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BronxDarren
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:52 AM
Reading set lists of the solo shows doesn't really do it for me. It's like, oh snap! he played Adam Raised a Cain....on piano.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
BTW how is Mary's Place solo? I mean, that song had a lot of ESB bombast in order to cover for the fact that it's such a bad song....solo stripped down seems like it would be like Michael Jackson without makeup. very scary.
Flory Days
Jun 23rd, 2005, 01:47 PM
Too funny about MP and MJ, although MJ is scary both with and without makeup! :hah: I don't share your lack of enthusiasm for the solo tour but the one song that I just cannot picture on this tour is Mary's Place.
Like you I am more interested in any news about when we might see the ESB again. Anybody with any info?
ohio boss
Jun 23rd, 2005, 01:54 PM
Bring on the boys...The Big Man...The Professor...Stevie... his mother was a Tallent-his father was a Tallent--ya know, i am damn ready
Studz on my Duds
Jun 23rd, 2005, 02:07 PM
Time for the "SNORE TOUR" to end!
Bring on the mighty men and women of the E Street Band!
I am ready to be Re educated, Rededicated, Resusitated, Reanimated, and Reinvigorated!
Faithful Man
Jun 23rd, 2005, 02:17 PM
Good things come to those who wait!
I happen to like the solo acoustic tour and enjoyed the shows at Asbury Park and CAA. It is a chance to see Bruce cast in a different light and gain an even deeper appreciation of his musical talents.
Having said that, I also llok forward to the next round of shows with the heart-stopping, foot-stomping, air conditioner-shaking, history-making legendary "E Street Band."
ForYou
Jun 23rd, 2005, 02:23 PM
from Danny's interview...
"And while he hopes to return to the studio with Springsteen and his longtime cohorts sometime this year, Federici plans to assemble a band and mount a tour behind "Out of a Dream," and make and effort to establish a career as a smooth jazz artist......."
orthy
Jun 23rd, 2005, 02:55 PM
Cleveland was fantastic. Hopefully Buffalo is as good. While it doesn't compare to full band it sure beats the hell out of Joad or the fake band tours. And it really beats the hell out of NO tour. Plus, some serious rarities are making the rounds...I likey.
Muddyemms
Jun 23rd, 2005, 02:58 PM
Bring on the boys...The Big Man...The Professor...Stevie... his mother was a Tallent-his father was a Tallent--ya know, i am damn ready
I'm with you. I think that I'm going to skip this tour. No Miami Steve, no Big Man, no Professor, no Mighty Max, et cetera . . .
scrambl8
Jun 23rd, 2005, 03:52 PM
Your loss is my gain.
ohio boss
Jun 23rd, 2005, 04:40 PM
Don't get me wrong...i enjoyed the shows that i went to on this tour and will probably take in aonther one, possibly two on the second U.S. Leg. But nothing tops the E Street Band for me. I know that isn't what Bruce was aiming at but you would have to be blind to not see the magic and the cohesion of the band. There's just a comfort level for me when I see Roy sitting there at the keys or Clearance like an on deck batter with the bases about to be juiced.There is something so damn right about that. Hey--love the current gig but i like to rock and my favorite band is on hiatus and i need a major fix and hope it's soon.
BruceNut
Jun 23rd, 2005, 04:48 PM
I fully agree with your thoughts Hank. Thats why for me and many others here, its a U2 summer/Fall. You should check them out. We wont take away your Springsteen undies ;)
Sweatyman
Jun 23rd, 2005, 05:03 PM
Thats why for me and many others here, its a U2 summer/Fall. You should check them out
U2 puts on a good show but its the same set everynite unlike the shows from the late 80. Although i do argee i want the rock tour to start least bruce is giving us some audibles
Dirty Annie
Jun 23rd, 2005, 06:30 PM
Good point about variety of U2 sets in the 80's but in the 80's I was really only concerned with the one show I was able to attend. Didn't have my greasy paws on boots so i didn't know what I was missing.
Audibles are great for the compilation CDs but throwing a bone in does not alter the overall vibe of the show. I appreciate the tapestry...the musicianship...the intimacy... the pump organ..the fact that a little water is better than goin thirsty etc. But I still want the band...and apparently I need it too.
On Highway 29
Jun 23rd, 2005, 06:34 PM
I happen to like the solo acoustic tour and enjoyed the shows at Asbury Park and CAA. It is a chance to see Bruce cast in a different light and gain an even deeper appreciation of his musical talents.
I'm loving this tour. It also has given me a deeper appreciation of his lyrics and music. Then again I loved the Joad tour also.
I'll be excited when the ESB tour rolls around tour. But I think the solo tour will give Bruce some different ideas about recasting his songs on the ESB tour. They also need to tour behind a new album.
Dirty Annie
Jun 23rd, 2005, 07:35 PM
Agree on the recasting of songs. In fact, I look forward to just how that incorporation of the D&D songs will work into an ESB tour. I've have been reassured by some Bruce cheerleaders that it is doable and I can wrap my mind around that. And yes....would wait for the aforementioned "good things" if a new album was in the works. A fresh take would make me a very happy camper. Fingers crossed for a productive fall and winter.
Karo
Jun 23rd, 2005, 09:03 PM
I'm loving this tour. It also has given me a deeper appreciation of his lyrics and music. Then again I loved the Joad tour also.
I'll be excited when the ESB tour rolls around tour. But I think the solo tour will give Bruce some different ideas about recasting his songs on the ESB tour. They also need to tour behind a new album.
I agree with 100%. In fact, if you gave me the choice right now, I would choose the solo show over the ESB. I am really looking forward to the Bridgeport show.
BD and Studz, we get it, you don't like the tour. I am sure you guys have plenty of boots and DVDs to hold you over for a year. It is not that long of a wait.
Kathy
admiralkosmos
Jun 23rd, 2005, 09:40 PM
One thing: this time, if it really is the last e-street band tour, get the hunger back, the fire-in-the-belly and take some chances, B. I find myself shelling out 1000's of $ a tour and for what? A consistent PRODUCT, SCRIPTED PSAs, and a patented, sure-fire choreography. Everything is scripted and it's corporate safe.
Harry's had that nothing to lose feel and this Thoroughbred band was born to race blindly down that track at breakneck speed, with sweat flecking off their hide with every crack of the whip -- "Audible!" (crack) "Big Man" (crack) "all right, all right - we don't play this one too much but..."
The world's best bar band can't do what Elvis Costello did with a spinning wheel? Please
On Highway 29
Jun 24th, 2005, 09:40 AM
One thing: this time, if it really is the last e-street band tour, get the hunger back, the fire-in-the-belly and take some chances, B. I find myself shelling out 1000's of $ a tour and for what? A consistent PRODUCT, SCRIPTED PSAs, and a patented, sure-fire choreography. Everything is scripted and it's corporate safe.
The world's best bar band can't do what Elvis Costello did with a spinning wheel? Please
Even the audience itself becomes "scripted" in the sense that we all know to stand and pump our arms in the air during "Badlands," all the house lights come up during "BTR," etc. etc. It's mechanical.
It’s something I noticed on the Tunnel tour, and one reason I thought putting Bruce and the ESB on hiatus overall was a good move.
Maybe that’s why so many of us love the earlier shows (BTR, Lawsuit, Darkness, etc. tours) because Bruce and the band are taking more chances. But maybe in rock ‘n roll, you do that in the early years because you’re playing in small clubs and venues and trying to make a name for yourself. Once you hit the arenas and stadiums, you’re playing at an event, and this might change things. I don't know if you can get the hunger back.
My $.02 for the day.
dukestreetking
Jun 24th, 2005, 10:00 AM
Yes, much is scripted but I'm not really sure how you can criticize Bruce choice of material. Since the reunion tour he's played in some form or another just about every song in his catalog including a large number of outtakes.
I think you want the ESB to become a jam band and while I love the idea of say a 17 minute version of Atlantic City I'm probably in the 1% of the paying audience that feels that way.
DSK
BronxDarren
Jun 24th, 2005, 10:06 AM
Well, I saw one show (CAA), and I kind of liked it, some great moments like the opening pump organ and Reason to Believe. Some bad moments like Matamoros Banks and dissapointing versions of Im on Fire, The River, etc. I'd see it again if I could get a ticket without a lot of drama, but Bruce solo simply doesn't come close to my interest in seeing the full band.
I don't begrudge Bruce doing something so artistically interesting, but I'd rather see something like, fun.
It's like wanting a fat porterhouse from Peter Luger's and getting a veggie burger and side salad.
thistrain9900
Jun 24th, 2005, 10:46 AM
I hope the solo tour continues throughout the year and he returns to Texas, Florida, and other markets barely played. These solo shows serve many purposes, for one they present the new material in a format most suited for appreciation. Also, Bruce seemed to personally enjoy the Tom Joad tour more so than any other as he was able to present the type of show that he wanted to present, not merely a greatest hits show or MTV Unplugged.
The E Street Band played 132 shows on the 1999-2000 Reunion tour, 120 shows on the 2002-2003 Rising Tour, and 7 shows on the 2004 Vote for Change Tour. Thats 259 shows in 6 years time, more than ample opportunity for anyone to see them.
Besides, even if they did get back together and tour soon, people would just complain about "Bobby Jean" or a tired version of "Thunder Road" all over again ;)
MeanGene
Jun 24th, 2005, 11:19 AM
Besides, even if they did get back together and tour soon, people would just complain about "Bobby Jean" or a tired version of "Thunder Road" all over again ;)
So true, so true... :roll:
Hoping to see two or three more solo shows myself before the band gets back together. It's apples and oranges and I happen to enjoy both! :p
Woodyj
Jun 24th, 2005, 01:22 PM
It's where his head is at this time of his life (which just happens to be this time of my life, your life, etc.). I look forward to the changes, the thinking outside of the box attitude. The shows I've seen have been displays of songwriting skills and musicianship -- they've been great! Just my .02 ... I'll embrace and enjoy this tour, and all the tours. The opportunities aren't always going to be there.
Studz on my Duds
Jun 24th, 2005, 02:00 PM
Even the audience itself becomes "scripted" in the sense that we all know to stand and pump our arms in the air during "Badlands," all the house lights come up during "BTR," etc. etc. It's mechanical.
It’s something I noticed on the Tunnel tour, and one reason I thought putting Bruce and the ESB on hiatus overall was a good move.
The "mechanical" segments you refer to are no more scripted than playing Devils and Dust and Reason to Believe in the opening segments, and closing the main set with The Hitter and Matamoros Banks.
Spontanaeity is seen all throughout the ESB tours- you are just pointing out the framework songs and criticizing structure
that would be required by any artist. If you want to look at examples of setlist diversity, both the Reunion tour and the Rising tour far exceeded any previous tours in terms of setlist
variation and evolution.
Classic examples of setlist diversity would include the 15 night
Jersey stand in 1999, Philly stand of 6 nights in '99 and even the 2003 Philly 3 nights including 46 differnt songs over 3 shows. That constitutes hunger in my opinion!!
So explain to me again how the current tour is spontaneous?
From first hand experience I can say I enjoyed the last two band tours as much as I enjoyed anything from the 70s through now. This tour leaves me bored.
catmandu
Jun 24th, 2005, 09:09 PM
I appreciated my one show this tour, but struggled to stay awake. I want an ESB tour. I really want a tour with a full horn section, spoiled as I am by going to two Holiday shows. I am one demanding son of a bitch. But then again, so is Mr. Springsteen, so I call it even, on many levels.
And Tom Cruise is an f-ing Loon to take on Matt Lauer. He should stick to confronting punks with squirt guns.
There, I said it. Where the hell did I leave my cocktail . . .
admiralkosmos
Jun 24th, 2005, 09:14 PM
I think you want the ESB to become a jam band and while I love the idea of say a 17 minute version of Atlantic City I'm probably in the 1% of the paying audience that feels that way.
DSK[/QUOTE]
Think of the Dave Matthews Band, my favorite jam band of pretty much the past 10 years. They could take Atlantic City and stretch out over years....so cool. But the E Street band are not that caliber of musicians (I mean that in a "chops" way and not a "feel" or a "power" way). But their strength is that they know how to play "Bruce Music" as Max has said and they have it programmed - they could very well take a moment, like those rare birds of Roy going off at the end of "Racing", and do something magical. "Magical" doesn't include 3 extra bars of the "Working on the Highway" strum, either. Music is --
God, music......
Wildbilly_01
Jun 24th, 2005, 11:48 PM
I love the band, of course, but have really enjoyed these shows. Most of the songs played have me entranced, and yes, I can't really relate to some of the songs like "Matamoras Banks" like I can some of the classics, but overall, this tour has plenty there for me.
And I'm sure that this board will be filled with lots of new complaints once the next Band tour occurs. "Why did he play this, why did he play that," etc etc, zzzzzzzzzzz.
On Highway 29
Jun 25th, 2005, 05:16 PM
The "mechanical" segments you refer to are no more scripted than playing Devils and Dust and Reason to Believe in the opening segments, and closing the main set with The Hitter and Matamoros Banks.
They're not scripted in the sense that we haven't seen these songs, except for RTB, played live before and they're new songs for the audience.
Spontanaeity is seen all throughout the ESB tours- you are just pointing out the framework songs and criticizing structure that would be required by any artist. If you want to look at examples of setlist diversity, both the Reunion tour and the Rising tour far exceeded any previous tours in terms of setlist variation and evolution.
I'm not saying the ESB tours haven't been spontanaeous or didn't have diverse setlists during the Reunion and Rising tours. What I'm trying to say is songs like Badlands, Promised Land, etc. that the ESB have been playing for years are so well known that nothing unexpected happens during the song. I'm not faulting Bruce for this. That's the way it goes when you have great songs that you play over and over for many years.
Classic examples of setlist diversity would include the 15 night Jersey stand in 1999, Philly stand of 6 nights in '99 and even the 2003 Philly 3 nights including 46 differnt songs over 3 shows. That constitutes hunger in my opinion!! So explain to me again how the current tour is spontaneous?
The current tour is different and I like the difference between this tour and the ESB band tours. I agree with you that the shows you list had a lot of setlist diversity; however, comparing those shows' setlists and the D&D tour setlist is comparing apples and oranges. The D&D tour is a different way for Bruce to present his songs.
This tour leaves me bored.
So be it. Because you're bored doesn't mean the tour is no good or that Bruce should pull the plug on this tour. One person't junk is another person's gold.
orthy
Jun 25th, 2005, 06:40 PM
I love the rarities, stuff that 7 years ago, even two years ago, we were in jeopardy of never hearing live again. Great stuff too, Fade Away, Wreck on the Highway, Stolen Car, Open all Night, Tougher, Used Cars, Reason to Believe, Two Faces, My Beautiful Reward, The Line, The Promise, Book of Dreams, Nebraska, Cautous Man, State Trooper, Highway Patrolman, Open All Night.
I mean, come on, over the past two tours he has played these songs a combined, what, 20 times.?? Now, two or three are popping up a night. The more I see the setlists unfold the more I'm convinced this tour is very memorable. Its like the Nebraska Tour; that should have been.
imabrucefan
Jun 25th, 2005, 07:22 PM
It's where his head is at this time of his life (which just happens to be this time of my life, your life, etc.). I look forward to the changes, the thinking outside of the box attitude. The shows I've seen have been displays of songwriting skills and musicianship -- they've been great! Just my .02 ... I'll embrace and enjoy this tour, and all the tours. The opportunities aren't always going to be there.
Exactly! These shows prove his genius to me all over again. I was just thinking the other day, about how thankful I am for all we have gotten from Bruce over the past 5 years or so. I have enjoyed every minute of it and relish every second I am at each show. You're right, the opportunity is not always going to be there, and when that day comes I will feel like a very important part of my life is over. That's sad to think about! Then I guess I won't be able to deny the fact any longer that I (and all of us) are getting older.
Studz on my Duds
Jun 25th, 2005, 09:45 PM
Because you're bored doesn't mean the tour is no good.
I actually like most of the record. I am even going to go to more shows. I have spent more time posting about what I don't like about this tour because I am amazed at how many people are praising these shows as if they were Bruce's best work. Actually I was thrilled to see him perform things like Iceman, Real World, Maria's Bed and Youngstown acoustic. I loved many moments of the shows I have seen. Promised land acoustic however is an absolute thud for me and I feel as the shows end on a terrible DOWN note. My overall impression of the shows have been negative walking out the door because they end so solemnly.
To say the tour was no good was not my intention. I love most of Bruce's work but cannot praise everything he does as genius.
Enjoy the tour while it lasts. Personally I hope to have rock and roll back by next summer.
Father Andrew
Jun 26th, 2005, 05:28 AM
Some interesting perspectives on this thread. I personally am torn as to whether or not he should bring in the band. While I count all those Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band shows that I've witnessed since converting in 1984 as some of the most exhilerating experiences of my life, I am immensely enjoying this current tour. I've only caught one show but it was exhilerating in a whole different light. I mean, here walks out Bruce Springsteen, the man who has pushed many of those in the audience to the limit and back during those exhilerating rock 'n' roll shows over the years and he's completely alone. No one to back him up, no safety net. I always looked at the E Street Band as a sort of band of brothers, sort of picking each other up, watching each other's backs. Without them, Bruce is taking a giant leap, there is no one to watch his back. To me it is a daring and exhilerating move for an artist to make (again) at this point in his long and illustrious career. So I'm torn. I love Bruce in either form so I'm not going to put down one over the other. I'll go no matter who is or isn't backing him. I mean, its Bruce.
On Highway 29
Jun 26th, 2005, 12:55 PM
You're right, the opportunity is not always going to be there, and when that day comes I will feel like a very important part of my life is over. That's sad to think about!
I think about it the same way, that a very important part of my life will be over when the opportunity to see Bruce isn't there any longer. Like you say, it's sad to think about because of the aging issue and to remember what Bruce's music has meant to me all through the years. It's so weird because it seems like just yesterday he was touring behind Darkness. God, where did the last 20+ years go?
On Highway 29
Jun 26th, 2005, 01:01 PM
I love most of Bruce's work but cannot praise everything he does as genius.
How dare you imply that Pony Boy isn't a work of genius! :roll:
BronxDarren
Jun 27th, 2005, 10:03 AM
Friday night at 7 pm & you're hopping in your car to go to a Bruce show. You can choose which show to go to - Bruce solo or Bruce and The ESB..... you're gonna pick the solo Bruce?!? Come on! Really??
I mean, I get it....."love the one you're with" and all the other stuff about accepting what you have and not wishing for what you want....enjoy Bruce solo better than no Bruce at all....but I'd rather go to a party (Bruce and the band) than a business conference where I need to think about what I'm learnng from the scheduled speaker (Bruce solo)
it's too damn serious and ponderous for me. how about a goddamned sing a long or something.
Karo
Jun 27th, 2005, 11:24 AM
Friday night at 7 pm & you're hopping in your car to go to a Bruce show. You can choose which show to go to - Bruce solo or Bruce and The ESB..... you're gonna pick the solo Bruce?!? Come on! Really??
Yes, I have seen the ESB about 40 times, Bruce solo once. This tour is so new and fresh to me. It helps that I really like D & D. I am going to Bridgeport and I guess when he adds a night in NJ or NY. Maybe after seeing a couple of more solo shows, I would then choose the ESB.
Kathy
Studz on my Duds
Jun 27th, 2005, 05:16 PM
Friday night at 7 pm & you're hopping in your car to go to a Bruce show. You can choose which show to go to - Bruce solo or Bruce and The ESB.....
I choose Bruce and the band! (surprised?) However,
I won't be waiting until 7PM to hop in my car! I'll be setting up my tailgate by noon! Stop by for a beverage! :funny:
BruceNut
Jun 27th, 2005, 05:30 PM
Friday night at 7 pm & you're hopping in your car to go to a Bruce show. You can choose which show to go to - Bruce solo or Bruce and The ESB.....
This is a no brainer. Its Bruce and the band. :D :D
I hate traffic so by 7pm Im on my 3rd burger and 2nd Absolute in the parking lot.
Beautiful Dorene
Jun 27th, 2005, 05:44 PM
....but I'd rather go to a party (Bruce and the band) than a business conference where I need to think about what I'm learnng from the scheduled speaker (Bruce solo)
I listen to enough scheduled speakers at business conferences all work year long. I need the party!!!!! I'll be in the parking lot, drink in one hand, hoagie in the other, listening to music and getting ready to rock it out that night! I have seen Bruce approx 18 times and I have seen him without the band more times than with the band. Call me out sick from the conference and bring me to the party!!! :D
dignd87
Jun 27th, 2005, 06:46 PM
Brucenut-
I've not had the pleasure of meeting you face-to-face but have read many, many of your threads. As such, I have to vehemently argue that if you were on your 3rd hamburger that you'd be on your 2nd Absolut. 2nd bottle perhaps, but seriously, just the 2nd drink??!!
Karo
Jun 27th, 2005, 07:46 PM
Brucenut-
I've not had the pleasure of meeting you face-to-face but have read many, many of your threads. As such, I have to vehemently argue that if you were on your 3rd hamburger that you'd be on your 2nd Absolut. 2nd bottle perhaps, but seriously, just the 2nd drink??!!
Yeah, he would be on his second Absolut. But, what he fails to say that it is in a 32 ounce cup.
Kathy
dhenise
Jun 28th, 2005, 05:26 AM
Yeah, he would be on his second Absolut. But, what he fails to say that it is in a 32 ounce cup.
Kathy
Ahhhhh ............ that explains it. ;)
BruceNut
Jun 28th, 2005, 07:16 AM
Brucenut-
I've not had the pleasure of meeting you face-to-face but have read many, many of your threads. As such, I have to vehemently argue that if you were on your 3rd hamburger that you'd be on your 2nd Absolut. 2nd bottle perhaps, but seriously, just the 2nd drink??!!
maybe the little travel bottles my co-pilots bring :)
but if I were on my 2nd liter Id be peeing in my pants fall down drunk on a golf cart being carried away. :)
Flory Days
Jun 28th, 2005, 08:53 AM
maybe the little travel bottles my co-pilots bring :)
but if I were on my 2nd liter Id be peeing in my pants fall down drunk on a golf cart being carried away. :)Unlike someone else we all know who does not mind those outcomes. :D :funny:
On Highway 29
Jun 29th, 2005, 12:19 PM
Friday night at 7 pm & you're hopping in your car to go to a Bruce show. You can choose which show to go to - Bruce solo or Bruce and The ESB..... you're gonna pick the solo Bruce?!? Come on! Really??
Bruce solo or Bruce and The ESB..... You're comparing apples and oranges.
To go along with your thinking...which show would you go to -- Bruce and ESB on the Darkness tour or Bruce and the ESB on The Rising tour?
BronxDarren
Jun 29th, 2005, 12:49 PM
"Bruce solo or Bruce and The ESB..... You're comparing apples and oranges.
To go along with your thinking...which show would you go to -- Bruce and ESB on the Darkness tour or Bruce and the ESB on The Rising tour?"
Actually, to stick with food for a second, I thought a Bruce solo/Bruce with the ESB comparison is like a Peter Luger's/veggie burger comparison and that is not at allan apples and oranges comparison. Apples and oranges can basically satisfy the same need, it just depends which fruit you prefer. Getting a veggie burger whne you want a porterhouse leaves you feeling empty and deprived and a little bit disorineted. Just like when you leave a Bruce solo show! :)
I think for most people out there, a Bruce solo show will simply not satisfy the basic needs that inspire one to go out to a concert..... I mean, I always thought you went to a show for a good time...to get some release from a shi**y job....you should feel drained......lose your voice...smell of spilled beer and lighter fluid.....
Of course, if you're really down to learn more about the plight of Mexican immigrants in the context of tuneless, unmemorable songs, well, I'm sure Bruce solo will fill you right up.
As far your second question, what could The Rising or reunion shows possibly have to offer that the Darkness shows didn't? On the Darkness tour, Bruce was more intense, the songs were faster, the band was tighter and better, the setlists were awesome, there was no LOHAD or Patti or Suzy or 17 guitarists on stage muddying up the sound, Bruce cared about the sound, and the venues were much smaller.
Now, maybe if you said that comparing the Main Point shows and the Piece de Resistance shows ere like apples and oranges, I'd probably agree.
BruceNut
Jun 29th, 2005, 01:31 PM
I think for most people out there, a Bruce solo show will simply not satisfy the basic needs that inspire one to go out to a concert.....
that is very true. Just look at the soft ticket sales.
young again
Jun 29th, 2005, 02:06 PM
I think for most people out there, a Bruce solo show will simply not satisfy the basic needs that inspire one to go out to a concert..... I mean, I always thought you went to a show for a good time...to get some release from a shi**y job....you should feel drained......lose your voice...smell of spilled beer and lighter fluid.....
It seems like *some* of the people (don't want to get flamed for overgeneralizing) who don't like the current tour assume that there is only one set of "basic needs" that get you out of the house to a show. Or that every show you go to has to be a rock concert. I didn't go into the one D&D show I've seen expecting a rock concert, and I liked it a whole lot more than a couple of the ESB shows I've seen. A sub-par ESB show will leave me more empty, deprived, and disoriented than a good solo show. A great ESB show, now that is another story...
Studz on my Duds
Jun 29th, 2005, 02:39 PM
As far your second question, what could The Rising or reunion shows possibly have to offer that the Darkness shows didn't? On the Darkness tour, Bruce was more intense, the songs were faster, the band was tighter and better, the setlists were awesome, there was no LOHAD or Patti or Suzy or 17 guitarists on stage muddying up the sound,
Disagree. The band only improved with age. The band played better when they got back together for the reunion tour than ever before. Max especially. The wall of guitars, Bruce, Steve, and Nils tore it up on songs like Murder Inc. and My Love Will not let you down. Loved the three guitars!
Suzie was a fantastic addition to the lineup and blew it out on songs like Johnny 99! Imagine what she will do on Maria's Bed. The setlist diversity was equally as stellar over the last two band tours! Fact.
imabrucefan
Jun 29th, 2005, 05:56 PM
Disagree. The band only improved with age. The band played better when they got back together for the reunion tour than ever before. Max especially. The wall of guitars, Bruce, Steve, and Nils tore it up on songs like Murder Inc. and My Love Will not let you down. Loved the three guitars!
Suzie was a fantastic addition to the lineup and blew it out on songs like Johnny 99! Imagine what she will do on Maria's Bed. The setlist diversity was equally as stellar over the last two band tours! Fact.
I absolutely agree with you. Listen to some old boots, then some new ones. The band is better than ever. The only thing that has suffered slightly is Bruce's voice, but hey, we can't stay young forever!
BronxDarren
Jul 1st, 2005, 12:49 AM
Wow, Studz and IMabrucefan,it's almost like you guys are writing from Bizarro world. i dont mean it as a dis, just that it's like you believe EXACTLY the opposite of what I do. I guess there's no explaining it.
and i understand not every show is a rock show, but if i'm gonna go hear a super quiet, intense educational performance, i'd rather go to a small venue where that kind of intimacy makes sense. not where i'm a quarter of mile from the singer. that's what happens when you try and have it both ways.
Studz on my Duds
Jul 1st, 2005, 05:10 AM
Bronx- I am never a quarter mile away from the stage. Maybe that is the difference in our experiences. To me the stadiums were no different than Convention Hall in terms of my proximity to Bruce. I watched the band from the railing of the pit or pressed close to the stage many nights in many venues. The band rocks harder than ever!
I am in no need of intimacy or quiet! Just wanna be where the band is! :funny:
Waiting in Parsippany
Jul 1st, 2005, 03:19 PM
I have been in the last row opposite endzone from stage at GS and it still is a great experience. Actually some of the electricity of a crowd that size can really be appreciated from the seats where the sound doesn't match the lips because you're so far away. Still beats solo in my mind.
WiP
BadlandsTake23
Jul 1st, 2005, 03:31 PM
Solo Bruce is like Pamela Anderson without make up. It's not as good as it should be. Bring back a band... doesn't even have to be E Street. Even a 3 or 4 member band playing acoustic instruments.
utahdesert
Jul 3rd, 2005, 07:41 PM
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I think for most people out there, a Bruce solo show will simply not satisfy the basic needs that inspire one to go out to a concert..... I mean, I always thought you went to a show for a good time...to get some release from a shi**y job....you should feel drained......lose your voice...smell of spilled beer and lighter fluid.....
Of course, if you're really down to learn more about the plight of Mexican immigrants in the context of tuneless, unmemorable songs, well, I'm sure Bruce solo will fill you right up.
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The solo show I saw at the Orpheum blew away both Fenway ESB shows.
Muddyemms
Jul 4th, 2005, 12:57 AM
Solo Bruce is like Pamela Anderson without make up. It's not as good as it should be. Bring back a band... doesn't even have to be E Street. Even a 3 or 4 member band playing acoustic instruments.
Heresy! Get the ESB back together . . . and pitch Soozie and Patty, IMHO. Strip down the sound. Don't use Danny and Roy so much in songs that they weren't in to begin with (Where The Bands Are, for example).
utahdesert
Jul 4th, 2005, 06:10 AM
Heresy! Get the ESB back together . . . and pitch Soozie and Patty, IMHO. Strip down the sound. Don't use Danny and Roy so much in songs that they weren't in to begin with (Where The Bands Are, for example).
IMO the band is bloated at this point. It ain't gonna happen but I'd ditch Patti, Soozie and either Nils or Stevie (Heresy!!) to clean it up and strip it down.
Studz on my Duds
Jul 4th, 2005, 11:32 AM
I say keep ALL the band members and add the miami horns and the gospel choir from Asbury Park. Include guest spots during the show with Southside Johnny and take the Christmas Shows on the road! :roll:
Waiting in Parsippany
Jul 4th, 2005, 06:39 PM
I will repeat for the umpteenth time
"Two guitars baby, bass and drums"
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utahdesert
Jul 5th, 2005, 02:39 PM
I say keep ALL the band members and add the miami horns and the gospel choir from Asbury Park. Include guest spots during the show with Southside Johnny and take the Christmas Shows on the road! :roll:
they're gonna need a bigger stage.
BruceNut
Jul 5th, 2005, 02:43 PM
they're gonna need a bigger stage.
though I think he was only half serious, they wouldnt need a bigger stage. The holiday show stsges were half the size smaller then the rising show stages.
They would need a bigger boat though ;) ;) ;)
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