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SparkleHugs
Feb 7th, 2007, 09:56 AM
http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/wider-death-penalty-sought/20070207094209990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Wider Death Penalty Sought
At Least Six States May Expand Use of Executions
By Emily Bazar
USA Today
(Feb. 7) -- At least a half-dozen states are considering broadening the death penalty, countering a national trend toward scaling back its use.
Lawmakers have proposed legislation that would increase the range of crimes eligible for execution. In Texas and Tennessee, for example, legislators want to include certain child molesters who did not murder their victims.

"The hope is that these monsters will see that Texas is serious about protecting children," says Rich Parsons, spokesman for Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst. Dewhurst, a Republican , is working with state senators to draft legislation that would make repeat offenders subject to capital punishment in some cases. "If they understand they could face the ultimate punishment, " they might "think twice," Parsons says.

Virginia is considering bills that would make accomplices to murder, as well as killers of judges and court witnesses, eligible for the death penalty.

"I'm a believer in the deterrent effect of the death penalty," says Republican Delegate Todd Gilbert, a state prosecutor who sponsored two of the measures. "I know a number of states are reconsidering their position on the death penalty. -- I feel confident Virginia's system is set up to work."
Lawmakers or courts have temporarily halted all executions in 11 states in the past year, most of them over concerns that lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment, says Richard Dieter of the Death Penalty Information Center, which he says takes no position on the death penalty but has been critical of how it is applied.

In December, a convicted killer in Florida took 34 minutes to die and had chemical burns on his arms after a lethal injection procedure. After the execution, then-governor Jeb Bush created a commission to study possible improvements and halted executions until the commission releases its report.

Other states with proposals to expand the death penalty:

-- Missouri. Gov. Matt Blunt said in his State of the State address last month that he wants a mandatory death penalty for the murder of law enforcement officers. Blunt, a Republican, says the state must protect its public servants and the death penalty would be a deterrent. "This is the type of crime that calls for the death penalty," he says.

Robert Blecker, a law professor at New York Law School who specializes in the death penalty, says the Supreme Court has found mandatory death sentences unconstitutional because they don't allow defendants to present mitigating evidence. Blunt says his measure will take that into account.
-- Georgia. GOP state Rep. Barry Fleming has introduced a bill to allow a judge to impose the death sentence if at least nine of 12 jurors - not all 12, as now - voted for it.

-- Utah. The House passed a bill Tuesday making murder of a child under 14 subject to execution.

State Rep. Paul Ray, a Republican, introduced a bill to allow the death penalty for killing a child during abuse, sexual assault or kidnapping, even if prosecutors cannot prove intent to kill. He expects the House to vote later this week.

"We're going to send a message that if you kill our kids in Utah, we're going to kill you," he says. "In Utah, I don't think we use the death penalty enough."

Annoyedlistner
Feb 7th, 2007, 10:51 AM
no no and no

first of all we shouldnt be giving the death penalty to anyone...its an easy out for those guys...they need to be put in a cold dark damp cell.

I have a problem with the state killing someone.....i dont agree with a state acting like God.

I personally believe these convicts will be givin their true punishement once the face the real judge, not the judges we have here on earth.

JoviFan
Feb 7th, 2007, 12:30 PM
I think it's great however they deserve to be tortured first then killed.

DoubleEdgeSword
Feb 7th, 2007, 02:05 PM
We all have a death sentence. lol Nature takes its course with each of us. I do not want to be paying the state to do it, for any reason. Lock them up for life. It's cheaper anyway.

SparkleHugs
Feb 7th, 2007, 09:32 PM
I personally have absolutely no compassion for child molestors. I really do not care in anyway what happens to them. beaten and raped in prison? who cares. not harsh enough.

to anyone against it, just out of curiosity, have you been, or known anyone very close to you who has experienced such abuse?

tiger_rascal
Feb 7th, 2007, 09:45 PM
My vote goes for torture, then locked away in a cold, dark, damp cell with only a little water and bread once a day. Just the bare minimum to keep them alive, but not well.

pinky
Feb 7th, 2007, 11:21 PM
I personally have absolutely no compassion for child molestors. I really do not care in anyway what happens to them. beaten and raped in prison? who cares. not harsh enough.

to anyone against it, just out of curiosity, have you been, or known anyone very close to you who has experienced such abuse?
I'm against the death penalty on principle. However, if I supported it for anything, this would be it.

I also have no compassion for anyone who commits this crime; I always said that if anyone did that to one of my kids, he or she would be fortunate if the police got to them first. And I meant it. The good news is that, among the prison population, inmates also have no compassion for pedophiles. They don't usually have a pleasant stay behind bars.

JoviFan
Feb 8th, 2007, 07:06 AM
I'm against the death penalty on principle. However, if I supported it for anything, this would be it.

I also have no compassion for anyone who commits this crime; I always said that if anyone did that to one of my kids, he or she would be fortunate if the police got to them first. And I meant it. The good news is that, among the prison population, inmates also have no compassion for pedophiles. They don't usually have a pleasant stay behind bars.
I agree with you however i don't want my tax money going to keeping them alive i would rather they be put to death. Depending on how old they are if they are young they could have a long time to stay in prison until they die of natural causes and that is to much tax money spent on this person. I to would kill this person on my own if this was done to my kids.

Annoyedlistner
Feb 8th, 2007, 08:23 AM
I agree with you however i don't want my tax money going to keeping them alive i would rather they be put to death. Depending on how old they are if they are young they could have a long time to stay in prison until they die of natural causes and that is to much tax money spent on this person. I to would kill this person on my own if this was done to my kids.


it actually cost more to kill someone than it does to keep them in prison for the rest of their lives.

DoubleEdgeSword
Feb 8th, 2007, 09:49 AM
I agree with you however i don't want my tax money going to keeping them alive i would rather they be put to death.

It costs more to put them to death, so that's not really a good argument for the death penalty. And since there aren't a lot of wealthy people on death row, guess who picks up the tab for the years of appeals?

JoviFan
Feb 8th, 2007, 10:07 AM
It costs more to put them to death, so that's not really a good argument for the death penalty. And since there aren't a lot of wealthy people on death row, guess who picks up the tab for the years of appeals?
Depends on how long they will actually live while on death row for example say someone 21 years old perfect health they will live a long time and yes it will cost more to house them then to kill them however someone 50 or older no it won't however it's not an argument for the death penalty i personally think they should be killed and like i said if something happened to my kids by someone like this and i found out who they were believe me "I" would KILL them myself.

DoubleEdgeSword
Feb 8th, 2007, 10:16 AM
I can't right now because I have to run out, but I'll find the statistics for you. Over the years, the costs to the taxypayers have been much higher to put someone to death than to house them.

But, if that doesn't matter to you, and if you just support the death penalty on principle, then I won't bother. Let me know if you're interested.

Regis Philbin
Feb 8th, 2007, 07:18 PM
All for it, we're starting to wuss out on enforcing the death penalty in this country.

JoviFan
Feb 9th, 2007, 07:47 AM
I can't right now because I have to run out, but I'll find the statistics for you. Over the years, the costs to the taxypayers have been much higher to put someone to death than to house them.

But, if that doesn't matter to you, and if you just support the death penalty on principle, then I won't bother. Let me know if you're interested.
No it doesn't matter to me i am all for the death penalty. Has nothing to do with the cost trust me. These people don't deserve to live forever behind bars torture them and kill them.

pinky
Feb 9th, 2007, 10:25 PM
I'm confused. You were the one who said you didn't want your tax dollars going to keeping them alive? Now you're saying that it has nothing to do with cost?

:scratch:

shining star
Feb 10th, 2007, 01:31 AM
I am definitely FOR this. 99.99% of child molesters will NEVER change and will just keep raping, molesting and torturing kids as soon as they get out of prison.

I have zero compassion for them. It disgusts me how lightly their punishments are now. People end up in prison longer for selling/using pot.

DoubleEdgeSword
Feb 10th, 2007, 01:42 AM
I agree with you there. I don't believe they can be rehabilitated. Lock them up and keep them there.

JoviFan
Feb 10th, 2007, 06:40 AM
I'm confused. You were the one who said you didn't want your tax dollars going to keeping them alive? Now you're saying that it has nothing to do with cost?

:scratch:
No i don't want my tax money going to keep these people alive however my wanted them put to death has nothing to do with the money i think they don't deserve to be alive we are talking about kids here. These people should not have any rights at all.

pinky
Feb 10th, 2007, 04:08 PM
Life sentence, no parole accomplishes the same thing without demeaning our entire society.

Unless, of course, you're concerned about paying to keep them in jail.