Why are you Libs so Quiet this Morning?

[TIES2]

I would have expected with the President's speech last night that you libs would have been all over this board moaning and groaning....oh, wait, I forgot, you libs have to wait for the news media to analyze and summarize your position (so you can post the links) because there's precious few of you that have ever had an original thought in your life. :laugh:

[borntorun0102]

We're the working class. We have to work.

[Princemyshkin]

I would have expected with the President's speech last night that you libs would have been all over this board moaning and groaning....oh, wait, I forgot, you libs have to wait for the news media to analyze and summarize your position (so you can post the links) because there's precious few of you that have ever had an original thought in your life. :laugh:

Now that was original, stay up all night coming up with such fresh ideas? Hope you sleep better tonight

[On Highway 29]

I would have expected with the President's speech last night that you libs would have been all over this board moaning and groaning....oh, wait, I forgot, you libs have to wait for the news media to analyze and summarize your position (so you can post the links) because there's precious few of you that have ever had an original thought in your life. :laugh:

TIES2,
Whatever are we going to do with you? :cool:

1.) Where is all this money going to come from without any tax increases? Most likely, we're going to borrow it from China or elsewhere. Can our deficit get any bigger? Also, it's easy to throw out $$ figures. At one of his State of the Union speeches, he pledged $15 million to Africa to fight Aids. I read somewhere that only a fraction of that has been sent to Africa, and then only to organizations that preach abstinence. So I question how much of this N.O. $$$ will get to the actual victims.

2.) We need an independent investigation to look into what went wrong. An investigation with people appointed by GWB will be spin.

3.) He's right in saying that Americans don't deserve the kind of response residents in N.O. received. My question is: What has Homeland Security been doing for the last couple of years? Have they done any emergency planning/coordination, or have they been busy awarding contracts to their buddies?

4.) Why is Karl Rove the key money person on this? Definitely a conflict of interest.

5.) A real man would have had the courage to make his speech in front of an audience of people displaced from the hurricane. But his message wasn't intended for them. His message was intended for the rest of America because his poll numbers are dropping.

6.) Building trailers for people to live in? How safe are trailers in a huricane? The whole idea of an Urban Homesteading Act and having people apply to buy land and then their names are put in a lottery? There's something about this that doesn't sit with me.

7.) The hurricane victims have been sent all over the U.S. A lot of them don't know where family members are, and records weren't kept of where everyone was going. The optics remind me of slavery when black families were broken up and relatives had no idea where their relatives were.

8.) I need a ticket to Madison.
Chris

[myhometown]

Idiot may as well stayed on vacation.

[HeldUp]

While not a liberal (I'm all over the place, depending on the issue), I was quite impressed with Bush's speech. Unfortunately, he had more than TWO WEEKS to prepare for it. He should have given this speech on Sept 3...

A real shame. And a sham.

[TIES2]

Now that was original, stay up all night coming up with such fresh ideas? Hope you sleep better tonight


This is exactly the type of response I have come to expect from the libs..... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: And it's too bad you would need to stay up all night to generate three or four sentences :roll: :roll: :roll:

[TIES2]

TIES2,
Whatever are we going to do with you? :cool:

1.) Where is all this money going to come from without any tax increases? Most likely, we're going to borrow it from China or elsewhere. Can our deficit get any bigger? Also, it's easy to throw out $$ figures. At one of his State of the Union speeches, he pledged $15 million to Africa to fight Aids. I read somewhere that only a fraction of that has been sent to Africa, and then only to organizations that preach abstinence. So I question how much of this N.O. $$$ will get to the actual victims.

2.) We need an independent investigation to look into what went wrong. An investigation with people appointed by GWB will be spin.

3.) He's right in saying that Americans don't deserve the kind of response residents in N.O. received. My question is: What has Homeland Security been doing for the last couple of years? Have they done any emergency planning/coordination, or have they been busy awarding contracts to their buddies?

4.) Why is Karl Rove the key money person on this? Definitely a conflict of interest.

5.) A real man would have had the courage to make his speech in front of an audience of people displaced from the hurricane. But his message wasn't intended for them. His message was intended for the rest of America because his poll numbers are dropping.

6.) Building trailers for people to live in? How safe are trailers in a huricane? The whole idea of an Urban Homesteading Act and having people apply to buy land and then their names are put in a lottery? There's something about this that doesn't sit with me.

7.) The hurricane victims have been sent all over the U.S. A lot of them don't know where family members are, and records weren't kept of where everyone was going. The optics remind me of slavery when black families were broken up and relatives had no idea where their relatives were.

8.) I need a ticket to Madison.
Chris

typical lib wish-wash....

[TIES2]

While not a liberal (I'm all over the place, depending on the issue), I was quite impressed with Bush's speech. Unfortunately, he had more than TWO WEEKS to prepare for it. He should have given this speech on Sept 3...

A real shame. And a sham.

:rolleye2: :scratch: :rolleye2: :scratch: :rolleye2: :scratch:
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

:sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:

[Princemyshkin]

This is exactly the type of response I have come to expect from the libs..... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: And it's too bad you would need to stay up all night to generate three or four sentences :roll: :roll: :roll:


I get paid to stay up all night. :p :p :p
Tarik, you're correct day late and a dollar short as they say.

[Flory Days]

typical lib wish-wash....Typical conservative (non) reply............................and.............was this also for point #8 - need Madison tickets?

I need 2 Madison tix as well. :cool: :bulb: Now if you are going to reply in a meaningful way........help us with the tix. ;)

[On Highway 29]

typical lib wish-wash....

TIES2,
Prove that it's typical lib wish-wash...tell me specifically where the money will come from considering that we have already run up a huge deficit and that we're spending billions in Iraq.

[Flory Days]

TIES2,
Prove that it's typical lib wish-wash...tell me specifically where the money will come from considering that we have already run up a huge deficit and that we're spending billions in Iraq.Yes Ties2, what Chris said....... and while you're at it..................where will our Madison tickets come from?

[mhafinancial]

I would have expected with the President's speech last night that you libs would have been all over this board moaning and groaning....
Was too busy vomiting.

First, Bush did his best impression of a Democrat last night, willing to throw scores of billions of dollars at the problem. Difference is, he did not tell us how he would pay for it. That has been pointed out already in this thread.

When it comes to Bush, his actions clearly speak louder than his words. His first action in the wake of Katrina was to remove Davis-Bacon wages from contracts for the rebuilding. The executive suite at Halliburton and Bechtel were overcome with glee with the knowledge that those least able to afford a hit in the wallet - local workers - would be forced to take lower wages than would otherwise be the case. Now let me say that generally speaking, I am not a huge fan of Davis-Bacon. It is a huge problem in high wage areas, where those less experienced or less skilled might not be hired since a contractor is forced to pay top dollar for work. But in the New Orleans area, prevailing wage is a paltry $9.00 an hour, not $35 or $50 or more as in other areas of the country. So Bush will allow the Halliburtons to pay those most in need LESS than $9.00 for the work involved in rebuilding the area. It is sickening. When the Governor of Mississippi talks about shooting looters, is he referring only to the black folks taking food and TVs or whatever else it was, or might he also be talking about no-bid contracts and the executive suite at Halliburton?

When it comes to funding priorities, the Administration takes care of friends first, and where dollars are needed is an afterthought. In the first round of homeland security funding in 2003, when the memories of the smoking buildings were still relatively fresh, New York received 25 percent of the total of $100 million, which was divided among seven cities. By 2004 the city's share had dwindled to less than 7 percent, and the money was divided among fifty localities.

In 2003 New York City received $5.87 per person in Homeland Security funding. By contrast, Pittsburgh received $35.80 when pal Tom Ridge was still governor of Pennsylvania. Miami got $52.82 per person. Orlando gets $47.14. The Governor, of course, is the President's brother, and also the father of two kids with alcohol problems, proving again the apples don't fall far in the Bush family tree. Laughably, New Haven, Connecticut, home of Bush alma mater Yale received the highest funding per capita of $77.92 per person.

But I digress.

Karl Rove has about as much business overseeing the reconstruction efforts as Michael Brown did overseeing FEMA. He is a brilliant political strategist, party hack, treacherous dirty tricks bastid, granted, but to have him oversee the key and contracts to the biggest reconstruction since the Civil War? Puh-leeze.

Bush did not endorse a 9/11 bi-partisan commission on understanding what went wrong, and will eventually have to capitulate as he did with the 9/11 hearings. But why not endorse one now? Because he wants the Republicans in Congress to oversee the failings of a Republican administration. Ain't gonna happen Georgie, baby, just like it didn't the last time. BTW - go rent Serpico for a nice movie break this weekend. And about those Republicans in Congress -- 54 Republican Senators (that's every single one of the automatons) vote NO to to establish an independent, bipartisan panel patterned after the 9/11 Commission to investigate what went wrong with federal, state and local governments' response to Hurricane Katrina. What are they afraid of, eh?

And today the smirking chimp ruled out any tax increases to pay for Katrina (and Iraq, of course). So we can continue to rely on our good friend and ally the Chinese to continue to support our economy and spending spree. But watch out the minute they decide it is not in their best interest.

Great theater last night, but time will tell if the performance has legs.

[TIES2]

Was too busy vomiting.

First, Bush did his best impression of a Democrat last night, willing to throw scores of billions of dollars at the problem. Difference is, he did not tell us how he would pay for it. That has been pointed out already in this thread.

When it comes to Bush, his actions clearly speak louder than his words. His first action in the wake of Katrina was to remove Davis-Bacon wages from contracts for the rebuilding. The executive suite at Halliburton and Bechtel were overcome with glee with the knowledge that those least able to afford a hit in the wallet - local workers - would be forced to take lower wages than would otherwise be the case. Now let me say that generally speaking, I am not a huge fan of Davis-Bacon. It is a huge problem in high wage areas, where those less experienced or less skilled might not be hired since a contractor is forced to pay top dollar for work. But in the New Orleans area, prevailing wage is a paltry $9.00 an hour, not $35 or $50 or more as in other areas of the country. So Bush will allow the Halliburtons to pay those most in need LESS than $9.00 for the work involved in rebuilding the area. It is sickening. When the Governor of Mississippi talks about shooting looters, is he referring only to the black folks taking food and TVs or whatever else it was, or might he also be talking about no-bid contracts and the executive suite at Halliburton?

When it comes to funding priorities, the Administration takes care of friends first, and where dollars are needed is an afterthought. In the first round of homeland security funding in 2003, when the memories of the smoking buildings were still relatively fresh, New York received 25 percent of the total of $100 million, which was divided among seven cities. By 2004 the city's share had dwindled to less than 7 percent, and the money was divided among fifty localities.

In 2003 New York City received $5.87 per person in Homeland Security funding. By contrast, Pittsburgh received $35.80 when pal Tom Ridge was still governor of Pennsylvania. Miami got $52.82 per person. Orlando gets $47.14. The Governor, of course, is the President's brother, and also the father of two kids with alcohol problems, proving again the apples don't fall far in the Bush family tree. Laughably, New Haven, Connecticut, home of Bush alma mater Yale received the highest funding per capita of $77.92 per person.

But I digress.

Karl Rove has about as much business overseeing the reconstruction efforts as Michael Brown did overseeing FEMA. He is a brilliant political strategist, party hack, treacherous dirty tricks bastid, granted, but to have him oversee the key and contracts to the biggest reconstruction since the Civil War? Puh-leeze.

Bush did not endorse a 9/11 bi-partisan commission on understanding what went wrong, and will eventually have to capitulate as he did with the 9/11 hearings. But why not endorse one now? Because he wants the Republicans in Congress to oversee the failings of a Republican administration. Ain't gonna happen Georgie, baby, just like it didn't the last time. BTW - go rent Serpico for a nice movie break this weekend. And about those Republicans in Congress -- 54 Republican Senators (that's every single one of the automatons) vote NO to to establish an independent, bipartisan panel patterned after the 9/11 Commission to investigate what went wrong with federal, state and local governments' response to Hurricane Katrina. What are they afraid of, eh?

And today the smirking chimp ruled out any tax increases to pay for Katrina (and Iraq, of course). So we can continue to rely on our good friend and ally the Chinese to continue to support our economy and spending spree. But watch out the minute they decide it is not in their best interest.

Great theater last night, but time will tell if the performance has legs.

Ah, I see you did have to wait for the pundits to provide your analysis...and also to prove that you libs just love to whine and whine and whine...

[mhafinancial]

Actually, like some of the others, I had real work to attend to.

But apparently not many across the U.S. felt it was full of truth and sincerity, as Rasmussen Reports showed a drop in those who felt Bush was doing a good or excellent job on Katrina from 39% before the speech to 35% afer. I guess most of just us felt he was full of something else, dear.