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Richard Tafoya
May 24th, 2007, 01:03 PM
Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/23/AR2007052301780_pf.html

More than three months into a U.S.-Iraqi security offensive designed to curtail sectarian violence in Baghdad (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/related-topics.html/Baghdad?tid=informline) and other parts of Iraq (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/countries/iraq.html?nav=el), Health Ministry statistics show that such killings are rising again.

From the beginning of May until Tuesday, 321 unidentified corpses, many dumped and showing signs of torture and execution, have been found across the Iraqi capital, according to morgue data provided by a Health Ministry official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information. The data showed that the same number of bodies were found in all of January, the month before the launch of the Baghdad security plan.

Such killings are a signature practice of Shiite militias, although Sunni insurgents are also known to execute victims. The number of found bodies is a key indicator of the level of sectarian violence, but the statistics also include some who died from causes unrelated to the political situation.

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The rise in sectarian violence has followed a recent increase in mass-casualty suicide attacks and car bombings that have targeted mostly Shiite areas in Baghdad and other parts of the country. U.S. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/related-topics.html/United+States?tid=informline) officials have acknowledged that they have had little success in curtailing such attacks, which have occurred with greater frequency since the start of the security plan than before.


In the 14 weeks preceding the start of the plan on Feb. 14, at least 821 people died in 11 attacks -- typically suicide car bombings -- that killed more than 20 people at a time, according to a Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/related-topics.html/The+Washington+Post+Company?tid=informline) analysis. There have been at least 20 such attacks in the 14 weeks since the start of the plan, causing a death toll of at least 1,098, the analysis showed.

ConnieB
May 24th, 2007, 10:59 PM
Of course the killings won't stop. Americans are calling for a withdraw and so is congress. Liberals and the media are playing right into their hands. The terrorist knows if they keep it up, we'll eventually give up.

LesterX
May 24th, 2007, 11:20 PM
Is there anything for which you don't blame "liberals and the media"? Has your car ever broken down on the freeway? Have you ever had the flu? By all means, tell us how "liberals and the media" were responsible, since clearly they are responsible for all life's problems.

Yep, the violence in Iraq is all the fault of the liberals and the media. Nothing to do with the fact that Bush's strategy for Iraq has been a disaster from Day 1. His administration bears no responsibility whatsoever for the nightmare that is Iraq. :rolleyes:

Richard Tafoya
May 24th, 2007, 11:23 PM
Darn that Congress and the liberals and the media, following the lead of the majority of Americans.

And now, darn that Bush, fearful that history will view him as a failure, easing up on his "stay the course" deathgrip and saying "you now, troop withdrawals seem more and more like a good idea."

pinky
May 25th, 2007, 02:06 PM
Of course the killings won't stop. Americans are calling for a withdraw and so is congress. Liberals and the media are playing right into their hands. The terrorist knows if they keep it up, we'll eventually give up.
How many insurgent attacks occurred in February, 2003. Connie?

Sunflowergirl
May 25th, 2007, 02:24 PM
Connie's behavior is very familiar... posting right-wing propaganda and then not responding when confronted with facts. I'm beginning to think Regis has a twin sister. Or is this just the conservative strategy of the day?

Incident
Nov 25th, 2007, 07:02 PM
Richard, I noticed you have not posted a follow up to this news story, now that the surge has been so successful, beyond even most Republicans hopes, why?

Richard Tafoya
Nov 25th, 2007, 09:00 PM
Updates abound.

Here in June (http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=582449)

More in June (http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=585706)

Something in July (http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=586307)

Here in August (http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=590047)

Here in August (http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=593262)

More in August (http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=592635)

Here in September (http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=593598)

Here again in September (http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=593774)

Something in October (http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=598986)

And here's a numerical update from November (http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=605149)

Ultimately, I guess it comes down to anyone's definition of success.