The Raw discussion thread.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I don't even get to watch it regularly, but I have a lot of knowledge about the wrestlers so I think I can comment on it at least. There is a show which recaps Raw;I may be able to see it.

[boykrazee_201]

RAW is getting better. The storylines are good. The Cena/Edge/HHH angle is good. What you think?

[Stopanimalabuse]

RAW is getting better. The storylines are good. The Cena/Edge/HHH angle is good. What you think?
I'm thinking the triple-threat match at Backlash will be good, but I think a lot of people will be tired of them wrestling if they continue to have these 2-on-1 matches.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Rob Van Dam vs. Shelton Benjamin should be a great match if given the right amount of time. I can see Van Dam being a main event wrestler, but I think Benjamin will be a great mid-card wrestler but not much more than that. I'm hoping that Van Dam wins their match.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Backlash hasn't received the best reviews from what I have read. I really thought Van Dam vs. Benjamin could have been a classic, but no reviews have rated it that high. I'm glad Van Dam won. I guess Trish had her shoulder dislocated early on, so you shouldn't expect that match to be quite as good as they could have given. It is a bit dissappointing to see Ric Flair squashed to Umaga. Even at this age, I still think Flair can be a decent draw.

[Stopanimalabuse]

What is happening regarding the announcers? Is Jim Ross the lead announcer again?

[Stopanimalabuse]

There's talk that D-Generation X will be reunited. I just hope they don't bring the name back as well. I don't think that would excite the viewing audience.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Foley's turn would be considered the highlight of the show. They are obviously pushing for Edge/Foley vs. Dreamer/Funk at the ECW PPV. Putting Edge on that card doesn't make any sense to me.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'm surprised that Van Dam challenged Cena to a match. I had thought they would move him to Smackdown! and challenge Misterio. I wish they had kept it an all-ECW show, but that certainly won't be the case.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I guess they're having a new General Manager, who will be announced on Raw this week.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'm not sure where they're going with the new Kane angle. I am glad to see they made the announcement of Angle going to ECW. They're promoting it properly on Raw so I think that will help the promotion.

[JoviFan]

My son and husband have tickets to the live raw june 5th in pittsburgh as soon as we heard they were coming and Cena was coming my son had to go.

[Briansbabyduck]

I love MONDAY NIGHT RAW :) 2 of my favorites are one there:
John Cena and Shawn Michaels I really wish Randy Orton was on there too but oh well and now since yesterday Johnny Nitro is on Raw too :) 3 hot men on one show my favorite-cant wait for Raw to come back to Buffalo :)

[JoviFan]

The other one i wish was on raw is Batista i cannot wait til he comes back to smackdown should be anytime now. God that man is hott.

[Stopanimalabuse]

My son and husband have tickets to the live raw june 5th in pittsburgh as soon as we heard they were coming and Cena was coming my son had to go.
I hope you have a great time. Raw seems a lot more exciting than the normal house shows they have.

[JoviFan]

yeah he can't wait. this will be his 5 live show and they are better then house shows.

[Stopanimalabuse]

yeah he can't wait. this will be his 5 live show and they are better then house shows.
Have you ever been to a live Raw taping? I went to one in late-1998 and I loved it.

[JoviFan]

No all the Raw we went to have been Monday night Raw except for one back in December 2 days after christmas.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'm confused as to why Orton appeared on Raw. Is he on Raw now regularly?

[Stopanimalabuse]

No all the Raw we went to have been Monday night Raw except for one back in December 2 days after christmas.
Do they still have those long waits during commercial breaks?

[JoviFan]

I'm confused as to why Orton appeared on Raw. Is he on Raw now regularly?
Wednesday night is a ECW vs Raw thing i'm not sure if it is pay per view or not.

[JoviFan]

Do they still have those long waits during commercial breaks?
Yeah but sometimes people will come out and talk. Don't know if you seen it last night but Lillian my husband thinks broke her arm. She was accidentialy thrown from the ring when someone came running in and hit the ropes and it threw her off of the rink and according to my husband she was out for a good 2 or 3 minutes and he said when she came too her arm looked broke.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Yeah but sometimes people will come out and talk. Don't know if you seen it last night but Lillian my husband thinks broke her arm. She was accidentialy thrown from the ring when someone came running in and hit the ropes and it threw her off of the rink and according to my husband she was out for a good 2 or 3 minutes and he said when she came too her arm looked broke.
Are you referring to Lillian Garcia?

[JoviFan]

Are you referring to Lillian Garcia?
Yeah her but it's not broken at least that what was said on wwe.com

[GhettoPirate]

Batista is comin back soon. And I cant wait. Last time I seen, on wwe.com they had a batista countdown clock and it was at 30 days.

that Randy Orton thing. Who knows. It would be interesting to have him on Raw, but ya never know. Maybe he was just doing a runin or somthing.

DX returning. THAT is what I cant wait for. Each time Vince does somthing I keep sayin this is it....DX will come back tonight. Ok so we got HBK and HHH. Who else would they get into it? Isnt everyone else whos in it over at TNA now?

[Stopanimalabuse]

DX returning. THAT is what I cant wait for. Each time Vince does somthing I keep sayin this is it....DX will come back tonight. Ok so we got HBK and HHH. Who else would they get into it? Isnt everyone else whos in it over at TNA now?
I hear these rumors that X-Pac is returning, but is there any reason to believe that's true? I would think that, if they brought DX back and it was the old members, it would turn people off. They need to have new members rather than bringing older members back, but it could attract an audience if it's done properly.

[JoviFan]

Batista is comin back soon. And I cant wait. Last time I seen, on wwe.com they had a batista countdown clock and it was at 30 days.

that Randy Orton thing. Who knows. It would be interesting to have him on Raw, but ya never know. Maybe he was just doing a runin or somthing.

DX returning. THAT is what I cant wait for. Each time Vince does somthing I keep sayin this is it....DX will come back tonight. Ok so we got HBK and HHH. Who else would they get into it? Isnt everyone else whos in it over at TNA now?
As of today it is 27 days, lol. My daughter is in love with Batista and Cena.

[GhettoPirate]

Batista is awesome. He looks REAL good in a suit!!

DX...I cant wait. Even if they did bring back Sean Waltman (XPac, 123 Kid) I dont think it would be the same. I cant tolerate looking at him now that Ive seen he has a porno out with him and Chyna in it. And his little appearance on the Surreal Life just killed it for me.
Maybe HBK and HHH could get some new members. That would be interesting to see where they take it. I know I watch Raw every week hoping to hear that base beat kick in and see the pulse flash on the jumbo tron. they were SO cool to see live! Ill just have to keep an eye out.

While were speaking of DX here...whats everyones fave segment involving them??

[JoviFan]

Batista is awesome. He looks REAL good in a suit!!

DX...I cant wait. Even if they did bring back Sean Waltman (XPac, 123 Kid) I dont think it would be the same. I cant tolerate looking at him now that Ive seen he has a porno out with him and Chyna in it. And his little appearance on the Surreal Life just killed it for me.
Maybe HBK and HHH could get some new members. That would be interesting to see where they take it. I know I watch Raw every week hoping to hear that base beat kick in and see the pulse flash on the jumbo tron. they were SO cool to see live! Ill just have to keep an eye out.

While were speaking of DX here...whats everyones fave segment involving them??
When Batista was in Pittsburgh last we went and seen the show and after the show my daughter and I went around back and there was a kid between her and Batista in a suit my daughter could of died. He is so big. She was in heaven. She says she wants to come back as his tattoo around his belly button. :o :roll:

[GhettoPirate]

Classic!

Yano who I think looks good with tatoos? Randy Orton. I was SLIGHLY more than annoyed when he first got to the WWE. I got tired of seeing him talkin on the mic and tellin everyone he was "doin real good....almost 97% now!" But with every tatoo he gets he seems more apealing than he did before.

Batista looks like during his injury time outs he should be doing Armani modeling or somthing to that effect.

[Stopanimalabuse]

DX...I cant wait. Even if they did bring back Sean Waltman (XPac, 123 Kid) I dont think it would be the same. I cant tolerate looking at him now that Ive seen he has a porno out with him and Chyna in it. And his little appearance on the Surreal Life just killed it for me.
Maybe HBK and HHH could get some new members. That would be interesting to see where they take it. I know I watch Raw every week hoping to hear that base beat kick in and see the pulse flash on the jumbo tron. they were SO cool to see live! Ill just have to keep an eye out.

While were speaking of DX here...whats everyones fave segment involving them??
I've never seen the video with Chyna and X-Pac. If they are pushing Michaels and Triple H as a babyface(good guy) group, I can't see them becoming the kind of group that takes over a company. They may be smarter to push them as the heels. As long as they put new members in the group, I could see it doing very well. I don't have cable so I haven't seen all of their segments, but I'd have to say that the interview they had backstage where they were talking about what they wouldn't do(and were doing pretty much everything they said they wouldn't) was the best segment. It was during one of the first two months or so that DX had formed.

[Stopanimalabuse]

When Batista was in Pittsburgh last we went and seen the show and after the show my daughter and I went around back and there was a kid between her and Batista in a suit my daughter could of died. He is so big. She was in heaven. She says she wants to come back as his tattoo around his belly button. :o :roll:
Is he considered a sex symbol? I wouldn't look at Batista that way, but it seems that a lot of female fans like him a lot.

[JoviFan]

Is he considered a sex symbol? I wouldn't look at Batista that way, but it seems that a lot of female fans like him a lot.
Yes the man is hott.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Yes the man is hott.
Is it his muscles?

[JoviFan]

Is it his muscles?
He has wonderful muscles but god his face he's a greek god and yes he is greek.

[GhettoPirate]

I dunno about the entire sez symbol thing....but he could be a model if he wanted to!! *nods* Yes he could!

DX....two words come to mind. BOUT TIME! I thought it woulda went different than it did on Raw. But its about time they got back together. That was like the worst kept secret of all times. If it even WAS a secret.

My fave DX segment? On the video they put out they did this entire "Operation DX" thing where they invaded WCW. It was sooo funny. They were all dresed in camo and Billy Gunn was hiding in bushes. Then they showed up to the place where WCW held an event. They drew more of a crowd than WCW did. I was laughing so hard. After that though they decided to try and find WCW headquarters....and when they finally found it it looked like a run down doctors office. HHH was like "This is it? Oh your kidding me??? This is where the big boys play?" Good stuff.

Now Im feeling all sentimental...haha...Im gonna go watch that tape!

[JoviFan]

Well my son is really ticked off because of Edge screwing up John Cena and he lost his title however he is happy that a new Cena has emerged from all of this a very ruthless nasty Cena and it's about time. He's supposed to go over to ECW tonight on the sci-fi channel and according to Cena do whatever the hell he wants. Should be good.

Yes Batista is a fine man. Esp. in a suit good god.

[JoviFan]

One other note me and my son was in the mall today and walked past hot topic and we never go in there and in the window were wwe t-shirts my son caught them out of the corner of his eye and went nuts so we went inside he bought the RKO shirt and a Eddie Guerriro and i know i spelled that wrong. But they were only $22.00 each and online they are $25.00 plus shipping they also had the new Cena one but he already has that one and the new HHH one and a Ray Misterio one too.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Is "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan back? I guess he wrestled on Raw. They should stop doing this cross-promotion garbage. ECW wrestlers don't belong on Raw and Raw wrestlers don't belong on ECW shows. They appear desperate when they do something like that.

[Stopanimalabuse]

My fave DX segment? On the video they put out they did this entire "Operation DX" thing where they invaded WCW. It was sooo funny. They were all dresed in camo and Billy Gunn was hiding in bushes. Then they showed up to the place where WCW held an event. They drew more of a crowd than WCW did. I was laughing so hard. After that though they decided to try and find WCW headquarters....and when they finally found it it looked like a run down doctors office. HHH was like "This is it? Oh your kidding me??? This is where the big boys play?" Good stuff.
I remember that. Though I've only seen portions of it on a D-Generation X tape. What happened at the end?

[Stopanimalabuse]

only $22.00 each
That is cheaper than a lot of other T-shirts these days, but doesn't it cost only a few dollars to make a T-shirt?

[Stopanimalabuse]

It's been announced that Goldust was released. I think that's the fourth time he has left the company.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'm surprised at how much they are pushing the Spirit Squad. They just don't come across as main eventers to me, but I could still see them being pushed. DX is again resorting to their immature ways in the storylines;I wouldn't be surprised if they're turned heel soon.

[Briansbabyduck]

I cant wait cuz July 23rd Raw is coming here and im gonna go and try to meet Hottie Randy and John and I wouldnt mind meeting Shawn Michaels again :) and i am definitly gonna meet Johnny Nitro cuz hes a hottie and hes gonna be signing autographs somewhere before the show :)

[suzanne]

They JUST made HHH a face they are not going to turn him heel again this quick. DX isn't going to be around long enough for them to go from face to heel.

[Stopanimalabuse]

They JUST made HHH a face they are not going to turn him heel again this quick. DX isn't going to be around long enough for them to go from face to heel.
They did turn Kane face and then heel within a few weeks. I think that was 1998. They could do the same thing with Triple H as well.

[suzanne]

They are not going to turn HHH heel again until after DX is done.

[Stopanimalabuse]

They are not going to turn HHH heel again until after DX is done.
Weren't they mooning somebody on Raw? I would think that kind of an action would make them heels, but, with people like Steve Austin who are babyfaces, I could definitely be wrong.

[suzanne]

They moved Randy Orton to fued with HHH after the DX is done.

[Stopanimalabuse]

They moved Randy Orton to fued with HHH after the DX is done.
So DX won't last very long as a group?

[suzanne]

NO HBK is injured and need surgery, I believe it will only go thru Summer Slam.

[Stopanimalabuse]

NO HBK is injured and need surgery, I believe it will only go thru Summer Slam.
That makes sense. Do you receive a wrestling newsletter like Pro Wrestling Torch for your information? I go to one news site, but it doesn't give too much information. What are the best wrestling news sites to go to?

[suzanne]

No I go to http://www.4w-wrestling.com/indexmain.php for my info.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Vengeance has been given mixed reviews. It's disappointing that Cena-Sabu wasn't given more time and I think Sabu should have won the match. I guess Carlito is considered the MVP of the pay-per-view.

[Stopanimalabuse]

No I go to http://www.4w-wrestling.com/indexmain.php for my info.
Thanks. An annoying pop-up came up almost as soon as I went in there, but it looks like a good site.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Last week or the week before, Umaga wrestled Jim Duggan. Now it's Kamala? They'd be better off putting him against the main eventers rather than legends. They're years past their prime, so it doesn't make him look good.

Another Diva search. How exciting.:o

[JoviFan]

Batista is back....

Last night at a SmackDown! house show, the main event featured Mark Henry and Finlay taking on the team of World Heavyweight Champion Rey Mysterio and the returning Dave Batista. Rey Mysterio would hit the frog splash to win the match, but after the match, Batista was carrying around the title and acted like he wasn't going to give it back to Mysterio. Batista held the belt out to the ref and when the ref tried to grab it he jerked it away. Batista faced the crowd and held the belt up and the crowd cheered. Mysterio and Batista got face to face and Batista finally gave Mysterio a hug and gave him his belt back. Seemed kind of like a way to see what reaction the crowd would give to Batista turning heel to me. Could they be considering turning him heel to face Mysterio?

http://www.4w-wrestling.com/fullreport.php?articleId=6599

[suzanne]

They have to put him against the legends so it make him look good. He is not ready for the main eventers yet.

Yes he will be facing Mysterio but I don't know about turning him heel.

[JoviFan]

What you think Mark Henry is not a main eventer the man is so big. And he is the one who hurt Batista so. Yeah he will face Mysterio and will prolly win too many people like him. I also look for them to do away with smackdown and combine then all and just have raw the ratings for smackdown are always low compared to raw. Batista will do fine if he wasn't ready to come back he wouldn't i'm sure the man has been working out like crazy and he looks good.

[Stopanimalabuse]

They have to put him against the legends so it make him look good. He is not ready for the main eventers yet.
If he is on one of their biggest shows, the league must think he is ready. It just seems very repetitive at this point.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I also look for them to do away with smackdown and combine then all and just have raw the ratings for smackdown are always low compared to raw.
I haven't been paying attention to the ratings too much lately, but the show has been given a spot on that new station for next season. I don't see the show leaving unless ratings slip to around 1-1.5.

[JoviFan]

Just seems to me that the rating have dropped we will see. My son doesn't even watch smackdown anymore but now that Batista is back he just said he can't wait to see him so he'll be watching. They have moved Orton to Raw too and the big show to ecw also Angle has been moved to ecw also. Seems like they are losing alot of people thats all.

[suzanne]

Mark Henry is a main eventer but he shouldn't be because he sucks.

Smackdown is not going anywhere.

They may think that but they would be wrong.

The rating have dropped but that has more to do with the show being prempted alot which won't happen nearly as much on the new network.

If it goes away it won't be Vince's choice it will be the CW network's choice.

They have lost alot of people on Smackdown but I believe most of them will be back once they are switches to the CW network in September.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Just seems to me that the rating have dropped we will see. My son doesn't even watch smackdown anymore but now that Batista is back he just said he can't wait to see him so he'll be watching. They have moved Orton to Raw too and the big show to ecw also Angle has been moved to ecw also. Seems like they are losing alot of people thats all.
Well, with Benoit, Ken Kennedy, Finlay, Booker, Misterio, and Regal, I think they have better wrestlers than Raw honestly. I'm also glad to see Boogeyman not wrestling on the show lately. Why doesn't your son watch it anymore?

[JoviFan]

Well, with Benoit, Ken Kennedy, Finlay, Booker, Misterio, and Regal, I think they have better wrestlers than Raw honestly. I'm also glad to see Boogeyman not wrestling on the show lately. Why doesn't your son watch it anymore?
His fave's are Cena and Batista and well Batista was not on for the longest and he just didn't watch it. But now that he is back he will. He was watching for awhile then Orton went to Raw and Angle went to ECW so yeah he doesn't watch that much. I couldn't stand the Boogeyman at all glad he is gone. He just likes the Raw line up better. He is the biggest Cena fan there is. That's all the stuff he buys but now that Batista is back he will buy his stuff too. He recently bought a RKO shirt he likes Orton too.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I heard the price of a Pay-Per-View increased to $40. That's just ridiculous, especially when you consider that people have not been too happy with their shows lately. I think that will cause less people to buy their shows so they'll lose money even at a higher price.

[JoviFan]

yeah we just paid 39.99 for whatever that last event was sunday.

[Stopanimalabuse]

yeah we just paid 39.99 for whatever that last event was sunday.
So that is true? I can't believe it. Especially if oil prices reach the point they are expected to by the end of the Summer, I don't know how they expect people to be able to afford prices like that.

[JoviFan]

So that is true? I can't believe it. Especially if oil prices reach the point they are expected to by the end of the Summer, I don't know how they expect people to be able to afford prices like that.
We don't get everyone anymore we use to but with the price of cable alone then payperview well it's getting out of control. My son picks the most important ones to watch and well there is always monday night raw which they recap everything that happened anyways.

[Stopanimalabuse]

The title change was very predictable considering the circumstances. This should change the main event on Saturday Night's Main Event. I'm still not sure what the point of the Lita-Torrie Wilson match was.

[Stopanimalabuse]

We don't get everyone anymore we use to but with the price of cable alone then payperview well it's getting out of control. My son picks the most important ones to watch and well there is always monday night raw which they recap everything that happened anyways.
I would assume a lot of other families are doing the same. It can't be good for the buyrates of the shows.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I realize I ask a lot of questions. Jim Duggan has appeared on Raw at least twice. Is he now a full-time wrestler? I can't find his picture on wwe.com.

[JoviFan]

No he's not a full time wrestler. Hulk Hogan is coming back to wwe on saturday night main event. Something to do with his daughter and orton him having a crush on her. Batista and his wife have seperated also. Just some news. Cena is supposed to team up with DX we will have to see if that is true.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It makes sense to bring Hogan in around this time, especially with Michaels planning for surgery soon. I would assume this will lead to Hogan's last match at Wrestlemania.

I'm happy to see Shelton Benjamin being pushed. I think he'll be a main event draw within 2 years.

[JoviFan]

From what i am reading it's a one time thing to push Brooke's music career but you never no. Time will tell.

[JoviFan]

As things stand now, Hulk Hogan will be winning his match with Randy Orton at Summerslam. Of course, that could change at the snap of a finger.

It should be noted that Hogan has creative control in both his match finishes and in storylines.

Found that on:http://www.wrestleattitude.com/home/
interesting.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'm not sure how to react to that match. I will say that Hogan has done as much for wrestling as anybody, so he does deserve a retirement match. Austin would be the ideal opponent.

How do your children think about Hulk Hogan?

[JoviFan]

Well Hogan is going to wrestle Orton or so it's looks like it. My son adores Hogan you can't say anything bad about him.

[suzanne]

Who said anything about this being a retirement match? Vince is still trying to get him in a match with Austin for WrestleMania.

[JoviFan]

Yeah i never read anywhere about him retiring. And Wrestlemania is like a year away.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Who said anything about this being a retirement match? Vince is still trying to get him in a match with Austin for WrestleMania.
That is what I was referring to. Austin and Hogan are considered the two biggest draws in wrestling history, so it would make sense for them to wrestle at Wrestlemania. I thought they were pushing for that last year. What happened?

[JoviFan]

I really don't know never heard why it didn't happen but since Hogan has total control over everything he does maybe it was him.

[suzanne]

This is the 3rd WrestleMainia that Vince has tried to get that match for. Hogan won't lay down for Austin so thats why it hasn't happened.

[Stopanimalabuse]

This is the 3rd WrestleMainia that Vince has tried to get that match for. Hogan won't lay down for Austin so thats why it hasn't happened.
If it's Hogan's retirement match, he should obviously be the winner. It's ridiculous that they would book Austin as the winner. Maybe a draw would be the best decision, but that match will be a huge ratings draw.

[JoviFan]

But i have never heard anything about a retirement match. I don't think Hogan is going to call anything a retirement match i think he likes coming as he pleases.

[suzanne]

The reason Hogan should loose is because he is older that is how it is supposed to be done and would be if it wasn't for Hogan's massive ego.

[JoviFan]

Just because he is older doesn't mean he should lose.

[Stopanimalabuse]

But i have never heard anything about a retirement match. I don't think Hogan is going to call anything a retirement match i think he likes coming as he pleases.
He's probably around 50 by now;there's no doubt he'll have a retirement at some point soon. It would be much better for the company than to retire otherwise.

[JoviFan]

Yes he is in his 50"s but with all these older wrestlers coming and going as they please i think that's what he likes to do. Is it smart i dunno he has had knee replacements and i think maybe a hip replacement. At some point you have to retire but i don't see it anytime soon. On one of his episodes of Hogan knows best his daughter said something about him retiring and he looked at her and said "I don't think so" as long as i am able i will come and go as i please. So who knows. But this latest stunt is just to push his daughter singing career.

[suzanne]

This is the only match they want Hogan to do. They have other matches they would like Austin to do.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'll change the subject a little bit, but what has happened with the Rock? I haven't heard anything about movies he has done, and I don't believe he will be wrestling anytime soon. Yet he is on their roster still.

[JoviFan]

Haven't heard anything myself about the Rock at least anything to do with wrestling. We bought the movie DOOM with him in it and it is really good. He looks great in it. I wish he would come back and wrestle but i have my doubts.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It's good to see Umaga finally being pushed against the top-tier wrestlers. There are a lot of people who don't like him, but at least they would be pushing different wrestlers.

[JoviFan]

It was finally been reported about the Hogan vs. Austin match for next years wrestlemania they are trying to get it in writing but as of right now neither will sign.

Also Randy Orton's grandfather passed away this past weekend.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It was finally been reported about the Hogan vs. Austin match for next years wrestlemania they are trying to get it in writing but as of right now neither will sign.

Also Randy Orton's grandfather passed away this past weekend.
That's sad to hear. That's odd that there is a site I go on and I don't remember hearing about that.

It's ridiculous that they wouldn't sign. They should realize the money this could bring in for the company;they're being very selfish.

[JoviFan]

Bob Orton Sr. Passes Away
17 Jul 2006 by Feras Ballout
Source: PWInsider

Everyone here at this site is sad to report that Bob Orton Sr., father of Cowboy Bob Orton and grandfather of current WWE star Randy Orton tragically passed away this past Friday following a heart attack at the age of 77.

Everyone on this siste would like to send our condolences to the Orton family, Orton's friends and fans during this sad time.

Major *SPOILER* On Hulk Hogan/Randy Orton Plans
17 Jul 2006 by Matt Boone
Credit: WrestlingObserver.com Newsletter

As things currently stand, the upcoming Randy Orton-Hulk Hogan program is scheduled to culminate with a big match at the WWE SummerSlam pay-per view, with Hogan getting the win.

That could and will change a lot from now until then, but that's how things are lined up now. However things turn out, they'll pretty much have to be agreed upon by Hogan.

The Rock's rehab from his achilles tendon surgery is ahead of schedule and he is expected to start shooting "Game Plan" on 9/25 as originally scheduled.

Mark Henry Undergoes Surgery, Out 8 Months
18 Jul 2006 by Ryan Clark
Mark Henry Undergoes Surgery, Out 8 Months

Tuesday afternoon in Birmingham, Alabama, Dr. James Andrews performed surgery on Mark Henry to repair the knee injury Henry suffered in a Six-Man Tag Team Match at Saturday Night’s Main Event.

Following the surgery, WWE doctor Ferdinand Rios spoke with Dr. Andrews, who revealed the full extent of Henry’s injury; Henry tore his patella tendon completely off the bone, and also split his patella (kneecap) completely in two.

Henry’s surgery was successful, but the timeframe for his recovery is unknown. The optimistic prognosis is that he will miss about eight months.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Obviously if Hogan has all the say, he'll win the match at Summerslam. I believe Henry's contract expires soon;do they plan on signing him when he's out?

[JoviFan]

Yes Hogan has a say as to if he wins or not he has always had a say. It's in his contract. As for Henry i don't know if they plan on signing him but he is out for at least 6 to 8 months.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Jerry Lawler is supposed to be sending out the first pitch to the Indians' game today. It would be interesting to see whether they cheer him or not.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It's good to see Nitro being pushed in the main event. Umaga vs. Michaels is a sign that they are starting to push him, but I'm not sure how wrestling fans will react to that.

[JoviFan]

Stephanie McMann and Tripple H gave birth to a baby girl monday night they named the little girl Aurora. Hope i spelled that right. lol This is the reason Vince & Triple H were not on Raw monday night.

[suzanne]

I wouldn't base pushes on this weeks show because they had to change things because of Stephanie McMahon having her baby.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Well even if Nitro is not being pushed in the main events, it's good to see him at least receiving a push. It doesn't appear that Mercury is receiving a push but I have heard that he'll likely be wrestling in ECW sometime soon. I'm happy for Stephanie and Triple H. Is that their first child?

[suzanne]

YES it is.

Joey (Mercury) Mathews was suspended and is currently in rehab thats why you haven't seen him. When he comes back he probably will be in ECW again.

[suzanne]

YES it is.

Joey (Mercury) Mathews was suspended and is currently in rehab thats why you haven't seen him. When he comes back he probably will be in ECW again.

[Stopanimalabuse]

YES it is.

Joey (Mercury) Mathews was suspended and is currently in rehab thats why you haven't seen him. When he comes back he probably will be in ECW again.
What was he suspended for? It seems like a large amount of wrestlers are being suspended. I'm going to have to read more from the link you gave me;the news site I go on doesn't cover too many of these stories.

[JoviFan]

I believe for either drug use or steroids. Cannot remember which one.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It looks like Trish isn't planning on resigning in September. I think she has lost popularity over the years, so I'm not sure how many people would miss her.

[suzanne]

For drug use that is why he is in rehab.

The Trish as of now is just speculation, I would miss her her because they need to keep the women that can actually wrestle.

[suzanne]

For drug use that is why he is in rehab.

The Trish as of now is just speculation, I would miss her her because they need to keep the women that can actually wrestle.

[JoviFan]

It looks like Trish isn't planning on resigning in September. I think she has lost popularity over the years, so I'm not sure how many people would miss her.
It's not because she lost popularity she is getting married to her long time boyfriend. My son would greatly miss her. He says "Trish could turn a gay man straight". lol

[Stopanimalabuse]

It's not because she lost popularity she is getting married to her long time boyfriend. My son would greatly miss her. He says "Trish could turn a gay man straight". lol
Yeah, I guess she has saved up enough money that they won't have money problems in the future. Maybe it's just a few people, but I think she was considered much sexier when she first came in than she has been recently. Maybe it's the way she dresses. I don't think she's too great of a wrestler either.

[suzanne]

She is probably the best female wrestler they have.

They assume that if she leaves it will be to try acting.

[Stopanimalabuse]

She is probably the best female wrestler they have.

They assume that if she leaves it will be to try acting.
I guess that is opinion. I thought Mickie was generally considered their best wrestlers.

I'm not sure where to put this, but Monty Brown may be headed to the WWE. I don't get to watch TNA, so I don't know much about him.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'm sorry but Vince and Shane don't belong in a match at Summerslam. It's unfair to other wrestlers who should have a spot at the show. It's understandable that he would be involved with Steve Austin as that did help the Federation greatly, but for him to do that now makes him look very arrogant.

[JoviFan]

Well he owns the Wwe so he can do whatever he wants.

[suzanne]

He sucks and he may leave TNA but I doubt that WWE would sign him.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Well he owns the Wwe so he can do whatever he wants.
The fact is that he's not much of a wrestler. Summerslam will likely have 4 matches from Raw and 4 from Smackdown! as well, so 3 of those matches have been decided already. Cena is likely to be in the other match. A lot of very good wrestlers won't be on the card who are much more deserving than Vince.

[JoviFan]

Cena is the other match he is facing Edge for the wwe championship that was announced monday night on raw.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Cena is the other match he is facing Edge for the wwe championship that was announced monday night on raw.
So, they've announced 4 Raw matches already yet 0 from Smackdown!? Is this going to be a Raw Pay-Per-View rather than both shows?

[JoviFan]

I have heard some rumour that Batista is supposed to wrestle for the heavyweight title. So we shall see.

[suzanne]

Actually its a RAW, SMACKDOWN, and ECW show.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Actually its a RAW, SMACKDOWN, and ECW show.
They've already announced Flair vs. Foley, Triple H/Michaels vs. Vince/Shane Mcmahon, Orton vs. Hogan, and Cena vs. Edge. All those matches should be a decent amount of time, and that's maybe half of the PPV right there. Especially if they have the diva's competition, it doesn't leave much room for the other two shows.

[JoviFan]

Tonight they are supposed to announce something on Smackdown about matches on Summerslam.

[suzanne]

I doubt they will have the divas competition.

Add Undertaker vs Great Kahli to the PPV.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It looks as if Edge vs. Cena, Foley vs. Flair, DX vs. the McMahons, Orton vs. Hogan, Undertaker vs. Kalhi, Batista vs. Booker, Misterio vs. Chavo, and maybe one or two ECW matches will be the card. It should be a good card but I don't see any classics coming out of the entire card.

[JoviFan]

The hogan match has to be changed because it's been reported that Hogan hurt his knee. He may have broke or torn a piece of his miniscus.

[suzanne]

That is not for sure yet they still may have that match at the PPV.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It's a shame that Lita isn't planning on signing in September. I wish wrestlers were more loyal to their industry rather than going into acting. I guess she has made close to $450,000 several years, so she has a lot of money saved up. I read something about Mick Foley signing for $300,000 per year around 1997(today is a different situation though) so I didn't think Lita would come close to that amount.

[JoviFan]

That is not for sure yet they still may have that match at the PPV.
It's very doubtful: If this is true he won't be wrestling for a while.


Hogan in Trouble?
August 4, 2006

On Friday, the WWE Chairman, Vince McMahon, received an urgent phone call from Hulk Hogan.

Hogan said that there’s a possibility that he has a cracked meniscus, which in turn could possibly prevent him from appearing on RAW this Monday night in Memphis, next week’s RAW in Charlottesville and even SummerSlam.

Hulk Hogan had an MRI Friday night at a Miami hospital to determine the extent of the injury which is in his right knee (his good one). Doctors will examine it over the weekend.

"It started about two weeks ago, like a toothache," Hogan said, "the joint on the outside of the knee. I was complaining to my son Nick that it was killing me all the time. I have been on the road with my daughter Brooke and haven't been able to work out my legs like I should."

Hogan added: "Friday, I did a couple of leg exercises at a gym. When I got home, I sat on my new couch and it was like sitting in a hole. When I got up, it sounded like a snap, an explosion in the kneecap. I can stand and walk a bit, but its hard for me to sit and get up and down the stairs."

Hogan was despondent that he might not compete against the Legend Killer Randy Orton. WWE.com reached Orton who is currently touring with the RAW roster in Australia.

When told about Hogan's sudden injury, Orton responded by saying, "Typical Hogan. I have been around the man since I was a child. It seems that every time he gets in a situation that he can't handle or if he gets in over his head, he blows out a knee or his back. Case and point, the old man (chuckling) blew out his knee getting up from the couch."

Hulk Hogan is arguably the greatest WWE Legend of all time, and if his injury prevents him from competing against Randy Orton at SummerSlam, there is no doubt he will see him sometime in the future.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It's very doubtful: If this is true he won't be wrestling for a while.


Hogan in Trouble?
August 4, 2006

On Friday, the WWE Chairman, Vince McMahon, received an urgent phone call from Hulk Hogan.

Hogan said that there’s a possibility that he has a cracked meniscus, which in turn could possibly prevent him from appearing on RAW this Monday night in Memphis, next week’s RAW in Charlottesville and even SummerSlam.

Hulk Hogan had an MRI Friday night at a Miami hospital to determine the extent of the injury which is in his right knee (his good one). Doctors will examine it over the weekend.

"It started about two weeks ago, like a toothache," Hogan said, "the joint on the outside of the knee. I was complaining to my son Nick that it was killing me all the time. I have been on the road with my daughter Brooke and haven't been able to work out my legs like I should."

Hogan added: "Friday, I did a couple of leg exercises at a gym. When I got home, I sat on my new couch and it was like sitting in a hole. When I got up, it sounded like a snap, an explosion in the kneecap. I can stand and walk a bit, but its hard for me to sit and get up and down the stairs."

Hogan was despondent that he might not compete against the Legend Killer Randy Orton. WWE.com reached Orton who is currently touring with the RAW roster in Australia.

When told about Hogan's sudden injury, Orton responded by saying, "Typical Hogan. I have been around the man since I was a child. It seems that every time he gets in a situation that he can't handle or if he gets in over his head, he blows out a knee or his back. Case and point, the old man (chuckling) blew out his knee getting up from the couch."

Hulk Hogan is arguably the greatest WWE Legend of all time, and if his injury prevents him from competing against Randy Orton at SummerSlam, there is no doubt he will see him sometime in the future.
I thought he had a big injury around the beginning of the year as well where he needed crutches. He definitely needs to retire soon. Even if it's not against Austin, he should definitely have a farewell match at Wrestlemania.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Hogan did miss Raw, so that can't be a good sign. Are they turning Edge babyface?

[suzanne]

They said the day after they announced his injury on the website that he would miss RAW.

NO they aren't trying to turn EDGE babyface.

[Stopanimalabuse]

NO they aren't trying to turn EDGE babyface.
He did show concern for a woman who was hurt. I can't recall too many heels before who have done anything like that. Anyways, I guess Mickie vs. Trish is supposed to happen at Summerslam. That would mean Raw has 5 matches. Hopefully they'll take away all of those useless video packages so they'll have enough time for the matches.

[JoviFan]

I don't see Trish getting her title back she is leaving after the 30th sometime she is getting married and did not resign a contract with the WWE.

[suzanne]

From what I have read that was a mistake on EDGE's part.

The HOGAN match is OFFICALLY still on.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I don't see Trish getting her title back she is leaving after the 30th sometime she is getting married and did not resign a contract with the WWE.
The match does seem very predictable. Beth Phoenix will likely be the next top contender to the title.

I guess there has recently been a study linking wrestling fans with more violent behavior. I haven't noticed that with wrestling fans I've met, but I would assume there may be a slight correlation. I can understand why Vince would be upset about this making the press. Owen's death recieved a lot of attention;most other deaths have recieved little to no attention. The press discusses wrestling when it makes wrestling look bad, but is generally quiet otherwise. They're obviously very disrespectful to pro wrestling in general.

[JoviFan]

I have seen in some cases where they get positive press. During Christmas this past year a reporter i cannot for the life of me i think from msnbc went along for the ride when the wwe went to visit the troops and really made them look good.

[JoviFan]

In other news John Cena has a movie opening up called The Marine coming out i believe in either Sept. or Oct.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I have seen in some cases where they get positive press. During Christmas this past year a reporter i cannot for the life of me i think from msnbc went along for the ride when the wwe went to visit the troops and really made them look good.
It may happen once in a while, but in most other instances they've been very disrespectful. Some of wrestling's most popular wrestlers have died. This would include Rick Rude, Hawk, Curt Hennig, and the Big Boss Man. Obviously there have been numerous other examples, but they were all main eventers at one time. Athletes like baseball or basketball players make the headlines when they die, but wrestlers simply don't. Andre the Giant may have, but he is one of the few examples of wrestlers who has made headlines.

[Stopanimalabuse]

In other news John Cena has a movie opening up called The Marine coming out i believe in either Sept. or Oct.
How well did his last movie. I don't consider myself a supporter of the military so, given the title, I don't think I will watch the movie.

[JoviFan]

I don't recall Cena having another movie ever but maybe i'm wrong.
Can't wait to see it with him in it. He looks so good.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I don't recall Cena having another movie ever but maybe i'm wrong.
Can't wait to see it with him in it. He looks so good.
When he did that music video a while back, wasn't that to promote his movie around that time? I could be getting him mixed up with other wrestlers who have done movies though.

[JoviFan]

No this is his first movie. He did a music video making fun of the A-Team tv show.

[suzanne]

That Video was for a song or his CD that he released.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I searched for his movie and couldn't find anything. I'm likely getting him mixed up with other wrestlers who act. I wish wrestlers were more loyal to their industry.

[JoviFan]

http://www.wwe.com/
go to the bottom on the page and click on watch the trailer.

[JoviFan]

Also on a lighter note, i no we have talked about this before: there is a lot of talk that Trish Stratus will be involved in a match at the PPV that will somehow write her out of the storylines for a while. She is getting married in late September and is said to be exploring her options for her future. Whether she will return to WWE or wrestling in general is unknown.

[suzanne]

John's movie is a WWE produced movie just like KANE's and Stone Cold's.

[Stopanimalabuse]

She is getting married in late September and is said to be exploring her options for her future. Whether she will return to WWE or wrestling in general is unknown.
Does that mean she is looking into acting as well, just like Lita? I just hope she is the one making the decision and is happy with it.

[JoviFan]

Don't know haven't heard yet sorry.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Both Smackdown! and Raw fans have had similar reactions to the diva contest. I hope the company has gotten the message by now that people just don't care for it. I was thinking Milena would win, so I'm a bit surprised.

It's not a surprise that they're already promoting Cena's movie. They'll likely push this movie even more than the previous one.

[JoviFan]

Well Cena's movie is a production from WWE so yeah they will promote it. The last movie they did with Cane was a a big hit so i'm sure they are banking on another one.

[suzanne]

They won't get rid of the DIVA Competition because it brings in ratings.

[Stopanimalabuse]

They won't get rid of the DIVA Competition because it brings in ratings.
I haven't payed much attention lately to the ratings so I can't say if that's true. Maybe in the past it helped the ratings, but the reaction has been terrible for the most part this season.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Well Cena's movie is a production from WWE so yeah they will promote it. The last movie they did with Cane was a a big hit so i'm sure they are banking on another one.
I don't believe Kane's movie earned much more than $5 million, so I wouldn't say it was a big hit. Cena is a bigger star so his movie will likely perform better.

[JoviFan]

actually is made more than that: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1158185-see_no_evil/numbers.php

Box Office Total: $15,019,200

[Stopanimalabuse]

actually is made more than that: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1158185-see_no_evil/numbers.php

Box Office Total: $15,019,200
Maybe you're right. I thought it earned around $4 million in its first week, and I don't believe it did much after that. I would trust a source like that more than my memory.

[JoviFan]

Yeah it's right because i remember them posting this on WWE's site not that long ago. But for a WWE movie to get that much money is pretty good and thats why they went ahead and made this movie with Cena which i think will do good too. The Kane movie was pretty good my daughter said it was really scarey.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Remember to watch Summerslam. The matches should be good, but I don't see a classic coming out of this event.

Layla has been announced as the winner of the Diva search. She was certainly not my choice, but it's good to see it's over. At least they won't have a skit at Summerslam like previous years.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Just as I expected. Summerslam hasn't received overly great reviews. It sounds as if D-Generation X didn't receive the reception they normally do.

[JoviFan]

I was highly dissapointed in this years summerslam. You could tell they were taking it easy with the Orton/Hogan match prolly cause of his knee. I really can't take much more of Edge and that King Booker sh*t needs to stop i never laughed so hard in my entire life. But i must say that the only match that looked real was the Rick Flair match and i must say it was disgusting. I couldn't watch all fo it.

[JoviFan]

Shawn Michaels did indded injure his shoulder/arm last night at SummerSlam. You could see Michaels favoring his arm after his match when he was unable to lift it.

After the match, when he got backstage his arm began to feel much better. The thinking at this time is that it was most likely a stinger and he should be allright. WWE may keep him out of the ring tonight to protect him, but at this moment he is not expected to miss any significant time.

Mick Foley recieved 25 stitches last night after his match.

There is expected to be a fight scene between John Cena and Edge at Harbor Yard, which is right on the shore of the Long Island Sound. At least one of them will end up in the water and this is expected to air after 10:30 PM.

There are also scheduled to be pre-tapes with some of the divas around the water tonight.

Lastly, tonight will be Mick Foley's last RAW for quite sometime according to sources backstage. It is possible that tonight we will see Mick Foley join the "Kiss My A$$" Club and also that Melina may turn on him for being a quitter last night.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I was highly dissapointed in this years summerslam. You could tell they were taking it easy with the Orton/Hogan match prolly cause of his knee. I really can't take much more of Edge and that King Booker sh*t needs to stop i never laughed so hard in my entire life. But i must say that the only match that looked real was the Rick Flair match and i must say it was disgusting. I couldn't watch all fo it.
I don't think expectations were generally too high. The problem with the WWE is that they just don't produce the classics anymore. I remember in 2000, they had great matches just about every pay-per-view. It's gone downhill ever since then.

It looks as if Jim Duggan has been officially signed. He's on their site, and his team won a match this past week. That can't bode well for the Spirit Squad though. It'll also be interesting to see how they push Jeff Hardy. I'm surprised they've put him against Edge already.

[Stopanimalabuse]

The main event seems so predictable. Cena definitely has his fan base, but there are a lot of people who are sick of him. I'm not sure whether giving him the belt back is the right idea, but it looks like it will happen. Unless they want to move him to Smackdown! away from Triple H. I could see them doing that.

I guess Stephanie said it's "disgusting" that she was asked to have her child involved in the storylines. I don't blame her for feeling that way, but I'm surprised she'd be that harsh to her own father.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I guess Trish has been confirmed as leaving. It's sad but expected. Trish wasn't sure how to tell her fans, so Lita told them instead? Is that what has happened?

[JoviFan]

Yes that is what happened. It was reported awhile ago she was leaving.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Yes that is what happened. It was reported awhile ago she was leaving.
That was more of a rumor and hadn't been confirmed by too many people. It's odd to think that Lita was listening to Trish' personal conversations.

[suzanne]

It is called a STORYLINE folks.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It is called a STORYLINE folks.
Are you referring to the storyline regarding Stephanie's child? I don't necessarily endorse her view point, but I can understand why she would feel that way. An issue like that doesn't belong in the storylines.

[JoviFan]

Vince did an interview talking about this and said he wanted to do this storyline but Stephanie said no. Yes it is only a storyline. I think it would of crossed the line just like when they had a storyline with Rey Misterio sons saying he was really Eddie Guerrio's son when in real life he is Rey's son.

[suzanne]

No I am talking about the Trish/Lita thing.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Vince did an interview talking about this and said he wanted to do this storyline but Stephanie said no. Yes it is only a storyline. I think it would of crossed the line just like when they had a storyline with Rey Misterio sons saying he was really Eddie Guerrio's son when in real life he is Rey's son.
I think them bringing Vicky back the way they have is crossing the line a bit more. I don't really know the circumstances behind this though, so maybe it's difficult for me to make a judgement.

[suzanne]

Vicki is part of it to make sure they don't cross the line.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'm very happy to see Super Crazy on Raw. I just hope they start to push Psicosis soon, but Super Crazy is a bit younger. I just hope they start to push him rather than treating him as they have in the past.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I would assume Trish was expecting a better response for what could be her last Raw match. Is Roddy Piper actually signed to the league? He seems to be on every once in a while.

[suzanne]

They bring in the legends every once and awhile.

[JoviFan]

Thank the god that Cena won his title back. I cannot stand Edge at all.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I cannot stand Edge at all.
Why do you feel that way?

[JoviFan]

I have never liked Edge. Never sorry. I was so glad i just watched the tape we taped last night and found myself saying yes even though i know it's fake to edge getting the sh*t beat out of him and Cena winning his title back.. Amen..

[suzanne]

They needed to let EDGE keep the belt and send Cena over to SMACKDOWN.

[JoviFan]

They needed to let EDGE keep the belt and send Cena over to SMACKDOWN.
Didn't happen that way thank god. I cannot stand Edge and he got what was coming to him if he could actually win a match without Lita interfering it would be a funny thing.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Unforgiven has received probably the best reviews of any show this year, except maybe Wrestlemania. I'm still waiting for them to turn Cena heel officially. He is constantly given mixed responses, so they should change him. I'm also surprised that Michaels is still wrestling. I thought he was expected to have surgery.

[JoviFan]

Well Cena joined DX which has been rumored for months now. This will be good i like Triple H and HBK and now Cena couldn't get any better.

[suzanne]

They won't turn Cena. He tagged with DX on Monday he didn't join DX.

[JoviFan]

Rumor is he is joining DX we will just have to wait and see.

[Stopanimalabuse]

There was supposed to be talk of Cena turning heel after Wrestlemania and Triple H turning face, but obviously that didn't happen. Babyfaces rarely receive this kind of a reaction, so I wouldn't be surprised if it happens by Wrestlemania.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'm very happy to see Scorpio signed with the company. He may be older but, as long as they don't give him a gimmick like Flash Funk, I'm happy. I'm assuming he'll be wrestling in ECW.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It's good to see Shelton Benjamin wrestling. It seems as if he's been off Raw for a while. I was just about to ask about Bischoff, so it's good to see him back on Raw. Are they planning to bring him back as a character?

[JoviFan]

Me too i like Shelton too. Bischoff i knew if was only a matter of time before he was back.

[suzanne]

He isn't back. He was brought back to promote his book and thats it.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Does anyone know why WWE wouldn't bring Bischoff back? I really thought the two sides got along well.

[JoviFan]

I think we all know it's a matter of time before he returns they always do.

[suzanne]

Again he isn't back. He wrote a book and they promoted it nothing more and nothing less.

[JoviFan]

Again I never said he was BACK i just said it's a matter of time.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It's great to see Jeff Hardy winning one of their biggest singles titles. I hope this is the biggest singles push he's ever had. I have heard a lot of people complain that there's too much D-Generation X shown on TV and they do have a limited number of heels, so maybe it's best if they turn Michaels heel.

[JoviFan]

I personally like D-Generation X and i'm glad they are back they make the show fun to watch. Love Triple H. Not a fan of Jeff Hardy at all. Like his brother Matt.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I personally like D-Generation X and i'm glad they are back they make the show fun to watch. Love Triple H. Not a fan of Jeff Hardy at all. Like his brother Matt.
It's not that the wrestlers in DX are boring;I think the group is boring people. I haven't checked the ratings lately, so I'm not sure how people are reacting to them. They definitely need at least one other well-known heel and I don't think they should change Triple H yet again. Michaels would be the best choice. Or maybe they could change Snitsky back to heel and give him a push.

[JoviFan]

When we watch monday night Raw everyone is going crazy over DX so i don't think that there popularity is down. When i tried to order a t-shirt for my son on their's all of them were sold out i went to a local store to get one for him and they were sold out they backordered me one and he now has it. So i don't think the popularity is down at all.

[Stopanimalabuse]

There have been reports that they're talking with Nash and Hall. I assume they'd be wrestling on Raw. It would be disappointing if they signed them. I'd rather see them pick up new talent rather than bring old wrestlers back in.

[suzanne]

Those are old rumros and Kevin resigned with TNA.

[Stopanimalabuse]

They could have given Lashley more time in the ring. It looks to me like Show vs. Cena vs. Booker will be the main event at Survivor Series. That's a bit disappointing IMO.

[suzanne]

NO thats the Main Event at Cyber Sunday. Most likely those three men will face each other again at the Survivor Series but with partnets in a Old School Survivor Series Match.

[Stopanimalabuse]

NO thats the Main Event at Cyber Sunday. Most likely those three men will face each other again at the Survivor Series but with partnets in a Old School Survivor Series Match.
Are they planning to have the entire Survivor Series event be 4 against 4 or whatever? I'm hoping they do it that way, but they haven't done it like that since 1990. It makes the event stand out as unique.

[suzanne]

I don't know but the Main Event will be Cena and DX vs King Booker, Batista, and Rey vs BIG Show, RVD. and SABU possibly in a War Games Match.

[JoviFan]

Cena was recently PUNKED by Ashton Kutcher don't know when they plan on airing it but he has been punked.

[Stopanimalabuse]

All of this talk of a major announcement usually ends up disappointing me and this time it's no different. The Marine garnered around $7 million, and I guess it cost around $15 million. Did it reach close to expectations?

[Stopanimalabuse]

One of the former Fabulous Freebirds has quit in the writing team. He didn't last much longer than 2 weeks. I wonder why he quit.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'm curious as to whether Carlito or Hardy will be turned heel. Carlito just turned babyface a short time ago, so I'm assuming Hardy will become the heel. It's also disappointing that Eugene and Duggan won't be together anymore. They weren't a very good team, but I wish WWE kept their tag teams together for much longer.

[suzanne]

Why do you assume either Carlito or Hardy will be turned heel?

Normally I would agree about tag teams but I would rather see Eugene be on his own and Duggan retire.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Why do you assume either Carlito or Hardy will be turned heel?
When two baby faces start pushing each other, you can usually assume one of them will be turned. It may not happen in all cases, but it applies to a majority of the time.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Yikes. Not exactly one of their best shows. If TNA can do well and gets a timeslot, I think WWE may be in trouble. Does the pyro in the opening cost them that much? I've noticed some weeks they haven't done it.

[suzanne]

They do pyro for every show. TNA is nothing.

[suzanne]

They do pyro for every show. TNA is nothing.

[Stopanimalabuse]

TNA is nothing.
They may not be competition for the moment. I think WWE needs to find some new talent. They also need to find different writers. That's probably the biggest problem they've had over the last 4 years or so. I've heard Dusty Rhodes is one of their writers, so that surprises me a bit. I think people are bored with Triple H, and they need the next Steve Austin or the Rock. They just don't have a star like that who could bring in new viewers.

[suzanne]

They have plenty of good talent. I agree about the writters. TNA is never going to be competition.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Last week's Raw got terrible reviews, the Pay-Per-View got terrible reviews, and this week's Raw has gotten probably the worst reviews yet. At least Smackdown! is gaining in ratings;I could see that show becoming their highest rated if shows like this continue. What boggles my mind is that Roddy Piper and Ric Flair are the tag champions. The Spirit Squad has no credibility at this point;they should definitely split the team up by Christmas or so.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I was thinking Cryme Tyme would be the next Tag Team Champions, so that surprises me that they would give it to two singles wrestlers. At this point, which heels have DX not beaten? They've beaten(and dominated) many of the heels on the entire roster, so I really don't see a point in this continuing much longer. I keep hearing that Michaels will have surgery, but it seems that they're delaying it every time that that is brought up.

[suzanne]

Mike Johnson is reporting that one of the reasons for Ric Flair and Roddy Piper losing the World Tag Team Titles this past Monday night on Raw in Manchester to Edge and Randy Orton was due to a medical situation involving Piper.

According to reports, Piper has some type of intestinal/bowel problem and needed to return to the United States as soon as possible to receive medical attention for it.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Mike Johnson is reporting that one of the reasons for Ric Flair and Roddy Piper losing the World Tag Team Titles this past Monday night on Raw in Manchester to Edge and Randy Orton was due to a medical situation involving Piper.

According to reports, Piper has some type of intestinal/bowel problem and needed to return to the United States as soon as possible to receive medical attention for it.
That's understandable, but they should have given the titles to a team that is actually together regularly instead of Edge and Orton.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I guess there were three matches they had from the previous week. That is funny but sad. One of the matches(Hardy vs. Nitro) will be on next week as well, and one of the other matches(Lita vs. Micky) will be at Survivor Series. Raw used to be only one hour. People would say it's better at two hours, but I think you have a much better chance at the show coming across as stale and this is one good example.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I would have preferred that Sabu and Umaga wrestle to a draw, but I guess I should have expected that an ECW wrestler would lose to a WWE wrestler. Is Ron Simmons now wrestling again full-time or is he just making a temporary return?

[suzanne]

Just for the PPV.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I guess they are trying to add even more pay-per-views. Obviously that will mean less people will buy each one, so I don't see how Vince thinks this will help make them more money.

[Stopanimalabuse]

The show was disappointing. Benoit-Chavo, Kennedy-Undertaker, and several of the Survivor matches were far too short, and I'm amazed that the Spirit Squad lost to people near their 50's.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I think the Hardy's vs. MNM could be a great match. However, I'm a bit confused. Is Matt Hardy still on Smackdown!? Is Mercury going to be on ECW like it's been stated? I would rather see MNM seperated, but I would love to see the Hardy's wrestle together in the future. It would help the tag team division on any of the shows.

[suzanne]

I don't know which show Joey Mercury is going to be on.

YES Matt Hardy is still on Smackdown.

[JoviFan]

They may not be competition for the moment. I think WWE needs to find some new talent. They also need to find different writers. That's probably the biggest problem they've had over the last 4 years or so. I've heard Dusty Rhodes is one of their writers, so that surprises me a bit. I think people are bored with Triple H, and they need the next Steve Austin or the Rock. They just don't have a star like that who could bring in new viewers.
I don't think people are bored with HHH because all you see in the audiences at shows are there shirts and when i try to find there shirts around here they are all sold out. I finally found one for my son and i ordered it online and it took forever caz it was backordered.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I don't think people are bored with HHH because all you see in the audiences at shows are there shirts and when i try to find there shirts around here they are all sold out. I finally found one for my son and i ordered it online and it took forever caz it was backordered.
Maybe fans are different, but from people who are more critical of wrestling I haven't heard one person say he is exciting these days. I've also noticed how bored they have been of Hogan and the fans for the most part haven't felt that way, so you could be right.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'm surprised they could mention these racial steryotypes that they did. They put on a much better show than previous weeks, but something like that could turn viewers off more than anything else.

[JoviFan]

Maybe fans are different, but from people who are more critical of wrestling I haven't heard one person say he is exciting these days. I've also noticed how bored they have been of Hogan and the fans for the most part haven't felt that way, so you could be right.
I look at it like this the majority of fans are kids yes i know there are alot of older people who enjoy watching this fake stuff even i do. But for the most part the kids are buying the stuff and watching so much of this and thats all you see at these events we were just at one a couple of weeks ago monday night raw in pittsburgh and all you see are DX shirts and Cena shirts all over the place.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I look at it like this the majority of fans are kids yes i know there are alot of older people who enjoy watching this fake stuff even i do. But for the most part the kids are buying the stuff and watching so much of this and thats all you see at these events we were just at one a couple of weeks ago monday night raw in pittsburgh and all you see are DX shirts and Cena shirts all over the place.
Most of the people they show in the audience are teenagers or adults. Kids may buy more of the merchandise(I'm not so sure) but they tend to cater towards a more mature audience. I'm not sure if that's accurate.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I don't understand why they're hyping Federline's appearance so much. They've brought many celebrities on at some point, but at least they've been popular. His CD is considered a huge failure and won't be talked about too often now that he divorced Britney.

[suzanne]

He brought up the ratings and the divorce isn't final so people are still talking about him.

[JoviFan]

Most of the people they show in the audience are teenagers or adults. Kids may buy more of the merchandise(I'm not so sure) but they tend to cater towards a more mature audience. I'm not sure if that's accurate.
Not the shows i take my son to in Pittsburgh there are alot of kids with there parents or siblings.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Not the shows i take my son to in Pittsburgh there are alot of kids with there parents or siblings.
Are they TV tapings or house shows you've gone to? I'm assuming there's a different audience for both. I went to house shows several years ago, and it did look like a younger audience.

[Stopanimalabuse]

He brought up the ratings and the divorce isn't final so people are still talking about him.
I thought I've read many times that the divorce is official. It would make more sense then.

[suzanne]

Not even close to being official.

[JoviFan]

Are they TV tapings or house shows you've gone to? I'm assuming there's a different audience for both. I went to house shows several years ago, and it did look like a younger audience.
No these were all monday night raws in pittsburgh there was only once that it was a house show and it was the same audience. We've been to so many over the years and all the same audience.

[Stopanimalabuse]

No these were all monday night raws in pittsburgh there was only once that it was a house show and it was the same audience. We've been to so many over the years and all the same audience.
When they show the audience on Raw, it's usually older teenagers or young adults. I don't see too many children.

[JoviFan]

Not when they are in Pittsburgh we go everytime they are there and thats all we see is kids and yes i mean teens too they fall into that catagory with there parents.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Triple H vs. Cena(with a possibility of a third wrestler), the Undertaker vs. Batista, the Big Show vs. Hogan, and the Hardy's vs. MNM(ladder match) are some of the matches rumored for Wrestlemania. It should be a great show.

[suzanne]

The only match on that list I would call great is Hardy's vs. MNM(ladder match).

[Stopanimalabuse]

The only match on that list I would call great is Hardy's vs. MNM(ladder match).
I have a feeling that, if they do interpromotional matches, Benoit vs. Punk could also be a match. Potentially the best on the card. We'll have to see what the other matches are, but I think it should be a very good card. I hope the matches are given the appropriate time, but that hasn't happened lately.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I had thought the Cena-Federline match would be the main event. It's great to see Johnny Nitro brought into that feud. I don't think he has the star qualities to become a regular main eventer, but he is one of the best heels they have on Raw right now and one of their best wrestlers as well.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I'm surprised that Umaga will be getting another title shot. Orton and Edge had problems defeating Michaels, looking weak in the process. I assume that Umaga won't win the title, so even their leading heels on Raw look weak right now. They need to push more heels at the moment, but I certainly hope Kalhi is not their choice.

[Stopanimalabuse]

It's looking like they're trying to give Shawn Michaels a big singles push, and I think it's the best decision they could make. The Rumble itself will be one of the most unpredictable IMO. Obviously I expect Triple H and Cena to wrestle at Wrestlemania, but the winners don't even receive the title shots sometimes so it could be almost anyone.

[suzanne]

HHH won't be back until this summer. The winner of the Royal Rumble does get a World title show at WrestleMania each year.

[Stopanimalabuse]

HHH won't be back until this summer. The winner of the Royal Rumble does get a World title show at WrestleMania each year.
They're supposed to, but it doesn't always work out that way. If Triple H is injured, I am hoping that Michaels gets a title shot against Cena. A Hogan-Austin match should be more likely if Triple H is injured, but I have a feeling ego's will get in the way.

[suzanne]

HHH IS injured and their is almost NO chance of a Hogan-Austin match.