbeans]

yes, but note the triforce on the sword. Dead give away.

[bekahbeans]

Oh yes!! Golf carts are sooooooooo much fun.

or maybe one of those old people cars, like they all rode in that one episode of Seinfeld.

[princessKT]

I don't know if Dave makes a good DD or not. hehe

[bekahbeans]

Oh come on, he claims he doesn't generally get smashed anyway. I'm sure he can drive us around.

But no matter! I kind of like the golf cart idea better anyway.

[Leezard]

Yes, I say a golf cart or one of those old people scooter thingies. We could each have our own scooters and race them up and down the sidewalk!

[princessKT]

But if Dave drives you around, you get to hear the lady giving him directions in his little environmentally safe car. :D

[db44]

How about making the DD somebody who is not of legal drinking age? :p

[bekahbeans]

Because I don't trust Liz to drive us around. :eek:

[db44]

I know somebody else here who is underage...

[bekahbeans]

Pah.

We'll go on Nov. 7th.

No one underage.

[princessKT]

hahahaha busted.

[bekahbeans]

Punk, shutup!

Ok, new plan. We won't go out, but everyone can go get the beverage of his or her choice and bring it back to...where the golf carts are and we'll party there.

I'm a genius.

[Leezard]

I don't know if it would be good to have a man as my DD right now as I'm kind in an anti-man mood right now. He might loose something important...

[princessKT]

House parties can be more fun anyway.. or golfcart parties, too, I'm sure. ;)

[Leezard]

I've had a good time partying on a golf cart in the past...very good times. Ya just have to watch out for the drunken poker run boat guys that are partying just across the lot and one of them playing on his trumpet. Man, that was an awesome weekend...boat races rock!

[bekahbeans]

lol, wow

[db44]

I guess I better stay home then. I don't want to lose anything important... Like my wallet.

[tiger_rascal]

Or integrity.

[princessKT]

Yeah, because going to a party would really ruin a person's integrity.

[bekahbeans]

Uh yeah, for some reason I thought Dave was gonna say, "I don't want to lose anything important...Like my virginity"

Don't ask, just don't ask. :scratch: :rolleyes:

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Or integrity.


Honestly... what the hell are you rambling on about? :scratch:

[Leezard]

I guess I better stay home then. I don't want to lose anything important... Like my wallet.

Oh yes, because it's your wallet that makes you "the man" isn't it, all that money you bring in to support your wife and your 15 children while she sits at home doing nothing but cleaning your house and feeding your kids and all the other womanly work. :tongue:

Warning: Going anywhere with the Goddess and/or me would cause you to lose your integrity...we're just horrible people like that :biggrin:

[tiger_rascal]

Yeah, because going to a party would really ruin a person's integrity.

I suppose that all depends. But, if you say so.

[bekahbeans]

Either party with us or stop being such a party pooper.

[tiger_rascal]

Wheres the party? :scratch:

[bekahbeans]

Where are the golf carts?

[Leezard]

There's apparently some form of a golf cart club in Elsie, I'm sure they'd let us join. We could tool around the little town in our pimped out golf cart looking for woodpeckers to run over. :funny: :roll: :music:

[bekahbeans]

*snorts*

Yeeeesss. I want running lights on mine.

woodpeckers. *snickers evilly*

[bekahbeans]

the party has just been moved to "Teapot Dome"

[Leezard]

Yes, we will party in Teapot Dome, MI. We will prance around in tights and fairy costumes and then parade down the main street of the village on our golf carts...mine will be a low-rider and the Goddess will have running lights on hers.

[princessKT]

Is that anywhere near Holland and the tulip festival? *snickers*

[Leezard]

Unfortunately no, it isn't but if it were that would make it all the more fun. I think we're going to have a Teapot Dome Woodpecker Festival! Goddess, just think of the possibilities!

[princessKT]

I love the midwest. :love: lmao

[db44]

Who said I have any integrity in the first place? :confused:

Yeah! Let's go to the Netherlands! The tulip festivals at Kukenhof open about the same time of Queens Day, which is like National Pary Day! :D

[princessKT]

I was talking about Michigan. But hey, if we really want to become all non-Christian like, let's go party in the place where drugs, prostitution and gay marriage is legal. YAY!

[db44]

Not to mention good beer and nude saunas! :blueeek: :D

[bekahbeans]

Geez, no wonder Dave liked it over there so much. :p

[db44]

Past tense?

[bekahbeans]

I stand corrected. That's the reason he likes it so much.

[db44]

I wanna go back in December! Well, I want to go back now, but have no reason, and in September, but don't think I can scrounge up the moolah.

[princessKT]

I still think going to a nude sauna with you would be funny. I just think going on trips with you is fun anyway.

[bekahbeans]

Sounds scary to me. :eek:

[princessKT]

hahaha Don't people go into haunted houses for fun? It's the same concept. :p

[bekahbeans]

But I don't have to see naked people in haunted houses.

There's scary and then there's terrifying. :p

[bejewell81]

hmmmm, I think a little Alanis Morissette is appropriate here!! Don't you agree Bekah!

I won't see my dear friends as much
Male friends especially, I'll no longer be in touch
I'll change my hobbies to match yours
I'll stop reading my favorite books
I won't spend all this selfish time alone
I'll cater to you and hang on your every word

I'll be subservient and spineless
I'll lick your boots as empty shells
I'll be opinion less and silent
I'll be the prettiest appendage to ever lose herself

I'll re-define self-sacrifice
Live my life as apologetic compromise
I'll know you need if I rock the boat

I'll be subservient and spineless
I'll lick your boots as empty shells
I'll be opinion less and silent
I'll be the prettiest appendage to ever lose herself

I feel this, truly proclaimed will help the curbing of this tendency
I know this sharing of shame will ensure that I won't forget myself so easily

I'll be low maintenance and agreeable
I will not talk about my dreams so much
I'll listen to you for hours, won't need anything

I'll be subservient and spineless
I'll lick your boots as empty shells
I'll be opinion less and silent
I'll be the prettiest appendage to ever lose herself

I'll be subservient and spineless
I'll lick your boots as empty shells
I'll be opinion less and silent
I'll be the prettiest appendage to ever lose herself

I feel this, truly proclaimed will help the curbing of this tendency
I know this sharing of shame will ensure that I won't forget myself so easily

~Spineless

She always knows how to say it the way we wish we could...

[bekahbeans]

I frickin' love that song.

and you. You rock.