BRITNEY SALES vs CHRISTINA SALES

[XTIANLOVESBRITNE]

BOMT:23 million [10.6 in usa,14xP]
OIDIA:20million[9.1 ,10xP]
Britney:10million[4.2,4xP]
In the zone:8 million[3,2xP]
GHMP:6 million[1.3,1xP]

Total Britney sales:70 million albums sold worldwide

Christina Aguilera:12 million[8,8xp]
My kind of xmas:1 million[.6,1xP]
Mi reflejo: 3 million[1.2,4x latin Platinos]
Stripped:9 million[3.9,4xp]
B2b:1.7 million [.7,G]

Christina Aguilera: 27 millon albums sold worldwide

THE LAST ALBUMS, WEEK TO WEEK:

IN THE ZONE

1 WEEK 605 622
2 WEEK 250 174
3 WEEK 143 394
4 WEEK 153 028
5 WEEK 208 000
6 WEEK 205 000
7 WEEK 67,039
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1 632 257

BACK2 BASIC

1 WEEK 355,598
2 WEEK 134,648
3 WEEK 98,623
4 WEEK 63,684
5 WEEK 46,782
6 WEEK 33,618
7 WEEK 31,248
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764 201

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/xtianspears8/06cy7.png

[carrielucky1]

I think its obvious whose sold more!Go BRIT!

[RolliePollieaz]

Oy... lets just stop comparing guys .. theres no point ....

[britneybaby]

^ True that this is probably not necessary since we all know it anyway and it ticks some people off. But the door was opened with the "Christina will ALWAYS be better than Britney......" thread. And besides, anyone this ticks off probably shouldn't be here anyway.

[aleronihead]

Who cares? Comparisons are so overrated, especially with such different artists. This rivalry feels as old and pointless as the Mariah/Madonna fued.

[~Crybaby~]

"Christina Aguilera:12 million[8,8xp]
My kind of xmas:1 million[.6,1xP]
Mi reflejo: 3 million[1.2,4x latin Platinos]
Stripped:9 million[3.9,4xp]
B2b:1.7 million [.7,G]"

I agree, the comparisons are very stupid, however, her sales aren't even accurate here.

Her debut sold 14 million albums
"My Kind Of Christmas" sold 3 million
The Spanish Debut sold 5 million
"Just Be Free" isn't even included which sold 1 million worldwide
"Stripped" sold 12 million
and "Back To Basics" has currently pushed 1.8 million units

It's more like she's sold close to 35 million albums which isn't more than Britney, but isn't bad either.

Also, you didn't include Britney's Remix album which sold around 500,000-1 million copies. I'm sure on the exact sales of that disc.

[heavenwaits_22]

^ Stripped didn't sell 12 million. It sold 9.5 million tops.

Baby sold 25 million
Oops sold 20 million
Brit sold 12 million
ITZ sold 8 million
GH:MP sold 6.5 million
BITM sold 500k (limited edition offer. Wasn't even promoted)
=72 million

But in Time magazine in 2005 had her at 76 million albums sold worldwide.

http://www.time.com/time/photoessays/achievers_feature/

[~Crybaby~]

"^ Stripped didn't sell 12 million. It sold 9.5 million tops."

lol It's 12 million and counting. It's still on Euro charts as well as others around the world.

[heavenwaits_22]

^ That's funny because her record label said nothing about 12 million. Actually in an article the interviewer said that Stripped has sold 9.5 million. I think it was Rolling Stone. Where did the other 2.5 million come from? Zimbabwe?

[jimmyboy]

How bout comparing Christina's voice with Brietny's?. It's all on the eye of the beholder, some might find selling a lot more important than singing and having a great voice.

I don't really care about sales that much, if the singer I like sales a lot, good for him/her, if he doesn't, well I still think he/she is better than many of those who outsold him.

In this case, B can sell hundreds of millions of albums and C can only sale 2 millions I would still state and believe CA is better than Britney, less famous but better IMO.

[~Crybaby~]

^ That's funny because her record label said nothing about 12 million. Actually in an article the interviewer said that Stripped has sold 9.5 million. I think it was Rolling Stone. Where did the other 2.5 million come from? Zimbabwe?

lol Her label never made any statements saying the sales were 9.5, I'm sure of that. Post a link to the supposed article you read, this should be good.

[~Crybaby~]

In November, 2005, the sales had already surpassed the alleged 9.5 million. The sales were over 11 million then and have surpassed 12 million now as I stated.

"Stripped" worldwide sales:

8x Platinum

Ireland (Platinum Req.: 15,000) Total: 120,000+

6x Platinum

United Kingdom (Platinum Req.:300,000) Total: 1,782,056

5x Platinum

Australia (Platinum Req.: 70,000) Total: 350,000+

4x Platinum

United States (Platinum Req.: 1,000,000) Total: 4,000,000+

Korea (Platinum Req.: 30,000) Total: 120,000+

Canada (Platinum Req.: 100,000) Total: 400,000+

Triple Platinum

Phillipines (Platinum Req.: 30,000) Total: 90,000


Double Platinum

Singapore (Platinum Req.: 15,000) Total: 30,000
Germany (Platinum Req.: 200,000) BMG says: Total: 500,000
New Zealand (Platinum Req.: 15,000) Total: 30,000
Czech Republic (Platinum Req.: 10,000) Total: 20,000
Mexico (Platinum Req.: 150,000) Total: 300,000

Platinum

Austria (Platinum Req.: 30,000)
Taiwan (Platinum Req.: 30,000) BMG Says: Total: 40,000
Switzerland (Platinum Req.: 40,000)
Czech Republic (Platinum Req.: 10,000)
The Netherlands (Platinum Req.: 80,000)
Sweden (Platinum Req.: 60,000)
Hungary (Platinum Req.: 20,000)
Denmark (Platinum Req.: 40,000) Total: 53,000
Taiwan (Platinum Req.: 30,000) Total: 49,000
Japan (Platinum Req.: 200,000)
Argentina (Platinum Req.: 40,000)
South Africa (Platinum Req.: 50,000)
Norway (Platinum Req.: 40,000)
Thailand (Platinum Req.: 40,000)

Gold

Spain (Gold Req.: 50,000)
Brazil (Gold Req.: 50,000) Total: 60,000
Italy (Gold Req.: 50,000) Total: 72,000
Hong Kong (Gold Req.: 10,000)
Belgium (Gold Req.: 25,000) Total: 30,000
Chile (Gold Req.: 10,000) Total: 13,000
France (Gold Req.: 100,000)

Other

Portugal: - Silver (Silver Req.: 10,000)

Poland: BMG says 15,000 (no certification).
Finland: BMG says 8,000 (no certification).
Russia: BMG says 40,000 sold (no certification).
Iceland: BMG says 1,900 units sold (no certification)

Worldwide Sales - Total: over 11,000,000

November 7 - 2005

[heavenwaits_22]

How bout comparing Christina's voice with Brietny's?. It's all on the eye of the beholder, some might find selling a lot more important than singing and having a great voice.

I don't really care about sales that much, if the singer I like sales a lot, good for him/her, if he doesn't, well I still think he/she is better than many of those who outsold him.

In this case, B can sell hundreds of millions of albums and C can only sale 2 millions I would still state and believe CA is better than Britney, less famous but better IMO.
Why do you say things with such fact? If this was about vocals then it would say in the topic title. But it's not. So please next time when trying to divert something. At least make it about the subject. Because if you stray then that shows a lack of confidence on the subject of sells for your dearly beloved favorite artist.

[heavenwaits_22]

^ all that you posted is mumbo jumbo. Anyone could've made it up. No source, no nothing.

[Janis]

wow, interesting.

[aleronihead]

Why do you say things with such fact? If this was about vocals then it would say in the topic title. But it's not. So please next time when trying to divert something. At least make it about the subject. Because if you stray then that shows a lack of confidence on the subject of sells for your dearly beloved favorite artist.

He's just saying how pointless the comparison is, you brown noser.

[~Crybaby~]

^ all that you posted is mumbo jumbo. Anyone could've made it up. No source, no nothing.

Yet, you've posted nothing to back your claims calling mine mumbo jumbo. lol Classic.

http://www.fmforums.co.uk/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t41354.html

"2002: Stripped — #2 US, #3 CAN, #2 UK; (4x Platinum) 12 million Worldwide "

http://christinaaguilera.topcelebrityphoto.com/

[brit&janet4eva]

Yet, you've posted nothing to back your claims calling mine mumbo jumbo. lol Classic.

http://www.fmforums.co.uk/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t41354.html

"2002: Stripped — #2 US, #3 CAN, #2 UK; (4x Platinum) 12 million Worldwide "

http://christinaaguilera.topcelebrityphoto.com/
i really don't understand why he post that mumbo jombo commit because even if xtina did sell 12mil world wide britney still far surpassed xtina album sales. so that comment was just pointless. as in matter of fact this thread is pointless.

[~Crybaby~]

i really don't understand why he post that mumbo jombo commit because even if xtina did sell 12mil world wide britney still far surpassed xtina album sales. so that comment was just pointless. as in matter of fact this thread is pointless.

What? It's not pointless at all because the intent in my posting was not to prove Christina Aguilera has sold more than Britney Spears, we all know that's not true. However, I find it interesting that the originator of this thread conviently lowered the sales of a couple of Christina's albums which was followed by a big picture of Britney Spears. lol He/she was so misinformed, he didn't even add the Remix album of Spears which sales were around 500k-1,000,000 for her sales. There's no need to make up sh*t. She will probably never sell more than Britney, Britney was like THE pop icon in the beginning I give her credit for doing her thing back then.

[britneybaby]

Meh. Stripped was a good album and deserved to sell well. Then Christina let her pride get in the way and made lots of mistakes on Back To Basics. It deserves to be falling down the charts.

[~Crybaby~]

"Back To Basics" is a far better disc, it's been better received amung critics, her vocal historics have been toned down alot and the production is better. It's more risky and innovative.. I like that she's not working with the same producer/s that everyone else is working with currently. The only thing I don't like is that it's on two discs but hey, can't always have it my way.
She'll shoot back up the charts though, I have no doubt about that. I think she'll sell just a little under "Stripped" domestically, and 9-10 million worldwide. She's had alot of worldwide support for this disc even though the sales have been less impressive in the states. She's nearing 2.5 million WW. Not bad for just one single IMO.

[britneybaby]

^ You're going to be very disappointed if you think B2B will sell 9-10 million and just under Stripped domestically. It's under 2 million now worldwide, and it is not getting good worldwide support.

[~Crybaby~]

The album has sold more than 2 million. And those are just my predictions.. If I'm wrong, I can live with that I'm no sales expert or anything. I'm more concerned with the quality of the album and the critics and fans alike agree the album is good and much better than "Stripped", because it is.

[heavenwaits_22]

http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20687&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArtic...RUKOC_0_US -AGUILERA.xml

there you go. Oh and before people go all ape the second link is an official source. This person interviewed Christina.

[~Crybaby~]

It's a fan forum with no source for his/her article that was posted. I've never seen this before.

Your second link doesn't work.

[~Crybaby~]

"Oh and before people go all ape the second link is an official source. This person interviewed Christina."

I checked it out, it doesn't work. I don't doubt your claims, however, it's obvious your source is making it up considering he has no source of his own. lol

[~Crybaby~]

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/search/google/search_results_taxo.jsp?configType=BBCOM_SIMPLEDEFAULT&startDate=&endDate=false&pubList=Billboard&kw=christina+aguilera&au=&mt=&mv=&esindct=false

You can check all of the billboard articles on Aguilera posted about her new album or just her in general. It's interesting that there's nothing posted about a 9.5 million WW sale of "Stripped", yet on that link, it's indicated it's from billboard. lol Whoever made that is just sad and needs a hobby.

[heavenwaits_22]

you have to copy and paste the last link i put on my post. Duh.

[Gregory Hawk]

Why do you say things with such fact? If this was about vocals then it would say in the topic title. But it's not. So please next time when trying to divert something. At least make it about the subject. Because if you stray then that shows a lack of confidence on the subject of sells for your dearly beloved favorite artist.
And you did the same in the PM I sent you. Monkey see, monkey do.

And just to let you know, your second link (in no matter what shape or form at the moment) does not work. You yourself try copying and pasting it. It turns out to be:


http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArtic...RUKOC_0_US

[jimmyboy]

Why do you say things with such fact? If this was about vocals then it would say in the topic title. But it's not. So please next time when trying to divert something. At least make it about the subject. Because if you stray then that shows a lack of confidence on the subject of sells for your dearly beloved favorite artist.
My favorite beloved artist is MAriah Carey which is one of the biggest selling females of ALL TIME and she is even among the BEST SELLINNG ARTISTS AF ALL TIME so why the lack of confidence.

About Christina, yes her sales are below Britney's but are not dissapointing, I've liked Christina for about a year now but since the start I knew and most of the people I have known ever since that time knew as well Christina was the better singer out of them two. And I didn't became a fan of hers because of her sales, if that were my case I would be a fan of Britney.

[~Crybaby~]

you have to copy and paste the last link i put on my post. Duh.

I did numerous times, it doesn't work. So much for your supposed source.

Oh and BTW, the first link.. His source was supposedly a billboard article, however, I went to billboard and dug up all her articles and it's not there. lol Suprise suprise. I don't know why people have a hard time giving her the 12 million she got for "Stripped". As for the person who fabricated that article, that's real pathetic and sad.

[heavenwaits_22]

I did numerous times, it doesn't work. So much for your supposed source.

Oh and BTW, the first link.. His source was supposedly a billboard article, however, I went to billboard and dug up all her articles and it's not there. lol Suprise suprise. I don't know why people have a hard time giving her the 12 million she got for "Stripped". As for the person who fabricated that article, that's real pathetic and sad.lol you're so in dire need of a life. It's not my fault the link doesn't work anymore. The article is on the first link of that site anyway, if you scroll down.

Christina's sells are as follows:
CA - 12-12.5 million
Stripped - 9.5 million
-21.5-22 million for studio albums.

[~Crybaby~]

lol you're so in dire need of a life. It's not my fault the link doesn't work anymore. The article is on the first link of that site anyway, if you scroll down.

Christina's sells are as follows:
CA - 12-12.5 million
Stripped - 9.5 million
-21.5-22 million for studio albums.

Although that has nothing to do with this post, it's true, I'm a loser. lol

You're in so dire need of a link that works though to back your claims. I mean, you're not even a fan, you have no link and you expect someone to believe your claims.. :( Sorry.

[christina's-girl]

It's funny that a thing like stats instead of talent would be in a Britney forum... wait, not such a big suprise after all...

[britneybaby]

^ Right, because nobody ever discusses stats in a Christina forum.

[~Crybaby~]

It's funny that a thing like stats instead of talent would be in a Britney forum... wait, not such a big suprise after all...

It really goes both ways though if we're gonna be fair.

[nexus]

Britney's sales used to be huge, but had she gained the respect Christina has? Big no-no.

[britneybaby]

Britney has a whole different outlook on this business than Christina. She just wants to entertain you, which is what her job really is all about. This is what Christina's job is too, except she gets too caught up in wanting to be admired. It's hurt her, expecially on Back To Basics.

[~Crybaby~]

"This is what Christina's job is too, except she gets too caught up in wanting to be admired. It's hurt her, expecially on Back To Basics."

Right on Britney, wrong on Christina. Christina since the debut seems to by vying for credibility in the industry and taken seriously as an artist and vocalist and I think she's succeeded. As for B2B, I have no idea what you're talking about considering it's her best reviewed disc. lol

BTW, I think Britney has more than succeeded in her career goals also. :)

[britneybaby]

Reviews for Back To Basics were okay, not great. I'm not including Christina's reviews of herself which are fantastic. This whole CD is very pretentious, right from the title to the songs to the way she talks about the CD in interviews to her disses of other artists. It's a turn off.

[jade.]

It's quality not quanity.

And britneybaby - are you saying every album Britney has released has been a masterpiece and been given excellent reviews? :rolleyes:

[britneybaby]

Nobody was claiming that Britney always gets excellent reviews, the claim was that Back To Basics did which is not true.

[~Crybaby~]

The general reviews were her best and "generally favorable" from that one site that collects all the reviews or whatever with nearly 70 percent good.
Personally, I think it's great, I'm all for people who didn't like it, that's fine.

[~Crybaby~]

Nobody was claiming that Britney always gets excellent reviews, the claim was that Back To Basics did which is not true.

Where did you read that? Being the best reviewed album of her career doesn't equte to excellent reviews. :(

[Gregory Hawk]

Reviews for Back To Basics were okay, not great. I'm not including Christina's reviews of herself which are fantastic. This whole CD is very pretentious, right from the title to the songs to the way she talks about the CD in interviews to her disses of other artists. It's a turn off.
As is talking about "emailing" hearts to one another, talking about hitting someone, talking about being a slave to another, and "touching" yourself. All are turn-offs. But that's what a lot of fans do: they put their own judgement of celebrities into part. They shouldn't do that.

Just because what Christina's talking about turns you off doesn't make Christina less or more of a talent, a force to be reckoned with, or a useless piece of meat.

Christina, with her voice, has always wanted respect in the business. Every single artist wants this. No artist would admit that they don't want any form of respect or credibility in the music business. Every rapper either pretends or talks about being shot or being in a gang because that's the form of respect in hip hop. (Or at least mainstream hip hop).

Let's talking about Britney vs Christina, not your thoughts on Britney vs your thoughts on Christina. Look at the facts. As far as sales go, Britney has sold more than Christina. As far as credibility goes, Christina has more than Britney.

[~Crybaby~]

"Let's talking about Britney vs Christina, not your thoughts on Britney vs your thoughts on Christina. Look at the facts. As far as sales go, Britney has sold more than Christina. As far as credibility goes, Christina has more than Britney."

That's true and fair I'd say.

[britneybaby]

All I'm saying is Christina takes herself way too seriously. I mean what is she really doing here, making an album and providing a little entertainment. If people are entertained, she's done her job. If they're not, better luck next time. Britney seems to get this, Kevin seems to get this, Christina needs to work on it.

[~Crybaby~]

That's not true. Mariah Carey is the best selling female artist of all-time and took the same musical approach as Christina Aguilera.. She's been tagged as "boring" and what not her whole career, but she keeps coming back and crushing the competition. Like you said earlier, it just depends on the approach you come into the industry with. Singers who can actually sing usually allow their voices to be their entertainment. If Christina Aguilera as an artist wasn't interesting to a certain degree, she wouldldn't have been on 05's best selling artist of all-time list.

Britney knows how to entertain, sure, I think she's a smart woman in that aspect. Kevin... um... No :(

[brit&janet4eva]

i just think back to basics is a boring album. The only songs i like is :

candyman
naughty
nasty boy
save me from my self
oh mother
the right man

thats like out of 22. to me stripped was her best album. actually the stripped album is what made me start liking her a little

[GoGo]

This thread needs to be deleted, cause all it'll do is start a war!

[jimmyboy]

This thread needs to be deleted, cause all it'll do is start a war!
*load guns and get missiles ready*

[JoviFan]

That's not true. Mariah Carey is the best selling female artist of all-time and took the same musical approach as Christina Aguilera.. She's been tagged as "boring" and what not her whole career, but she keeps coming back and crushing the competition. Like you said earlier, it just depends on the approach you come into the industry with. Singers who can actually sing usually allow their voices to be their entertainment. If Christina Aguilera as an artist wasn't interesting to a certain degree, she wouldldn't have been on 05's best selling artist of all-time list.

Britney knows how to entertain, sure, I think she's a smart woman in that aspect. Kevin... um... No :(
Coming from someone who was just defending Kevin saying he can sing in another thread. Hrmm go figure.

My bad sorry that wasn't you. Sorry again.

[jimmyboy]

Why do you say things with such fact? If this was about vocals then it would say in the topic title. But it's not. So please next time when trying to divert something. At least make it about the subject. Because if you stray then that shows a lack of confidence on the subject of sells for your dearly beloved favorite artist.
I love it when big mouth clowns like you "randomly" ignore an aswer you asked :funny: Speaking of a lack of confidence...

[christina's-girl]

^ Right, because nobody ever discusses stats in a Christina forum.
We do discuss stats, but we discuss talent even more, and the aspects of the human voice, whereas this forum doesn't seem to know anything about that.

[heavenwaits_22]

We do discuss stats, but we discuss talent even more, and the aspects of the human voice, whereas this forum doesn't seem to know anything about that.Oh please. We talk about those things also. Performances everything. We don't have a huge thread dedicated to the sells of one album like you have over there.:laugh:

[britneybaby]

We do discuss stats, but we discuss talent even more, and the aspects of the human voice, whereas this forum doesn't seem to know anything about that.
This forum is for the odd Britney fan who dares to post where few others are interested in posting. At the busy Britney forums like britneyspearsforum.com and britneyboards.com many things are discussed including Britney's voice (ask Barb - britcansing) and talent. We know that our Britney often doesn't get the credit she deserves. Although come to think of it, since Christina is always telling us how talented she is I suppose it would make sense for her fans to talk about it.

As for the JoviFan who was getting mad at Kevin being defended, sorry if the whole universe has not decided to jump on Kevin. I didn't say he could sing though (I don't know whether he can), but his rapping is pretty good.

[christina's-girl]

Give me an interview, or multiple interviews as you put it, where she is always talking about it. At least the concentration is on the talent instead of a soap opera life.

Oh please. We talk about those things also. Performances everything. We don't have a huge thread dedicated to the sells of one album like you have over there.:laugh:


Yeah, we have 1. We don't have numerous ones.

[britneybaby]

^ oh come on now, you may have one "official" album sales one, but you also have "official" threads for airplay and itunes sales for each single, plus numerous times when people create "unofficial" threads about why sales or airplay are they way they are.

I'm surprised that you're questioning how often Christina talks about how talented she is. The most recent interview I heard where she talked about how other people just aren't as creative as her was on Ryan Seacrest's Top 40, but I don't have a transcript. I could hunt around the internet for examples I suppose. I'm at work now, maybe later if I have time. But I think with the "At least the concentration is on the talent instead of a soap opera life." comment you know it's true.

[~Crybaby~]

"Although come to think of it, since Christina is always telling us how talented she is"

Bullsh*t. lol You need a hobby. Lies don't really suit you well.
Your constant, sly attacks on her at her are funny too. Get over it dude. You people have knacks for making up stuff. She doesn't talk about how talented she is, whenever she talks about her new work, she just states that she likes to be very hands on, involved in the album proccess and take her time, and tries to shy away from musical sounds and trends. That in no way, shape or form means she's trying to say she's so talented, especially since that's very opinionated anyway. The way you said that you'd think she goes around saying "Oh I'm so talented" and ect which she doesn't.

"I didn't say he could sing though (I don't know whether he can), but his rapping is pretty good."

I have a legit question for you, beside K-Fed, how much rap do you actually listen to and who are some of your favorites? I listen to mainstream, underground unsigned artists and ect. It's not hard to see Kevin isn't talented. I mean, I don't have a problem with anyone who thinks that, but I'm just beginning to question how much you actually know about the genre. To say he can rap is like saying Hilary Duff could sing. lol You just don't go there.

[~Crybaby~]

"We don't have a huge thread dedicated to the sells of one album like you have over there."

lol That's because she hasn't released anything in a while to talk about. Am I right or am I right?.
You just wait until her album comes out there, guaranteed they'll be atleast multiple ones, like we have. That's only normal though. Fans of almost every artist are concerned with sales and stats way more than they should because to most, sales or lack of equate to the status of that celeb (myself included at times) when the concern should be more about the quality of the disc and your opinion of it.

[britneybaby]

Come on, Christina telling us she's talented is a lie? Have you been listening to and reading her interviews? Her whole point of this album was to go back in time to "real" artists because she is just too good for the artists of today. If you can't admit that Christina's whole marketing plan is to say she's better because of how talented she is, I just don't know what to say.

Just to clarify what I am saying. I'm not saying that Christina doesn't have talent, or that voice is not one of the ways that people are entertained. After all, Britney worked for a couple of years on her voice before releasing BOMT to come up with the a unique, commercial, and recognizable sound. What I am saying is that Christina got so caught up in trying to prove she's better than other people that she got off track of what her real job is, and that is to entertain people.

As for Kevin's rapping, I think it's pretty good, as I said. I'm not heavily into rap music, but I hear what's popular. I'm certainly not the only person who thinks he has something. Jonathan "J.R." Rotem had some nice things to say about Kevin and wanted very much to work with him. Sticky Fingaz recently said Kevin's album is good:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2004580002-2006480792,00.html
If you can get past the mumbo jumbo of the media and the onslaught of hate, he does okay. Not amazing (at least not yet), but pretty good and getting better.

[~Crybaby~]

"Come on, Christina telling us she's talented is a lie? Have you been listening to and reading her interviews? Her whole point of this album was to go back in time to "real" artists because she is just too good for the artists of today. If you can't admit that Christina's whole marketing plan is to say she's better because of how talented she is, I just don't know what to say."

Once again, that's not true. lol You should just to Britney, because when it comes to her, you rarely eve know what you're talking about, you seem to be terribly mis-informed, or you're just flat out lying which is pretty pathetic.

The reason she made this throwback album is because since 1999, she's stated she has a love for that type of sound and wanted to try to incorporate it a little in her new work. NEVER once did she say she's doing because she's too good for the sounds of today or because she's better than anyone. lol and I would know because I've seen, hmm, I don't know maybe 95 percent of her interviews and appearances and that was never said. Some of her favorite artists (Etta James, B.B. King) and so fourth were popular artists during that era and she was paying homage to their sound, dedication, musical influince and style (for proof see "Back In The Day"). She wanted the people of today and her fans to be inspired by it in the way she was (hence the sampling on Disc 1) and give a sound, style and feel that was different than most of what's out today and she succeeded in doing so.

If you listened to the Intro of the disc she even says "I've waited for some time to get inside the minds of every legend I've ever wanted to stand beside, here I stand today and tribute I do pay to every legend..." and then there's "Back In The Day", and so fourth. It couldn't be more obvious what her intentions were. Your hate for her is making you delusional or something.

J.R. Totem is currently working with Britney, it doesn't come as a suprise that he would speak of Kevin in a positive light. It also doesn't come as a suprise that you only listen to what's popular as far as rap, because anyone who says Kevin can rap, obviously doesn't know much about the genre.

[heavenwaits_22]

Britney came from Louisiana the state of blues music. She's stated that she loves Otis Redding, and old blue-ish music. She's also performed a lot of old style cabaret. You don't see her being all blues is my core or whatever. She's influenced by a lot of things.

Christina seems to be so pre-occupied in what people think of her. It's kind of sad really. From her music to her looks.

J.R worked with Kevin first before he started to work with Britney. Therefore what you said has no validity. If someone thinks he's good at what he does like J.R. thinks of Kevin why not let him have his opinion? It's not like Britney is forcing J.R. onto Kevin's songs. He's there to work on them on his own behalf.

[britneybaby]

nate_deezy21 I am not lying, geez. Yes, I've read where Christina says how she used to listen to all that music, but there's certainly more to it than that, which you can hear in comments like Linda Perry's:
"Her competition is no longer Britney," says writer and producer Linda Perry (Pink, Gwen Stefani), who did the second disc of Aguilera's new record. "She's on another level, one where she can compete with those great old voices from the past."

And some of Christina's statements:

"I think nowadays, with videos and other outlets that make artists more visible, record labels tend to go with a packaged look and at times overlook some real talent."
and later...
"I look back at all my videos as a great body of work."

It's her whole gimic, I really don't see how you don't see that. Or maybe I should just call you a liar like you call me.

As for Kevin, I may not be big into rap but I have a strong general music background, so don't try and tell me my opinion doesn't count. And while J.R. did work with Britney, he initiated working with Kevin as well which he did not have to do. If you're going to tell me people like J.R., Sticky Fingaz, Bosko, and Ya-Boy don't know what they're talking about, well, there's not much else to say to you.

[heavenwaits_22]

nate_deezy21 I am not lying, geez. Yes, I've read where Christina says how she used to listen to all that music, but there's certainly more to it than that, which you can hear in comments like Linda Perry's:
"Her competition is no longer Britney," says writer and producer Linda Perry (Pink, Gwen Stefani), who did the second disc of Aguilera's new record. "She's on another level, one where she can compete with those great old voices from the past."

And some of Christina's statements:

"I think nowadays, with videos and other outlets that make artists more visible, record labels tend to go with a packaged look and at times overlook some real talent."
and later...
"I look back at all my videos as a great body of work."

It's her whole gimic, I really don't see how you don't see that. Or maybe I should just call you a liar like you call me.

As for Kevin, I may not be big into rap but I have a strong general music background, so don't try and tell me my opinion doesn't count. And while J.R. did work with Britney, he initiated working with Kevin as well which he did not have to do. If you're going to tell me people like J.R., Sticky Fingaz, Bosko, and Ya-Boy don't know what they're talking about, well, there's not much else to say to you.:love:

[daddyslittlegirl]

[QUOTE=heavenwaits_22]Britney came from Louisiana the state of blues music. She's stated that she loves Otis Redding, and old blue-ish music. She's also performed a lot of old style cabaret. You don't see her being all blues is my core or whatever.
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What's wrong with being influenced by that kind of music :scratch:

[terri]

Britney came from Louisiana the state of blues music. She's stated that she loves Otis Redding, and old blue-ish music. She's also performed a lot of old style cabaret. You don't see her being all blues is my core or whatever. She's influenced by a lot of things.

Actually, Louisiana, and specifically New Orleans, is known for jazz. I'm sure all artists are influenced by many genres of music. I don't see what your point is about Christina deciding to make an album that is influenced by blues and jazz?

[heavenwaits_22]

[QUOTE=heavenwaits_22]Britney came from Louisiana the state of blues music. She's stated that she loves Otis Redding, and old blue-ish music. She's also performed a lot of old style cabaret. You don't see her being all blues is my core or whatever.
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What's wrong with being influenced by that kind of music :scratch:I didn't say anything is wrong with that type of music.

Yes blues/jazz is what Louisiana is known for. Not to mention Mardi Gras, and Britney Spears.:sunny:

[daddyslittlegirl]

Okay :sunny:

[~Crybaby~]

And some of Christina's statements:

"I think nowadays, with videos and other outlets that make artists more visible, record labels tend to go with a packaged look and at times overlook some real talent."
and later...
"I look back at all my videos as a great body of work."

Can I have a source for these quotes.. I've never seen those before honestly. Where did you get those?

[britneybaby]

^ From here:
http://music.aol.com/artists/aim-celebrity-interview/christina-aguilera-page-1

I don't really want to fight with you, I just get annoyed with Christina talking about how she's a "real artist", as opposed to other artists. She's no more "real" than someone like Britney. Christina puts a big emphasis on voice making you "real" because that's what she can do best. She has to work harder at things like dance, stage presence, song writing, playing instruments, but these all require real talent and real artistry too. Also going back in time to look for a base for your new music isn't any harder than looking at current music, probably easier since current music is rapidly changing. Knowing what is going to entertain people is another talent. Britney has always been underestimated in the talent department, probably because she's incredibly beautiful and sexy and because she doesn't cater to what people think is "right". Christina probably knows this better than anyone, but instead of sticking up for Britney's talent she goes in the other direction and uses the perception to try and further her career - Britney isn't "real", I am. All the while insisting that she's Britney's friend. It's just not very nice.

[aleronihead]

^ From here:
http://music.aol.com/artists/aim-celebrity-interview/christina-aguilera-page-1

I don't really want to fight with you, I just get annoyed with Christina talking about how she's a "real artist", as opposed to other artists. She's no more "real" than someone like Britney.

I honestly don't think Christina is attempting to say that certain other performers aren't artists. I think she just takes herself very seriously as a musician and artists, and keeps stressing this about herself because she doesn't want to be a flash in the pan.

It's the media and "fans" that put the emphasize on Christina as an "artist" vs. Britney as an "entertainer".

[britneybaby]

We can agree to disagree about what Christina is trying to say about other artists. I do agree that Christina wants to be taken seriously, does she ever. The media says all kinds of things. At the end of the day both Britney and Christina's job is to entertain, no matter what label you want to put on them.

Honestly I suspect Christina has never really forgiven Britney for stealing some of her thunder, which is why she continues to try so hard to be thought of as the better of the two.

[heavenwaits_22]

Britney is more than an entertainer in my opinion. She can play an instrument pretty well. She has to have more practice at it, but at least she's making the effort, and has been credited as the sole player on the Someday track.

Britney's music is her own. It's the way she sings it, it's the way she interprets it, etc. As they say, she's not a one trick pony.

[MissA]

As is talking about "emailing" hearts to one another, talking about hitting someone, talking about being a slave to another, and "touching" yourself. All are turn-offs. But that's what a lot of fans do: they put their own judgement of celebrities into part. They shouldn't do that.

Just because what Christina's talking about turns you off doesn't make Christina less or more of a talent, a force to be reckoned with, or a useless piece of meat.

Christina, with her voice, has always wanted respect in the business. Every single artist wants this. No artist would admit that they don't want any form of respect or credibility in the music business. Every rapper either pretends or talks about being shot or being in a gang because that's the form of respect in hip hop. (Or at least mainstream hip hop).

Let's talking about Britney vs Christina, not your thoughts on Britney vs your thoughts on Christina. Look at the facts. As far as sales go, Britney has sold more than Christina. As far as credibility goes, Christina has more than Britney.

Well Said and Completely Agree.

[heavenwaits_22]

credibility is subjective. You can't argue with hard facts on sells. Britney's in the zone album received a higher percentage from various magazine critics than Stripped did.

http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/spearsbritney/inthezone?q=Britney%20Spears
http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/aguilerachristina/stripped

[MissA]

The Britney vs Christina battles are EXACTLY like the Madonna vs Mariah battles... they make no sense and are based on crap yet they're always interesting... :nc:...

Originally Posted by britneybaby
And some of Christina's statements:

"I think nowadays, with videos and other outlets that make artists more visible, record labels tend to go with a packaged look and at times overlook some real talent." How is that Christina saying she's better? it's true, record labels would prefer a 'pre-packaged' 'pretty face' 'no talent' deal like Cassie and Paris over acts that can actually carry a tune.

and later...
"I look back at all my videos as a great body of work." Once again, you make it seem like she's insinuating that her work is better than everybody else, whereas she's saying that she's proud of what she's done. If Britney had said something like that, I'm sure you would be praising her for being confident in her work.

what about Beyonce?... I'm tired of hearing her say how she writes and produces her music... when it doesn't seem like she does any more than the others... yet you don't hear them bragging about it. then she says she hopes to win an oscar before she's 30?... like she KNOWS she'll eventually win one.... don't mean to start hatin' on Bey... but she can be overrated sometimes... :o

I LUV Christina and definitely support Britney because Bey/Alicia and whomever else may have more grammies or get more respect but my money is on Brit/Xtina going down as the 2 most memorable females of this generation... Chris has the best voice of them and Brit has the best performing skills of them :D

[aleronihead]

Britney is more than an entertainer in my opinion. She can play an instrument pretty well. She has to have more practice at it, but at least she's making the effort, and has been credited as the sole player on the Someday track.

Britney's music is her own. It's the way she sings it, it's the way she interprets it, etc. As they say, she's not a one trick pony.

I could make the exact same case for Christina. And she is the executive producer of B2B.

And credibility isn't really subjective, I can't really understand that idea.

Can you stop comparing now?

[Lynzie2000jt]

Christina is a REAL artist just different from Britney.....Britney is more of an entertainer like, a circus, everyone is awed by her looks and dance moves. Christina is a different type of entertainer, like a Symphony or Opera, people are awed by the music and artistic style.....these many high class people go to.

[Britina]

Britney's music is her own. It's the way she sings it, it's the way she interprets it, etc. As they say, she's not a one trick pony.
How is Britney's music her own? It's not. Sorry, but the truth hurts. She has a team of writers, producers, musicians, etc.

The same goes for Christina.

So I don't see the point you're trying to make.

[heavenwaits_22]

Christina is a REAL artist just different from Britney.....Britney is more of an entertainer like, a circus, everyone is awed by her looks and dance moves. Christina is a different type of entertainer, like a Symphony or Opera, people are awed by the music and artistic style.....these many high class people go to.rofl please. You're just trying to underhand insult Britney.

Britney is an artist also.

[heavenwaits_22]

How is Britney's music her own? It's not. Sorry, but the truth hurts. She has a team of writers, producers, musicians, etc.

The same goes for Christina.

So I don't see the point you're trying to make.Well Someday is all on her own. She wrote/composed/ and played the piano on it. Still far more than some others have done behind the scenes.