promote the walk

[Stripped713]

Ok when i first started coming in here there was like 3 thread and now look how many just for a little effort on our part. ok so theres only a handful of people that come in this forum but i think we can spread the word. Its really not all that productive to only discuss hanson on hanson fan sites, we need to keep bringing it here since this is one of the biggest music messege boards out there.

I have been a fan for 10 years but seeing strong enough to break has brought me out of the spell i have been in. I suppose all this time ive been ok with hanson not being that popular because it meant for a more intimate relationship between them and fans but after seeing the doc i so want them to succeed and show those stupid people how dumb they were for not working with them and giving them more artistic freedom.

I honestly do not think Hansons music is any different from the rest of the music today and it obviously doesnt take great inspirational lyrics to sell arecord because look at songs like my humps and sexyback. why do you think soooo many people ara attarcted to artists like beyonce and justin and fergie? its in part due to a mass hysteria kinda of deal. the hotter an artists is according to word of mouth the more people jump on for the ride. people follow whatever is in. so Hanson have good music and all it really takes to get people to like them is good promotion and word of mouth. so spread the word about the strong enough to break documentary, about the taking the walk doc, about the walk and its release date, and keep this forum growing and post things on other artists forums as well to get more peoples attention.

[cdmeggers]

Oh I mention Hanson at the BSB boards every now and then... haha.

[musicsdarling]

:) I'm definatly going to spread the word.

[silvergirl]

I agree with you except where you say "I honestly do not think Hansons music is any different from the rest of the music today". In my opinion, Hanson's music is much, much better than most of the music being played on the radio today. But I do agree that promoting their music is a good thing. When people actually listen to the music, they generally like it. It's hard to get people to open their ears and their minds, though.

[cdmeggers]

Yeah. Just say 'Hanson' and immediately people will think 1997 Hanson, high voices and long blonde hair, and Mmmbop. Sometimes you just have to fool people, or .... uh I dunno, I can't figure out what I'm trying to say right now haha.

[Stripped713]

I agree with you except where you say "I honestly do not think Hansons music is any different from the rest of the music today". In my opinion, Hanson's music is much, much better than most of the music being played on the radio today. But I do agree that promoting their music is a good thing. When people actually listen to the music, they generally like it. It's hard to get people to open their ears and their minds, though.
what i mean was its not the childish or unprofessional music people view them as. societys big problem is they see hanson as the mmmbop kids and cant take them seriously. if they gave them a chance they would see their music has matured and is the same if not better than the music out there. its not too far off from people like james blunt or others i cant think of right now, the only thing they have against them is that people see them as the mmbop boys. if they were introduced onto the scene as brand new artists they would hit home.

[silvergirl]

what i mean was its not the childish or unprofessional music people view them as. societys big problem is they see hanson as the mmmbop kids and cant take them seriously. if they gave them a chance they would see their music has matured and is the same if not better than the music out there. its not too far off from people like james blunt or others i cant think of right now, the only thing they have against them is that people see them as the mmbop boys. if they were introduced onto the scene as brand new artists they would hit home.

Hanson's early music is neither childish nor unprofessional, though. Middle of Nowhere got very good reviews. Rolling Stone named it one of the essential albums of the 90s. "MMMBop" was #1 on the biggest critics poll in the US for 1997, as well as being #1 on the charts of 27 countries. It was also Grammy-nominated.

I realize that you probably know all this, and that you're talking about how uninformed people view them. However, I think it's important that we all keep in mind how good Hanson and their music really are, so that we're not influenced by all the negative people.

[Stripped713]

Hanson's early music is neither childish nor unprofessional, though. Middle of Nowhere got very good reviews. Rolling Stone named it one of the essential albums of the 90s. "MMMBop" was #1 on the biggest critics poll in the US for 1997, as well as being #1 on the charts of 27 countries. It was also Grammy-nominated.

I realize that you probably know all this, and that you're talking about how uninformed people view them. However, I think it's important that we all keep in mind how good Hanson and their music really are, so that we're not influenced by all the negative people.
Look yes I am fully aware of how well middle of nowhere did however thats baed on sales and just because people buy something doesnt mean its the most lyrically deep album in the world. Look you should know from experience...anyone that wants to poke fun at hanson refers back to mmmbop ...i have had tons of people tell me sorry but they cant take hanson seriously since their music was so silly. and Its just my opinion that it didnt turn around right after mon either. I love "you never know" but the lyrics in that was very "6th grade poem" esk. I love Hanson and I am proud to say with each album the content and lyrics and story have matured but even as a fan i am objective enough to admit I see where people might have the impression their music is childish. Its not just hanson either. Look at the boy band music from back when hanson was popular. it was nsynce and backstreet boys and it was all bubblegum pop. Now bubblegum pop is out and even the youngest of teen artists are singing like adults, the lyrics are more mature and the general sound is more mature. So its not just hanson that was back with the bubblegum pop. But yet People see justin as a man and not the main dream guy of nync anymore so now all we have to do is help people to see Hanson the grown up band...even taylor said that in the SETB documentary so even THEY see what i am talking about. If you dont then Im sorry but its the truth. now instead of arguing about their past music and all this silly stuff lets get back on track with promoting their new music.

[silvergirl]

But that's just my point. It WASN'T just sales, at all. The CRITICS liked MON. And "MMMBop" was the #1 song on a CRITICS poll that year. If it was some silly, childish music, do you really think it would have received so many critical accolades?

[Stripped713]

But that's just my point. It WASN'T just sales, at all. The CRITICS liked MON. And "MMMBop" was the #1 song on a CRITICS poll that year. If it was some silly, childish music, do you really think it would have received so many critical accolades?
sigh...I dunno why u insist on arguing this point but ok.
Look at your statement...what exactly did the critics say? That it was the #1 song, that they liked the album...Did they say it was a lyrical masterpiece? NOOOOOO...Of course they are gonna say its the #1 album because it was and thats the truth. It was played 7.8 million times world wide over the spring and summer of 97, it was #1 on the charts and sold alot of copies to alot of teenage girls...that doesnt make it a deep and insightful record. Yes congradulations to Hanson for writing alot of their material at such a young age, I dont think the critics or anyone can dispute that...but what is their best lyrics ever? hell no. Its was cutsy stuff that other kids their age would like. Not the kind of music adults listen to all the time. Maybe some adults liked it but the main profit of MON was little teeny bopper girls. So It really doesnt surprise me that critics would say it was #1 because it is but that doesnt make it any less cheesy than it was and its cheesyness is the very reason people dismiss their music without an honest try...because they will always see hanson as the three kids that sang a song that made no sense. Sorry but its the truth. Why else do you think Hanson have lost their popularity and fame? why on earth would anyone that had the EXTEREME amount of popularity and promotion during their begining of the career lose the interest of so many people? because they grew up. and assumed Hanson never did.

and furthermore yes i think even in todays society critics and the general public will cling to the most simple, brainless of songs there is. The only difference is the music and general feel of music has matured and so have the artists and lyrics with it. But then they can get away with singing retard songs like my humps. And people will flock more to that because of the "adult" nature of the song and video and because people are sheep and follow whats hot theyd much rather listen to that than Give a good wholesome group like hanson a chance because they will always see them as the corney kids group of the 90s.
now...can we please move on

[silvergirl]

We can't move on if you are going to continue trying to convince me that Hanson's music is lacking in insight and intelligence. It just isn't. If you think Hanson's music is brainless, I suppose that is your prerogative. You're not going to convince me of that fallacy, though. And for the record, I wasn't a teenager when "MMMBop" was released. Neither were the critics, who didn't choose "MMMBop" as the best song of the year because it was popular, but because they felt it was a good song. Neither was Bono, of U2, who has pronounced "MMMBop" to be a brilliant song, and one of his favorites. My guess is that Bono and the critics know more about what makes a good pop song than any of Hanson's detractors do.

Since you asked what it was the critics said about Hanson's early music, I'll give you David Cantwell's review of Middle of Nowhere. Far from being a teenager, David Cantwell was both a university professor and a writer for a respected music publication when he wrote this. Here is an excerpt:

"Even if the Hanson brothers had nothing at all to say, this'd be a cool record, worth listening to just for the sheer visceral windows-down, summertime wonder of it.

But bubblegum isn't just a sound. It's also a steadfastly innocent escape-based music. And anyone who's actually listened to Middle Of Nowhere knows it is neither. The "secret that no one knows" about Middle Of Nowhere (to lift a line from the "Single Of The Summer") is that the entire album is about loss and how to move on in its wake.

"MMMBop," a song about how unpredictable and tenuous our lives really are ("In an mmmbop, they're gone"), is the only most obvious example. "

You can read his entire review here (http://www.angelfire.com/hi/MyLittleHansonPage/article2.html).
And I think you'd find it highly interesting.

To sum up: if you want to continue slagging off Hanson's early music, don't expect me to agree with you. We can agree to disagree and go on, but I'm old enough and have been listening to pop music long enough that you're not going to convince me that Hanson's early music is in any way worse than 99% of the music played on the radio. In fact, it is better than most of the music on the radio. And we can continue arguing about this, or you can accept the fact that I feel this way (and that I'm in pretty good company!)

[Stripped713]

I am sorry mabye you misunderstand me. I am not saying Hansons music lacks insight. I am not saying mmmbop or any of their other songs were bad songs. They are good songs, and yes mmmbop made Hanson a one hit wonder, it was a catchy tune and was popular all over the worlds with lots of teens and maybe some adults. But if you are honestly going to sit here and say its a lyrical masterpiece or its the best song theyve written or one of the deepest songs of our times you are nuts, because it isnt. Ask Hanson, Im sure they would agree that they have come along way since then in writing. I am sure they will always be thankful for mmmbop because it was the hit song and it didnt get their foot in the door so that they could have the artistic freedom they do now. But it still doesnt make it the most inspirationally deep song on the planet.

Look I think its wonderful that you love it so much. I do too, in fact id probly get mad if they didnt play it at my concert because its the song that bonds hanson fans everywhere and takes me back to being 12 again. But I am grown up enough and understand music enough to know that Hanson have come along way lyrically and musically since then. And yes there is a lot of stupid crap on the radio today but there is also some songs that are not far off from hanson's as far as content and lyrical quality. I love Hanson and they are a great band and I respect them for what their do, and they will always be my favorite band, but as a person who studies music...especially more complex music like jazz and blues, I understand that Hanson are far from being the most skilled mucisians on song writers of the world. Now I dont wanna ruin your vision of them but its the truth and when you come to understand music better you will see what I mean.

and btw if their past albums and their lack of maturity arnt the reason they arnt the shiznit now then please do tell me why cuz id like to hear your theory

all in all the only thing I am trying to say is, Hanson have great songs, great music, very talented and have alot to offer the music industry, but their main reason for not being taken seriously is because people view them as the child group from the 90s with a silly song like mmmbop. and as time goes on their music, vocals and instrumentation improves but they still have much to learn and much room for improvement.

[silvergirl]

First of all: please don't lecture me. You don't know who I am; you don't know how much I know about music. Please don't presume that you necessarily know more than I do on the topic.

Second: Hanson are not one hit wonders. They have had three top ten hits (including "MMMBop") and one top 20 hit. In no universe can a band with that number of hits on the upper end of the chart be considered a one hit wonder.

Finally: you want to know my theory as to why Hanson are not now on the top of the heap? Fine. You hinted at it at one point when you alluded to people being "sheep". Way back in 1997, Hanson were a huge cultural phenomenom, with a brilliant little song which brought fun back into a bleak pop music scene. They were a very young band, though, with an untested manager who had never before managed a band, and neither the band nor their manager knew how to keep the momentum going. They made some poor decisions (i.e. taking too long to release the follow-up to MON, releasing too many filler albums in between), and before they knew it, they were no longer "the next big thing". In a word, Hanson had gone out of style. The masses who had jumped onto the "MMMBop" bandwagon suddenly wouldn't be caught dead listening to Hanson. They could have released music as good as The Beatles's at that point, with lyrics more profound than Dylan's, and all the little girls still would have responded by saying, "Hanson? Ewwwwwww! They're gaaaay!" The popularity decline had nothing to do with the quality of the music. In fact, This Time Around was a country mile ahead of most of the albums above it on the Billboard lists, both musically and lyrically. Were they "lyrical masterpieces"? Perhaps not, but are you prepared to label the more successful albums of that era "deep", "insightful", or "lyrical masterpieces"? And is it really necessary for a pop song to be a "lyrical masterpiece", anyway?

[Stripped713]

I'm not lecturing you, just sharing my thoughts. Yes you and I know Hanson had a few hits, yes any good Hanson fan knows but but come on, the rest of the world remembers them for 1 thing, and that my friend is what a one hit wonder is defined by...the general population. Alot of "one hit wonders" had other hits as well im sure, but when you blow the world away with that one catchy tune its hard to be recognized as anything else.

But this is getting way to deep. Because all I said is that Hansons music is not that different from the rest of the world. They sing about the same stuff everyone else does, love, life, friendship and music. They are not exactly the most lyrically deep or inspirational band but they also arnt the cheesiest either. I am saying that their music shouldnt be hard for the public to digest because its not the bubblegum pop it used to be, their lyrics have matured and they have grown as artists since their mmmbop days. I really dont understand why this is such an argumentative point because its the truth. Are you honestly gonna sit here and say their music has not grown and mature in 10 years? are you honestly gonna say the walk isnt much lyrically better and musically mature compared to MON? Because thats all i was trying to say. it doesnt matter what you and I think, what i said is what i meant that the public sees Hanson as "gay" as you put it, cheesy, unprofessional, childish or bubblegum pop music. They refuse to get past mmmbop. They refuse to accept that hanson do have great music that is both lyrically and musically mature all because of what hanson remind the general public of...MMMBOP> ok? Its not about what I say their music is or isnt or what it used to be or wasnt,.Im telling you what the general non fan public sees them as and its fact not fiction

[silvergirl]

I looked up "one hit wonder (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/one-hit%20wonder)" in the dictionary. The definition is:
"an individual or group with only one success, such as a hit song, bestselling book, etc."
No mention of what the general population thinks. And if the general population is so obviously wrong, why adopt their definition?

I honestly think that some Hanson fans spend too much time worrying about what non-Hanson fans think, and why they think it. And they worry about it so much that they end up internalizing it, and making themselves quite unhappy about it.

I agree that we should promote the music. We should promote it because it's good music, not because we think it's better than their older music. And that's how I see the situation.

[Stripped713]

I looked up "one hit wonder (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/one-hit%20wonder)" in the dictionary. The definition is:
"an individual or group with only one success, such as a hit song, bestselling book, etc."
No mention of what the general population thinks. And if the general population is so obviously wrong, why adopt their definition?

I honestly think that some Hanson fans spend too much time worrying about what non-Hanson fans think, and why they think it. And they worry about it so much that they end up internalizing it, and making themselves quite unhappy about it.

I agree that we should promote the music. We should promote it because it's good music, not because we think it's better than their older music. And that's how I see the situation.
well if we shouldnt care what non fans think then why bother promote it?? your not making sense. the only thing you are making is a bigger deal about my opinions than there really is.

[silvergirl]

No, you're not getting what I'm saying. I believe in playing the music for people. If they like it too, that's great! If they don't like it, well, that's the way it goes. Not everybody likes the same thing. Hanson's music is good music, and it would still be just as good whether it was the most popular music on the planet, or whether the only people who liked it were the people who post on this board.

[Stripped713]

No, you're not getting what I'm saying. I believe in playing the music for people. If they like it too, that's great! If they don't like it, well, that's the way it goes. Not everybody likes the same thing. Hanson's music is good music, and it would still be just as good whether it was the most popular music on the planet, or whether the only people who liked it were the people who post on this board.
that may be true but the point is...how can we get people to listen to their music and give it an honest chance to say they like it or dont like it when they all have this prejudice view based on hansons old music? see what I mean? I mean thats the biggest problem. Its not so much people deciding rather they like the music or not, its actually getting them to give it a chance. and u know why they wont give it a chance? because they have a certain view on hanson based on their old music. I started a poll on what people think when they think of Hanson and so far the majority thinks "one hit wonder" and in second place its "i heard a few songs but all cheesy bubblegum pop"

Ok? so I try to get these people to just give it a chance, i try to promote the walk but the biggest obstacle is people laughing in my face because of songs like mmmbop.

[silvergirl]

So what if they laugh about "MMMBop"? We have the last laugh. How many other bands had a critically acclaimed, Grammy nominated song before they were even old enough to vote?

And when I play Hanson for people, I don't discuss the band's older songs with them. Why would I? I don't even tell them who they're about to listen to. I just play the music. If they like it and ask who they're listening to, I tell them it's Hanson. So far, I haven't heard any negative reactions. Surprise at times, but not negativity. Then again.... the people I play music for are adults. None of them were in middle school when it suddenly became very important for all middle school students to hate Hanson.

[Stripped713]

So what if they laugh about "MMMBop"? We have the last laugh. How many other bands had a critically acclaimed, Grammy nominated song before they were even old enough to vote?

And when I play Hanson for people, I don't discuss the band's older songs with them. Why would I? I don't even tell them who they're about to listen to. I just play the music. If they like it and ask who they're listening to, I tell them it's Hanson. So far, I haven't heard any negative reactions. Surprise at times, but not negativity. Then again.... the people I play music for are adults. None of them were in middle school when it suddenly became very important for all middle school students to hate Hanson.
well im an adult and was still in middle school when it became important to hate hanson. and the people i try to show it to are adults as well but i dont think we should have to trick people into listening to it, i dunno it really doesnt matter anyways my opinion is my opinion and it stands and your opinion is yours. so i guess like u said we shud agree to disagree. I feel that hansons music although very popular was cheesy and so do alot of other people and i belive that is what holds hanson back from the respect they deserve, but i also know people fail to realize that hanson were very young when theyr wrote that song and have grown since then. so anyways ita a dilema but all we can do is continue to try to promote the walk and do our best to help Hanson gain back their respect

[silvergirl]

About the poll you started on the Aguilera board.... what exactly were you expecting to prove with that? It's hardly a scientific poll. It didn't exactly present Hanson or their fans in a very good light. And if that's me you're talking about there, you're totally not understanding what I'm trying to say. I certainly never blamed Hanson's decline on their management.

I don't know if you're a Hanson.net member or not, but just out of curiosity, I did a search on the "Are You Listening?" board for threads about Christina Aguilera. What I found was a thread called something like "Does anybody on this board NOT like Britney, Christina, BSB, NSync?" There were three pages of responses to it, mostly people saying that all of those artists were pretty worthless. Do you believe that the fact that Hanson fans said that on a message board proves anything about Christina Aguilera?

[Stripped713]

About the poll you started on the Aguilera board.... what exactly were you expecting to prove with that? It's hardly a scientific poll. It didn't exactly present Hanson or their fans in a very good light. And if that's me you're talking about there, you're totally not understanding what I'm trying to say. I certainly never blamed Hanson's decline on their management.

I don't know if you're a Hanson.net member or not, but just out of curiosity, I did a search on the "Are You Listening?" board for threads about Christina Aguilera. What I found was a thread called something like "Does anybody on this board NOT like Britney, Christina, BSB, NSync?" There were three pages of responses to it, mostly people saying that all of those artists were pretty worthless. Do you believe that the fact that Hanson fans said that on a message board proves anything about Christina Aguilera?
yah it proves the same thing that they are just as prejudice about christinas music as christina fans are about them.

look why do you keep trying to argue this? what did tay say at the end of setb?
he said because of them being introduced at such a young age they need to show the world that they are older now. its basically the same principle. they do not want the world to always remember them as mmmbop, they want to show them they are not the kids they started out as, that they have grown and so has their music. so Hanson see it, I see it, I dont understand why its so hard for you to see it. but I dont really care rather u do or dont and I keep trying to end this debate and move on to actually doing something productive like what hanson wants :to reintroduce hanson as older more mature musicians with more mature music and content for their album, to reintroduce Hanson as they have grown and changed for the better. so thats how i am trying to promote the walk...the way hanson themselves want to present themselves to the world and u can either do that or do it your own way i really dont care just as long as its done is all that matters but dont slam me for agreeing with hanson that the fact that they were so young and their music was so immature compared to now has had a huge impact on how the world sees them

[silvergirl]

Just one question: since you believe that Hanson are trying to distance themselves from the "immature" music they made years ago, what do you make of the fact that they are planning to record a live acoustic version of Middle of Nowhere next month? Wouldn't that seem to suggest that they do indeed value those songs pretty highly?

[Stripped713]

Just one question: since you believe that Hanson are trying to distance themselves from the "immature" music they made years ago, what do you make of the fact that they are planning to record a live acoustic version of Middle of Nowhere next month? Wouldn't that seem to suggest that they do indeed value those songs pretty highly?
sigh..why is this that important to you to keep arguing? but if you must have answer well lets see their fanbase that they have now mostly allo started out with mon and most fans love the older hits at the concerts from mon so it doesnt surprise me they would record something that like just for some extra money or as a ten year anniversary deal. I never said they didnt appreciate their first record, i know for almost every artist the first record is a foot in the door that makes their career what it is today. and Hanson nor I can dispute the fact that MON will always be special for that reason. I am sure that record and the songs on it mean alot to hanson, I never said that MON didnt mean anything to them or they dont like it or care about it so stop putting words in my mouth. I simply said that hanson know their music has grown and matured since then. there is a difference you know between liking something and having an opinion on it. For example in my opinion MON was cheesy and immature compared to hansons new music and yet that doesnt stop me from liking it. As for the rest of the world for some it has. For hanson I am sure they like MON and will always hold it dear but that doesnt mean they think its their best work or that it is just as mature as their new music. I mean ike said about the walk needing to me MON, TTA and Underneath because they are the same band at the core. and thats the truth and i respect them for it. But as artists /song writers they HAVE IMPROVED GREATLY since MON. as singers and musicians THEY HAVE IMPROVED GREATLY since then and thats just a fact.

I really dont even understand this anymore or why we keep having this debate. MON wasnt bad music but its an undenyable fact that their soning writing, lyrics, talent as musicians and singers has improved greatly since then and we need to show the world that they have grown since then. or at least thats what i try to do, like i said do what you want i guess

[silvergirl]

Well, believe it or not, I have not been trying to argue with you. I've actually been trying to tell you something. But you either don't "get" what I'm saying, or you don't believe me, or you don't think it's important. I'm not sure where the disconnect is. So I'm going to try one more time, and then I'm just going to stop talking, which is probably what you want anyway.

Hanson's early music is NOT universally despised. It is NOT liked only by teenagers, or only by young adults who were teenagers when it was released and now see it as nostalgia. Many highly respected critics, such as Rob Sheffield of Rolling Stone and David Cantwell of No Depression, have very high respect for the music of Middle of Nowhere. Many respected musicians, such as Bono of U2, have praised the music of Middle of Nowhere. If somebody else thinks of it as being "cheesy", that's their prerogative. I don't, never have, and never will see that music as being cheesy. Most people who are in the pop music field and have real knowledge of pop music, also don't see Middle of Nowhere as being cheesy.

That's all I've been trying to say. And if you don't come back with an argument against that, then the argument will be over.

[Stripped713]

Well, believe it or not, I have not been trying to argue with you. I've actually been trying to tell you something. But you either don't "get" what I'm saying, or you don't believe me, or you don't think it's important. I'm not sure where the disconnect is. So I'm going to try one more time, and then I'm just going to stop talking, which is probably what you want anyway.

Hanson's early music is NOT universally despised. It is NOT liked only by teenagers, or only by young adults who were teenagers when it was released and now see it as nostalgia. Many highly respected critics, such as Rob Sheffield of Rolling Stone and David Cantwell of No Depression, have very high respect for the music of Middle of Nowhere. Many respected musicians, such as Bono of U2, have praised the music of Middle of Nowhere. If somebody else thinks of it as being "cheesy", that's their prerogative. I don't, never have, and never will see that music as being cheesy. Most people who are in the pop music field and have real knowledge of pop music, also don't see Middle of Nowhere as being cheesy.

That's all I've been trying to say. And if you don't come back with an argument against that, then the argument will be over.
Lol but not arguing would mean my acceptance of what you have to say and I dont.
I never said it was universally despised...please show me where I EVER said that. I never said that it was only liked my teens and kids, I said that was the majority that it was popular with. I thinks its wonderful that some critics praised the music on MON but I am sure in some place and time there were critiques to counter those praises with bad reviews. So thats just a matter of opinion.

Ok so you say if someone else thinkgs its cheesy well that someone else is the general public dear. Yes Hanson still get good reviews from some small time writers and yes there are many fans who love Hansons music and respect it. But you have said yourself why people stopped liking Hanson and it was according to you because in middle school it became cool to hate Hanson...well why the hell do you think that is dear? Because if they had remained the hot band, if they had maintaned the appeal of other artists in their time such as justin and britney and christina, then we wouldnt have this problem now would we?

So I am going to say this ONE MORE TIME. MON was a good album especially for their first album and especially for being written at such a young age. I realize it did well on the charts but that was primarily because of millions of screaming girls buying their albums and requesting their songs, sorry but when I liked Hanson as a young teen I never met one single adult who listened to their music. I liked MON and so does Hanson and all their fans and people who arnt even fans anymore...but they outgrew the music of MON and have pegged Hanson under the song mmmbop and fail to realize that they are capable of better. No one likes them anymore accept us..The music on MON was good yes, but the lyrical maturity is childish compared to now i mean come on...even TTA had some poor lyrics...the lyrics in you dont know are so stupid. I love the song but the lyrics are stupid. The lyrics in man from milwakee are stupid, again love the song but stupid, same with mmmbop, love the song but its a cheesy song and thats all there is to it, thats my oinion and you cant change it and its the opinion of the general public.

Now I am glad you are finally done arguing about this because I am too, we just arnt going to see eye to eye and I think its probly the dumbest thing Ive ever debated anyways because the main point is that you and I both love and support Hanson, we both wish to promote the walk and we both want them to be successfull. why care so much about a silly difference of opinion on their past music.

[silvergirl]

I figured you wouldn't be able to resist continuing to argue! However, I no longer care. Signing off.

[Stripped713]

I figured you wouldn't be able to resist continuing to argue! However, I no longer care. Signing off.
dear its not an agurement please just cool down ok? you are getting way to serious about this. now i know the net is a cold place that makes ppl come off harsher then they are so dont take what i say the wrong way. its just my opinion. I do not agree with you and hey thats what makes the world go round. like i said the important thing is were both fans right? ok so lets just put this behind us and be cool ok?