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Sinister
Nov 30th, 2004, 02:07 PM
30/11/2004 - 19:20:52

A British TV documentary will shock Beatles fans with claims the Fab Four fathered a string of children before they married.

The Channel Five network alleges the group's manager Brian Epstein provided prostitutes for John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr before his untimely death in 1967 of a drug overdose.

Tony Barrow, the publicist for the band between 1963 and 1966, reveals: "There are women in Liverpool who had children fathered by Beatles. They just never kissed and told."

The documentary claims Epstein paid off the mothers to keep them quiet after their brief affairs with the rockers.

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/story.asp?j=125898156&p=yz589886z

db44
Dec 1st, 2004, 01:02 AM
Having seen the footage of the Liverpool years, I find it very hard to believe that this would be possible. They had their groupies and their friends around them in Liverpool. Way too many people to fool and/or keep quiet IMHO.

Actually, Bekah and I were discussing the sexuality of John a few days ago, and his possible bi-sexual relationships with Brian and Stu. I think this has more merit.

princessKT
Dec 1st, 2004, 03:36 AM
Paul always thought John could be gay. Wouldn't surprise me.

db44
Dec 1st, 2004, 05:08 AM
Well, part of the conversation was about why would John leave Cynthia when they remaind in love and friends afterwards for a person as callous-seeming as Yoko... Not to mention the physical attributes of Yoko. :manson:

Sinister
Dec 2nd, 2004, 12:48 PM
I was just going through the Lennon biography by Ray Coleman and there's an entire chapter titled "Divorce". Anyway, before the whole Yoko affair (1967), John came clean with Cynthia.

Honesty, one of John's most endearing characteristics forced him to confess to Cynthia one day early in 1967. Cynthia was washing the dishes when John came behind her, put his arms around her waist and said: "I want to get it off my chest, Cyn. There have been hundreds of other women."
"Strangely", says Cynthia, "it was a very loving moment. I was in tears, not of anger or shock, but tears of happiness that he could tell me, that we'd once got close enough for him to get rid of it, talk it through and put it on a different level. Perhaps it would've been better if I'd been able to be a bit more aggressive. But I was so happy that at last he felt he could open his heart and tell me what was on his mind."

I don't think Cynthia and John's relationship was exactly ideal before Yoko came into the picture. I think he saw Cynthia as more of a friend than a lover, given the fact that he was gone all the time. I think it's also reasonable to conclude that if John did "have hundreds of other women" it's entirely possible that there's one or two love children out there.
As for Yoko's looks, you know the saying, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

"I think that I was probably the successor to Aunt Mimi in John's life." - Yoko Ono

princessKT
Dec 2nd, 2004, 01:45 PM
One of the main reasons John married Cynthia to begin with was because she was pregnant. He was already fooling around on her while they were dating, when they were going to places like Germany, before they hit it big.

And as much as I hate to admit it, John and Yoko had to have been in love for them to be two feet from each other at all times. I don't feel it was Yoko who broke them all up though, there were too many factors.

Sinister
Dec 4th, 2004, 11:37 AM
And as much as I hate to admit it, John and Yoko had to have been in love for them to be two feet from each other at all times..

Ain't that the truth...

princessKT
Dec 4th, 2004, 12:04 PM
Definitely lol

db44
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:13 PM
I tend to look at love as something along the Sting lines: "If you love somebody, set them free." To be that close looks to me more like someone is controlling or manipulating the other.

princessKT
Dec 4th, 2004, 10:39 PM
I don't feel like you've ever been in love then. When you're in love with someone, you want to be around them as much as possible. Although I think John and Yoko were pretty extreme, I can see that if you felt like you met your soulmate, you'd want to be around them all the time.

I didn't really mean to make this personal, but it's just how I feel.