View Full Version : Secret Document: U.S. Fears Terror 'Spectacular' Planned
Richard Tafoya
Jul 1st, 2007, 11:53 PM
ABC News:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3336148
A secret U.S. law enforcement report, prepared for the Department of Homeland Security, warns that al Qaeda is planning a terror "spectacular" this summer, according to a senior official with access to the document.
"This is reminiscent of the warnings and intelligence we were getting in the summer of 2001," the official told ABCNews.com.
U.S. officials have kept the information secret, and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said today on ABC News' "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" that the United States did not have "have any specific credible evidence that there's an attack focused on the United States at this point."
As ABCNews.com reported, U.S. law enforcement officials received intelligence reports two weeks ago warning of terror attacks in Glasgow and Prague, the Czech Republic, against "airport infrastructure and aircraft."
The warnings apparently never reached officials in Scotland, who said this weekend they had received "no advance intelligence" that Glasgow might be a target.
Regis Philbin
Jul 2nd, 2007, 01:48 AM
There is no War on Terror. It's just a bumper sticker slogan the Bush Administration uses for propaganda purposes.
Richard Tafoya
Jul 2nd, 2007, 01:54 AM
President Bush:
“We actually misnamed the war on terror, it ought to be the struggle against ideological extremists who do not believe in free societies who happen to use terror as a weapon to try to shake the conscience of the free world.” [Link]
Donald Rumsfeld:
“I don’t think I would have called it the war on terror. … Why do I say that? Because the word ‘war’ conjures up World War II more than it does the Cold War. It creates a level of expectation of victory and an ending within 30 or 60 minutes of a soap opera. It isn’t going to happen that way. Furthermore, it is not a ‘war on terror.’ Terror is a weapon of choice for extremists who are trying to destabilize regimes and (through) a small group of clerics, impose their dark vision on all the people they can control. So ‘war on terror’ is a problem for me.” [Link]
Former Joint Chiefs Chairman Richard Myers:
“General Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the National Press Club on Monday that he had ‘objected to the use of the term war on terrorism before, because if you call it a war, then you think of people in uniform as being the solution.’ He said the threat instead should be defined as violent extremism, with the recognition that ‘terror is the method they use.’” [Link]
DoubleEdgeSword
Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:39 AM
Richard, you'll just confuse Rus.., err Regis. Jeez, kinda of hard to tell the two apart.
Oh wait, that's Rush's plan. *smacks forehead* More Rushies = more advertisers = more money in his pocket.
DoubleEdgeSword
Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:43 AM
Hahaha! I was going to call them Ru****es (think Hannityites), but see what happens?
Ooo! Ooo! RushHannites? lmao!!
db44
Jul 2nd, 2007, 09:02 AM
See what happens when they start having the debates early? The GOP's scare schedule gets a little out of whack.
Still plenty of time to get people all nice and worried for '08 though.
tiger_rascal
Jul 2nd, 2007, 09:24 AM
Of course something else is planned. Remember last summer about the cell phone thing? Well you only heard about it once on the local news and next thing you know the FBI says its nothing and all is quiet. Well guess what, that cell phone thing is coming up again this summer. How do I know, well lets just say its my job and the local authorities have already been informed of suspicious activity, I just hope they alerted the FBI to the situation. I was tempted to call the FBI myself. Something is just not right with whats going on.
DoubleEdgeSword
Jul 2nd, 2007, 09:27 AM
What cell phone thing?
tiger_rascal
Jul 2nd, 2007, 10:35 AM
Exactly!
Last summer, in the Mid-Ohio Valley, some guys from MI were arrested for trying to buy a lot of Tracphones, pre-paid cell phones that can not be traced. Their car was full of them. The FBI stepped in and said it was all about drugs not terrorism. The End.
But its happening again in our area. One middle-eastern looking guy was trying to get his hands on over 500 Tracphones in just one store!!! And thats not all. They are working in groups, hitting all the little stores, because the arrest last year happened at a Wal-Mart.
Why do they want that many cell phones?! What are they using them for?!
db44
Jul 2nd, 2007, 11:19 AM
One middle-eastern looking guy
Profile much?
Richard Tafoya
Jul 2nd, 2007, 11:40 AM
Why do they want that many cell phones?! What are they using them for?!
Profit. Buy at Wal-Mart and put 'em on Ebay or re-sell them in a neighborhood convenience store at a mark-up. Lots of people do that.
tiger_rascal
Jul 2nd, 2007, 11:43 AM
DUH! Dave. When you are identifying a suspicious person to the authorities they generally want a description, so if the guy was black, I would have said a black guy, if he was white I would have said a white guy. And it was not just the color of the skin, but the accent as well. Add to that the out of state license and travelling from store to store, yup, something is up.
tiger_rascal
Jul 2nd, 2007, 11:48 AM
That was another excuse Richard, but I dont believe it.
You do the math. 500+ cell phones at $20 a pop. $10,000+!!! That does not sound like a casual re-seller trying to make a little profit. Add to that the gas prices travelling from state to state and other expenses, you've got quite a bit invested for a casual re-seller.
db44
Jul 2nd, 2007, 11:54 AM
DUH! Dave. When you are identifying a suspicious person to the authorities they generally want a description, so if the guy was black, I would have said a black guy, if he was white I would have said a white guy. And it was not just the color of the skin, but the accent as well. Add to that the out of state license and travelling from store to store, yup, something is up.
Would you have been suspicious if a black guy or a white guy had been doing the buying? Or if he spoke perfect English (not that our president even can :rolleyes: )
Richard Tafoya
Jul 2nd, 2007, 12:09 PM
That was another excuse Richard, but I dont believe it.
You do the math. 500+ cell phones at $20 a pop. $10,000+!!! That does not sound like a casual re-seller trying to make a little profit. Add to that the gas prices travelling from state to state and other expenses, you've got quite a bit invested for a casual re-seller.
AP:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060911/news_1n11phone.html
COLUMBUS, Ohio – “Don't leave a phone behind. To make real money buy them all,” urged an e-mail by Larry Riedeman of Larry's Cell in Altamonte Springs, Fla., that was included in a lawsuit against that entity by TracFone Wireless Inc. “Thousands a day if you can!”
Riedeman and other small companies are considered the middlemen in a system that starts with buyers snapping up phones at retailers such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and ends with resale of the phones overseas.
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Another buyer, Bilal Mustafa, 22, of Minneapolis, told The Associated Press he travels around the Midwest a week at a time in search of phones. He and a buddy will buy four to six at once at small-town department stores, as many as 250 a day.
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The middlemen indicate an apparently insatiable hunger for the phones, with profits in some cases of 100 percent for a handset that retails for as little as $20.
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The Riedeman e-mails promise earnings of $10,000 a month for aggressive buyers. Riedeman offered bonuses to such suppliers, from $120 to anyone bringing in 400 phones a month to $2,000 for someone buying 2,000 a month, according to court documents.
tiger_rascal
Jul 2nd, 2007, 12:50 PM
Yes, Dave, was that not clear in my post? Its not how the person looks or talks, its the fact they try to break store rules by trying to buy more phones than allowed, and then when refused goes ballistic on the cashiers. :rolleyes:
The things people do for money. Perhaps a real job would work better.
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