Slavery in Israel

[Stopanimalabuse]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,129157,00.html

[db44]

And you wonder why you have your reputation?

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Sex trafficking is a problem all over the world, including the U.S.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/02/20030225.html

[LesterX]

Exactly, Dave. Human trafficking is a problem in many parts of the world, including the U.S. Yet for some odd reason, an article from two years ago focused on Israel is posted...

[Stopanimalabuse]

People would rather criticize me than criticizing actions like these. Why am I not surprised? Obviously it goes on in many other countries. However, many of these are poorer countries, and their governments are not known for human rights. Israel's government is supposed to be a believer in human rights. There's no indication that the government took much action until the US government said something. That would mean they're only taking action because of pressure and not because of a moral issue. That is an obvious reason why this was posted.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Britain 'turns blind eye' to sex trafficking. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-88831480.html

New Zealand: Sex Trafficking Increasing - No Sign Of Stopping http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0507/S00313.htm

Thai Women Trafficked into Debt Bondage in Japan
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/japan/

Germany Responds to Fears of Sex Trafficking during World Cup
http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9665

Canada an “International Embarrassment” on Sex Trafficking
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030209.html

I can find many, many more countries that aren't poor and whose governments are known for civil rights. Just name one and I'll spend two seconds and come up with a news story.

[Richard Tafoya]

Let's not forget our own Mariana Islands.

http://www.catwinternational.org/factbook/Marianas.php

[Stopanimalabuse]

And you wonder why you have your reputation?
I'd say 5 people on the LiveDaily Christina Aguilera message board and maybe 3-5 here have said I'm "anti-semetic". So, out of 1,000+ people, maybe 10 have made that claim. Others may feel that way, but they haven't said that to me. So, this "reputation" you're talking about is not really a reputation.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I can find many, many more countries that aren't poor and whose governments are known for civil rights. Just name one and I'll spend two seconds and come up with a news story.
Canada and Germany and maybe a few of the other countries have governments which have no problem arresting their people for seeing history differently than them. Reports indicate that England had tried it and certainly doesn't have a good human rights record otherwise. I believe New Zealand has tried the same thing. I question whether any government has a fantastic human rights record. Sweden is the only government that comes to mind that has a good one. I'd like to see articles regarding their government like this one.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Since you're questioning, you get to produce the evidence. Have at it.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Since you're questioning, you get to produce the evidence. Have at it.
Which evidence are you referring to? I was simply asking for an article about Sweden's human rights abuses, or of articles in which they've had something like sex slaves.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

I question whether any government has a fantastic human rights record.

I was referring to this statement.

[Stopanimalabuse]

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0208/p01s01-woeu.html
That goes into it to a degree. You can search for this subject in just about any search engine on the internet. Germany is probably the worst example. They have arrested their citizens for "Holocaust denial" yet I've heard nothing of any action they have taken against Germans who denied the German suffering from the Allies after world war 2(general estimates say 9 million murdered, 9-16 million ethnically cleansed, and 4 million raped). They are not promoting human rights in a case like that.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Human Trafficking and Modern Day Slavery

http://www.gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Sweden.htm

[DoubleEdgeSword]

All of this still doesn't explain why you chose to spotlight one particular country, Israel, when clearly many countries are dealing with this problem.

[Stopanimalabuse]

I was referring to this statement.
Well, I've never read of one. They generally stay out of wars and don't apply any tyrannical laws against their own people(that eliminates a large amount of European countries), and they help their own people when they're in need(most poor countries are poor because of their government so that eliminates most of them right there). So, that leaves the Scandanavian countries, maybe a few in Eastern Europe, and maybe a few others. I'd have to do more research on these governments to have a further say.

[Stopanimalabuse]

Human Trafficking and Modern Day Slavery

http://www.gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Sweden.htm
The article doesn't say much about what the government has done about it. It could be an example of the government allowing it, or it could be an example of the government trying to stop it but many people still find a way to go through. Obviously they won't be able to catch everybody.

[Stopanimalabuse]

All of this still doesn't explain why you chose to spotlight one particular country, Israel, when clearly many countries are dealing with this problem.
Israel is supposed to be among the worst cases, and, as I said before, it has a reputation of being for human rights while other countries which I have read about do not have that reputation.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

You're telling me that no other country has a reputation for upholding human rights except for Israel? Sorry, not buying your argument.

[LesterX]

Israel is supposed to be among the worst cases...

What is the source for this claim? According the U.S. government's annual report on human trafficking, Israel falls in the middle. The report divides countries into three tiers, with Tier 1 being the countries that are handling the problem best and Tier 3 the worst. Israel falls in Tier 2, along with 50+ other countries, including Finland. According to you, Scandinavian countries don't violate human rights, and yet Finland is placed in the same tier as the dreaded Israel. So can you explain again why you are focusing on Israel?

http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2005/46610.htm

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Canada and Germany and maybe a few of the other countries have governments which have no problem arresting their people for seeing history differently than them. Reports indicate that England had tried it and certainly doesn't have a good human rights record otherwise. I believe New Zealand has tried the same thing.

All of these countries you mentioned? Tier 1.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

To be fair, I was poking around the site, and here is the listing for 2006. The list LesterX posted was last year's.

http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2006/65985.htm

[LesterX]

Sorry. I didn't see the 2006 list.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

I don't find it as comprehensive because it doesn't allow me to link to the various countries to find out what kinds of programs each has in place today to combat these practices.

[LesterX]

You have to go to the section on country narratives. They didn't hotlink from the Tier lists the way they did in 2005, but the info. is still there.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Ah, I see. Thanks, Leslie. :)