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*rockstar54*
Nov 15th, 2004, 02:38 PM
Bonds wins seventh MVP award
Giants slugger is oldest to grab honor; no one else has more than three
John Shea, Chronicle Staff Writer
Monday, November 15, 2004

Giants slugger Barry Bonds, despite his advanced age (40) and hefty walks total (232), won his seventh National League MVP award and fourth in a row. The voting results were announced Monday, and Bonds was an easy winner, though not unanimous.

He received 24 of 32 first-place votes – two writers from each NL city got a vote – while three other players received first-place votes. Los Angeles' Adrian Beltre had six, and St. Louis teammates Albert Pujols and Scott Rolen had one apiece.

"Anytime you win an award, it's an honor and privilege. It's a lot of hard work," Bonds said from his home in Beverly Hills. "I don't know if one's better than the other. They're all overwhelming. You sometimes get lost for words. It's nice. I'm happy. My wife and mom are happy. That's what's most important."

Bonds' numbers were staggering.

Aside from his record total of walks – he also drew a record 120 intentional walks – Bonds hit .362 with 45 homers, 101 RBIs, a .610 on-base percentage and an .812 slugging percentage, He also became the third player to reach 700 homers, finishing with 703.

For winning, he earned a $500,000 bonus.

"Every year, I have different challenges," Bonds said. "This year I got walked more than I ever did in my career. I never thought I could win an awards being walked. I didn't think that was possible. Keeping up with these athletes, you think your chances are minuscule."

Bonds spoke publicly for the first time since The Chronicle reported that his weight trainer, Greg Anderson, claimed in a secretly recorded conversation that the outfielder used an "undetectable" performance-enhancing drug during the 2003 season.

"I've been dealing with adversity my entire life. I don't really get concerned about what you guys write. I tell my friends who say, 'Does that bother you?' What for? They do their jobs. They keep the (readers') interest. My dad said, 'If they're talking about you, you must be doing something (right).' I let you guys do your job, and I stay out of it. But these things are hurtful to my family and hurtful to my children. ... I kind of walk right through it."

No other player has more than three MVP awards, and no other player won more than two in a row. The NHL's Wayne Gretzy won nine MVPs.

What's next for Bonds?

"I need to win a World Series. I really want my ball team to do that. I don't have many swings in me."
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Candy's Boy
Dec 3rd, 2004, 07:57 PM
Got Juice?

db44
Dec 4th, 2004, 02:21 AM
You can't blame the writes for giving him the award. It was voted on at the very end of the season and at that point it was not known what he had or hadn't been taking.

One could even make the case that this is the MVP he deserved, if he was suppposedly off the stuff this past year.

If you want to say he didn't belong in baseball this past season however, I won't mecessarily disagree with that.

*rockstar54*
Dec 4th, 2004, 07:14 PM
Bonds totally deserved and earned this MVP. He was obviously clean this season, and he was the best player.

db44
Dec 5th, 2004, 03:29 AM
How was he "obviously clean" this year? I'm not saying he wasn't, but how can you prove it?

You know technically - and like in the other thread, this comes from the radio station I work for - Bonds did nothing wrong in the grand scheme of baseball rules. MLB didn't have a drug policy until this former season.

I'm not condoning his actions, I think it's more that MLB now has to have a very strict policy and that the union had better ratify the policy. But as far as Bonds taking an illegal substance, it was illegal by law, not in MLB. Can we all say we've never taken anything illegal in our lives? I used to drink when I was 16, although I usually had my mom's consent, she wasn't there as my guardian, so that was technically illegal.

The Beatles, and I would bet a number of other bands, took uppers and stuff to keep awake in their early years. Performance enhancing drugs for their profession. I don't see anybody crying about the greatness of the Beatles, yet if they hadn't have taken these things to stay awake for their shows, they never would have been able to work as they did in Hamburg. Without that in their history, they may never have been signed, as they wouldn't have had the opportunity to be such a big staple at the Cavern Club.

Again, I'm not saying its right, I'm just trying to put this in perspective that if MLB didn't have any rules, then you can't necessarily blame Bonds for anything until what he may have done in '03 and definitely in '04. Does that make it right? Morally I don't believe so, but technically, as far as MLB rules are concerned, he didn't do anything wrong. He did something illegal, but as mentioned in another forum, Ty Cobb stabbed a Black porter, yet was never arrested for it. Yet Cobb is in the Hall of Fame.

Venisenvy
Dec 5th, 2004, 12:04 PM
1.I Believe bonds clearly knew he was taken steroids.

2.I believe Bonds still uses steroids.

3.As of now he deserves the MVP award because he was. If it is discovered that he did in fact use steroids and continues to use them and knows hes taking steroids then he does not deserve to play baseball anymore ever but this award should not be overturned.

*nsyncablemom
Dec 6th, 2004, 06:50 AM
if you believe he was and still is using steroids, why does he deserve the award? What message would that send :scratch:

and I agree with Dave, why is it obvious that he isn't anymore, if he indeed was?

Venisenvy
Dec 6th, 2004, 06:51 AM
The reason is because numbers wise wether roid up or not he was the MVP. And im just not a big fan of changing the record books, i hate the idea of doing because its starts here but there doesnt seem to be an end in sight.

Candy's Boy
Jan 2nd, 2005, 06:31 AM
^ No one likes a cheater, especially those who cheat when it comes to sports.