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kortney1386
Sep 12th, 2007, 12:40 PM
#1, I think its VERY nice, but Why of all people is 50cent defending our britney? I thought he woulda been one of the first to have somethin rude to say.

#2 Why does that hairy guy from the foo fighters hate britney so much? When asked "who are u least excited to see tonight" He says Britney. Then he says "everyones so excited for her, return but WHY??" obviously not every1 likes britney But no one stressed it that nite at the VMAs but him.

#3 When was it ever ok to talk about someones children? im so used to hearing jokes bout brit, i jus ignore it or roll my eyes, but sara silverman went to far when callin brits sons "mistakes"

#4 at the pre-show paris was excited to see britney perform... now are they still friends? were they ever? That whole relationship confuses me.

anyway im pretty much over the VMAs this year but these few things were still on my mind.

tiger_rascal
Sep 12th, 2007, 12:42 PM
The baby joke was uncalled for. Pathetic attempt for a laugh at Britneys babies expense.

Cubasterd
Sep 12th, 2007, 01:50 PM
#1, I think its VERY nice, but Why of all people is 50cent defending our britney? I thought he woulda been one of the first to have somethin rude to say.

#2 Why does that hairy guy from the foo fighters hate britney so much? When asked "who are u least excited to see tonight" He says Britney. Then he says "everyones so excited for her, return but WHY??" obviously not every1 likes britney But no one stressed it that nite at the VMAs but him.

#3 When was it ever ok to talk about someones children? im so used to hearing jokes bout brit, i jus ignore it or roll my eyes, but sara silverman went to far when callin brits sons "mistakes"

#4 at the pre-show paris was excited to see britney perform... now are they still friends? were they ever? That whole relationship confuses me.

anyway im pretty much over the VMAs this year but these few things were still on my mind.

1. I think 50cent is being asked about Britney, so he is either forced to defend or attack her. It boils down to respect. Britney has respect from her peers and always has.
2. Maybe he doesn't respect her. They're not really musical peers either. lol
3. I laughed at it. :noway: But I was laughing at Sarah because noone else was laughing at her funny yet pathetic jokes.
4. I don't think they ever stopped being friends. They just stopped being photographed together.

Xtina4Prez
Sep 12th, 2007, 02:33 PM
#1, I think its VERY nice, but Why of all people is 50cent defending our britney? I thought he woulda been one of the first to have somethin rude to say.

#2 Why does that hairy guy from the foo fighters hate britney so much? When asked "who are u least excited to see tonight" He says Britney. Then he says "everyones so excited for her, return but WHY??" obviously not every1 likes britney But no one stressed it that nite at the VMAs but him.

#3 When was it ever ok to talk about someones children? im so used to hearing jokes bout brit, i jus ignore it or roll my eyes, but sara silverman went to far when callin brits sons "mistakes"

#4 at the pre-show paris was excited to see britney perform... now are they still friends? were they ever? That whole relationship confuses me.

anyway im pretty much over the VMAs this year but these few things were still on my mind.

#1 50's album is just being released the last thing he wants to do is piss of white America. by dissing a white woman while she is down. most of 50's fans are white kids from the burbs.. they love the guy.


#2 Don't know maybe he is bitter because he did not open the show or maybe he is bitter cus Britney is known all over the world and he is know as " the hairy guy from the foo fighters" lol

#3 I'ts not okay, but if it were a male who said it or had she not BOMBED.. people would not care about the jokes.

#4 got me there I have no opinion on that lol

heavenwaits_22
Sep 12th, 2007, 04:05 PM
Actually 50 cent does like Britney. Not just when he has an album out. Before this album was out or even made he was defending her.

Virgo
Sep 12th, 2007, 04:18 PM
Well Britney had a reputation for being a "sweet southern girl." Since the beginning, celebrities have been pointing that out and picking her over Christina (the talented one) simply because she was "sweet and always smiling." Now after all her triflin behavior over the past years, her peers realize what kinda person she really is.

lebma88
Sep 12th, 2007, 04:58 PM
the sarah silverman comment on her kids was wrong 100%...you don't talk about someones kids regardless of what they've done, it's not right at all...her jokes were NOT funny :greyno:

Cubasterd
Sep 12th, 2007, 08:39 PM
Well Britney had a reputation for being a "sweet southern girl." Since the beginning, celebrities have been pointing that out and picking her over Christina (the talented one) simply because she was "sweet and always smiling." Now after all her triflin behavior over the past years, her peers realize what kinda person she really is.

Thats not true. Celebrities have always chosen Britney over Christina for the same reason why the majority of non celebrities choose to buy Britneys albums over Christinas. Britney makes better music. :p Christina has no memorable hits even though she is the one with more chart topping hits than Britney. :laugh: Her music isn't that great and even celebrities can see that. I bet Diddy never works with her again.lol

Cubasterd
Sep 12th, 2007, 08:41 PM
the sarah silverman comment on her kids was wrong 100%...you don't talk about someones kids regardless of what they've done, it's not right at all...her jokes were NOT funny :greyno:

I thought it was funny but it was 100% incorrect. Britney was married when she had her children so you can't call them 'mistakes'. She was a married women having sex with her husband, I'm sure she knew pregnancy could happen.

kortney1386
Sep 12th, 2007, 09:02 PM
^ thats true. But even if she wasnt married, shes a grown woman. And even if a child isnt "planned" they are far from mistakes. Britney may not be 100% ok yet but u can tell she loves those boys

Virgo
Sep 12th, 2007, 09:07 PM
ONYD!:roll: Christina's memoriable hits are: Genie, What A Girl Wants, Come On Over Baby, Lady Marmalade, Dirrty (ww, the video was a hit in the US) , Beautiful and ANOM. Britney only has BOMT, Oops, Slave and Toxic..and maybe Do Somethin.

speedyforme
Sep 13th, 2007, 05:38 AM
Thats not true. Celebrities have always chosen Britney over Christina for the same reason why the majority of non celebrities choose to buy Britneys albums over Christinas. Britney makes better music. :p Christina has no memorable hits even though she is the one with more chart topping hits than Britney. :laugh: Her music isn't that great and even celebrities can see that. I bet Diddy never works with her again.lol
Uh I highly doubt celeb choose Britney for her MUSIC...

If they did, Brit would have won grammies upon grammies...cause you know, artists actually vote for the winners

tiger_rascal
Sep 13th, 2007, 06:29 AM
Goes to show how much you know. Britney has already won a Grammy. Not that it matters. Awards these days are about as important as sales.

speedyforme
Sep 13th, 2007, 07:34 AM
Goes to show how much you know. Britney has already won a Grammy. Not that it matters. Awards these days are about as important as sales.
HENCE why I used grammies with a plural

I figured if people important enough to choose Brit over Christina, they would at least vote for her to win...action speaks louder than words

tiger_rascal
Sep 13th, 2007, 07:39 AM
Before, the arguement was that Britney had not won a Grammy. Now, thats not good enough, she has to win dozens?

:rolleyes:

Get over it.

JanLuvsAJnBrok
Sep 13th, 2007, 08:05 AM
the only problem I have is with Britney's children being insulted, they are going through enough with their parents divorced and all the other things they are dealing with. They are only children.

Cubasterd
Sep 13th, 2007, 11:26 AM
ONYD!:roll: Christina's memoriable hits are: Genie, What A Girl Wants, Come On Over Baby, Lady Marmalade, Dirrty (ww, the video was a hit in the US) , Beautiful and ANOM.

:laugh: I'll take her collaboration with Lil kim, Pink, and Mya into consideration. "Beautiful" while good for its time, is already forgotten. The rest of those aren't any more memorable than an O-Towns "Liquid Dreams".

jade.
Sep 13th, 2007, 11:52 AM
Thats not true. Celebrities have always chosen Britney over Christina for the same reason why the majority of non celebrities choose to buy Britneys albums over Christinas. Britney makes better music. :p Christina has no memorable hits even though she is the one with more chart topping hits than Britney. :laugh: Her music isn't that great and even celebrities can see that. I bet Diddy never works with her again.lol
You really have no clue at all what you're talking about.

If Christina's music wasn't great then she wouldn't have musical legends wanting to collab with her. Her music is great you just don't understand the type of artist Christina is, her music evolves with every album - I couldn't say that about Britney because she always makes the same sort of music & that probably is why so many people stick to her because people just know her typical pop music she constantly makes.

When Christina released B2B she got alot more older fans because their appreciated the era she went to for that album. It's just a shame they is too many people out there concerned about the "hot" music instead of real music.

speedyforme
Sep 13th, 2007, 11:57 AM
I agree, it’s so annoying to hear anyone say “oh this song is gonna be HOT…” I mean why are people the spending their lives on making songs for clubs? Write about things that are significant…

Not saying Xtina does so but in general. The HOT 100 is total garbage save 1 song in the top 10...

tiger_rascal
Sep 13th, 2007, 11:59 AM
American Top 40 is crap right now! I can tolerate maybe 2 or 3 songs in the top 40. But finally, here comes Britney with a hot new song!

jade.
Sep 13th, 2007, 12:02 PM
Uh, I think Gimme More sounds just like the songs in the top 40. :nc:

heavenwaits_22
Sep 13th, 2007, 12:05 PM
That's funny considering there are a lot of celebrities on her side.

Fergie
Beyonce
Ashlee Simpson
Ciara
50 cent
Diddy
Chris Brown
Rihanna
Celine Dion
Mariah Carey

I can go on, and on.

jade.
Sep 13th, 2007, 12:06 PM
Did I say there was no celebrities on her side? No, I didn't.

Of course people are on her side, the woman has cracked & people want the old Britney back.

Cubasterd
Sep 13th, 2007, 12:08 PM
You really have no clue at all what you're talking about.

If Christina's music wasn't great then she wouldn't have musical legends wanting to collab with her. Her music is great you just don't understand the type of artist Christina is, her music evolves with every album - I couldn't say that about Britney because she always makes the same sort of music & that probably is why so many people stick to her because people just know her typical pop music she constantly makes.

When Christina released B2B she got alot more older fans because their appreciated the era she went to for that album. It's just a shame they is too many people out there concerned about the "hot" music instead of real music.
Have you listened to B2B? The album is a bunch of modern day songs sampling mainly the 50s & 60s. Pop artist have been doing this since forever. Beyonce does it often.Even on her last album, "Deja Vu" is no different from the style "Ain't no other man" went. Kayne West does it all the time as well too with "Gold Digger". Hell, Justin Timberlake also did it on his first solo album.
The difference is that they didn't go to the extreme of faking their personality and image to be as convincing.

jade.
Sep 13th, 2007, 12:12 PM
Have you listened to B2B? The album is a bunch of modern day songs sampling mainly the 50s & 60s. Pop artist have been doing this since forever. Beyonce does it often.Even on her last album, "Deja Vu" is no different from the style "Ain't no other man" went. Kayne West does it all the time as well too with "Gold Digger". Hell, Justin Timberlake also did it on his first solo album.
The difference is that they didn't go to the extreme of faking their personality and image to be as convincing.
You still don't understand what I was trying to say. :arrow:

heavenwaits_22
Sep 13th, 2007, 12:14 PM
Did I say there was no celebrities on her side? No, I didn't.

Of course people are on her side, the woman has cracked & people want the old Britney back.I wasn't talking about you.

jade.
Sep 13th, 2007, 12:16 PM
I wasn't talking about you.
..well, who did say she didn't have celebrities on her side? :nc:

heavenwaits_22
Sep 13th, 2007, 12:17 PM
..well, who did say she didn't have celebrities on her side? :nc:
Virgo.

kortney1386
Sep 13th, 2007, 12:28 PM
That is true beyonce has always liked britney.

And to say theres too many club songs n people should sings songs that were serious, like christina does, do u realize how Boring music would be? I love christina, and i love stripped, but B2B is not a cd i would ever bump in my car, i can only imagine peoples faces as they drive by and here "Mercy on me" playing from my car.
but u kno wat saying wat eacj artist should do is lame, they do wat they want. i appreciate CA for being differnt and i appreciate brit for her constant club hits!

Cubasterd
Sep 13th, 2007, 12:53 PM
You still don't understand what I was trying to say. :arrow:

You're saying that Chrisitna isn't trying to make "popular" music and is instead making music that she likes to express different sides of herself and blah blah blah.

She has a good voice but her music flatlines. She's a slutty version of Jessica Simpson--minus the newlyweds. The music she makes isn't any different from her peers. The only musical differences is that she actually goes around saying that her music is different, when its clearly not. She is a full on 24/7 gimmick.

jade.
Sep 13th, 2007, 12:57 PM
You're saying that Chrisitna isn't trying to make "popular" music and is instead making music that she likes to express different sides of herself and blah blah blah.

She has a good voice but her music flatlines. She's a slutty version of Jessica Simpson--minus the newlyweds. The music she makes isn't any different from her peers. The only musical differences is that she actually goes around saying that her music is different, when its clearly not. She is a full on 24/7 gimmick.
Come off it, you really think Christina Aguilera sounded like Stripped? You think Stripped sounds like B2B? :nc: Her music is completely differen't with every album she makes, I'm not comparing her to her "peers" unlike you because I'll be wasting my time. Her peers go for the producers who are hitmakers, Christina never did that.

aleronihead
Sep 13th, 2007, 01:04 PM
You're saying that Chrisitna isn't trying to make "popular" music and is instead making music that she likes to express different sides of herself and blah blah blah.

She has a good voice but her music flatlines. She's a slutty version of Jessica Simpson--minus the newlyweds. The music she makes isn't any different from her peers. The only musical differences is that she actually goes around saying that her music is different, when its clearly not. She is a full on 24/7 gimmick.

I Will Be
Mother
A Song for You
Back to Basics Disc 2
:)

jade.
Sep 13th, 2007, 01:06 PM
I couldn't see her peers doing a cover of IAMMW like she did, either. :p

Cubasterd
Sep 13th, 2007, 01:19 PM
Come off it, you really think Christina Aguilera sounded like Stripped? You think Stripped sounds like B2B? :nc: Her music is completely differen't with every album she makes, I'm not comparing her to her "peers" unlike you because I'll be wasting my time. Her peers go for the producers who are hitmakers, Christina never did that.

1st album = fake ( she admits it herself)
2nd album = fake - (stole Pinks image & producers..also worked with many hott producers on this album)
3rd album = fake ( moved on towards the Beyonce route because Beyonce owns. But couldn't get the hit music because she ****ed up with Scott Scorch. Hell, she even dedicated a track on the album dissing him because she wanted that hott producer)

In other words, she wants the hits.. she just can't get them. Then she feeds you a bunch of **** like "I'm taking a risk...". Yea, she took a risk by releasing that album knowing it wasn't complete.

Cubasterd
Sep 13th, 2007, 01:27 PM
I Will Be
Mother
A Song for You
Back to Basics Disc 2
:)
"Oh Mother" could've been a Pink track, and "A song for you" is a remake that wasn't even on her album.:arrow:

Disk 2 is the one with "Hurt" & "Candyman" right? Enough said.

The album is filled with a bunch of filler tracks because she couldn't get Scott Storch to give her those 'hit' songs. Which is probably why they went with a double disk to make up for the quality of the album.

I'm not saying the songs on the album are bad, they just sound like a bunch of fillers. When you look at the fact thats he couldn't get Scott Scortch on the album ,like she planned, its easy to see why the album turned out the way it did.

aleronihead
Sep 13th, 2007, 01:35 PM
"Oh Mother" could've been a Pink track, and "A song for you" is a remake that wasn't even on her album.:arrow:

Disk 2 is the one with "Hurt" & "Candyman" right? Enough said.

The album is filled with a bunch of filler tracks because she couldn't get Scott Storch to give her those 'hit' songs. Which is probably why they went with a double disk to make up for the quality of the album.

I'm not saying the songs on the album are bad, they just sound like a bunch of fillers. When you look at the fact thats he couldn't get Scott Scortch on the album ,like she planned, its easy to see why the album turned out the way it did.

They're both remakes, genius. And don't go saying that a John Lennon song could be a Pink song, please now. :arrow:

And no, neither is on her album. But it's still in her catalog. MY point is that she's not like her peers, she works outside the box.

You don't even know what songs are on B2B obviously, so I'm not going to bother arguing those points. Disc 2 is miles away from most music put out recently by pop acts. Whether or not you like it is up to you.

Cubasterd
Sep 13th, 2007, 01:43 PM
They're both remakes, genius. And don't go saying that a John Lennon song could be a Pink song, please now. :arrow:

And no, neither is on her album. But it's still in her catalog. MY point is that she's not like her peers, she works outside the box.

You don't even know what songs are on B2B obviously, so I'm not going to bother arguing those points. Disc 2 is miles away from most music put out recently by pop acts. Whether or not you like it is up to you.

Whats wrong with saying Pink could remake a John Lennon song? Christina draws more "WTF" moments for singing this song. But I thought you meant "Oh Mother", the song from her album.

And I do know what songs are on B2B. In fact,last I checked, her 2nd disk is sitting on the side door my car scratched up because my sister(who bought her album) doesn't listen to it. They're a bunch of filler songs. "Save Me From Myself", "I got trouble", &"Hurt" are the only songs worth mentioning. My sister liked "Mercy on me" but it sounded desperate to me.

jade.
Sep 13th, 2007, 01:47 PM
ETC & Welcome are awesome songs/fillers whatever you call them but I enjoy listening to them.

aleronihead
Sep 13th, 2007, 01:54 PM
Whats wrong with saying Pink could remake a John Lennon song? Christina draws more "WTF" moments for singing this song. But I thought you meant "Oh Mother", the song from her album.

And I do know what songs are on B2B. In fact,last I checked, her 2nd disk is sitting on the side door my car scratched up because my sister(who bought her album) doesn't listen to it. They're a bunch of filler songs. "Save Me From Myself", "I got trouble", &"Hurt" are the only songs worth mentioning. My sister liked "Mercy on me" but it sounded desperate to me.

See, that's your sister's taste, fine. It sounds to me like you haven't really listened to it. But to me, to my friends, to my family, to my fiance, the 2nd disc is amazing. It's so much better than the 1st, and certainly different from anything out there.

That was your argument, right? That Christina is just like Jessica Simpson and doesn't make music that's any different than the generic music everyone else releases? Because that assessment is just way off base, which is the point I've tried to make.

Save Me From Myself might be my wedding song, it's beautiful and tender and sincere and different for new music. Welcome gives me chills. Candyman makes me wish I could swing dance. Certainly not full of filler to me.

Cubasterd
Sep 13th, 2007, 02:20 PM
See, that's your sister's taste, fine. It sounds to me like you haven't really listened to it. But to me, to my friends, to my family, to my fiance, the 2nd disc is amazing. It's so much better than the 1st, and certainly different from anything out there.

That was your argument, right? That Christina is just like Jessica Simpson and doesn't make music that's any different than the generic music everyone else releases? Because that assessment is just way off base, which is the point I've tried to make.

Save Me From Myself might be my wedding song, it's beautiful and tender and sincere and different for new music. Welcome gives me chills. Candyman makes me wish I could swing dance. Certainly not full of filler to me.

The problem is Christina. Her singing style on most of her songs are the same. Personally, I like the instrumentals to almost every song on her album, but the way she sings most of these songs is not enjoyable and is what makes these songs sound like everything else thats out there. 20,30,40s(whatever) beats mixed with her regular singing voice. The only exception is "I got trouble"( sounds very muffed) and "Save me from myself" which is vocally raw and probably her ****tiest vocals ever on a track.(even though its arguably the best song on the album)

aleronihead
Sep 13th, 2007, 02:30 PM
^You lost me when you said that her vocal style sounds like everything else out there.

Cubasterd
Sep 13th, 2007, 02:35 PM
^You lost me when you said that her vocal style sounds like everything else out there.

Thats too bad, because she does.

Princess Serenity
Sep 13th, 2007, 07:36 PM
PMSL at Stripped being fake :roll: :roll: :roll: Fake crying in I'm OK then?

Cubasterd
Sep 13th, 2007, 07:44 PM
PMSL at Stripped being fake :roll: :roll: :roll: Fake crying in I'm OK then?
She did it last year when she performed "Oh Mother" on television, so I doubt it was harder to do a studio version of tears. :laugh:

tommyboy612
Sep 13th, 2007, 08:21 PM
I think its heelarious to say Christina's music is like everyone elses.

Disk 2 wouldnt exist if she didnt take a risk in making her music...

TRACKS 1,2,3,4,5 ON DISK1 they song like what out there right now? FALSE!

She actually did a good job at mixing the song with a modern twist. Sorry but Christina does take chances and wants to be different. She didnt steal Pinks look she stole her producer and managed to make songs that didnt sound like pinks and her producer prefered Christina because Christina wasnt out to make hits...she was out to make good music.

Oh a better question how was STRIPPED fake? It was the best coming of age album I have ever heard! What was the labum all about? How was that fake? Loving youself, beleiving in yourself?

look it up!

I like yonka and I think she can write good music but shes safe!

Brit...well yea. Her producers make good pop music...she doesnt and will NEVER take a risk making muisc.


I dont know Why I sit and argue this stuff its pointless....