Spoiler About Shows : I Can't Wait

[POSTAL]

Is he really reserving a slot for Patti's trash ?

I can't wait until people start walking out on Patti, or she gets booed and/or heckled.

Sooner or later Bruce is going to pull a major hissy fit on a crowd sometime during this tour and give them a tongue lashing like he did with Terrence Crap Darby.

If he does it at my show, I'll miss it because I'd rather stand in a filthy Arena restroom with piss on the floor, then listen to crap.
I will be out of there faster than lightning.

In fact,
I'd rather listen to a forking political public service announcement before EVERY SONG than listen to that trash.

If this becomes a tour staple I have to say F' BRUCE !

I didn't pay to see/hear that god awful crap. I bought tickets to see Bruce Springtseen & The E Street band perform his songs.
Why do we have to listen to her wail like a cat in heat ?
Just because she's your wife?
F' That.

Why not give Nils a slot for one of his songs, what about Steven?
Clarence ?
You'll do it for her but not for them ?

That's just complete total BULLS**t !!!!!!


If people wanted to hear her music, the CDs would sell, and there would be a demand for a tour. There is none. The only people that want to hear her music is a SMALL percentage OF YOUR FANS. The #1 reason they go to her shows is because they are hoping Bruce will be there. She probably sold under 1,000 copies to people that aren't your fans.


Stop forcing this garbage down our throats !

What's he going to do next, sell Patti Scialfa tour shirts at the concession stands ?

As a whole, most Bruce fans don't want to hear her, and if this becomes a staple sooner or later more of your core audience is going to turn on you.
(The ones that haven't already after Kerry, Dusty Devils, and the Hillbilly Stomp Experiment)



PS - I will now be praying nightly that this was just an experiment, a cruel joke, or he just threw her a bone during the rehearsals.

[Sportsdoc]

Is he really reserving a slot for Patti's trash ?

I can't wait until people start walking out on Patti, or she gets booed and/or heckled.

Sooner or later Bruce is going to pull a major hissy fit on a crowd sometime during this tour and give them a tongue lashing like he did with Terrence Crap Darby.

If he does it at my show, I'll miss it because I'd rather stand in a filthy Arena restroom with piss on the floor, then listen to crap.


You remain your own worst enemy and you managed to kill my message in another thread about free speech. The right to free speech includes everyone having their say but it does not include comments that border on being slanderous -- its no wonder you've been tossed from one chat community to another.

[BronxDarren]

try and listen with an open mind, it was a pretty good song, sort of bluesy. don't be a hata

[tomjoad2]

Can I have your tickets?

[POSTAL]

You remain your own worst enemy and you managed to kill my message in another thread about free speech. The right to free speech includes everyone having their say but it does not include comments that border on being slanderous -- its no wonder you've been tossed from one chat community to another.

Slanderous....

That's funny! :funny:

It's called an opinion.

[tomjoad2]

Should read -It was one song and it is his band

He can do what he wants. In the vain of Free Speech ect. You are free to not buy tickets or go to a show. I am sure others would still go.

[POSTAL]

try and listen with an open mind, it was a pretty good song, sort of bluesy. don't be a hata
A buddy of mine is like you and he says give her a chance.


I have listened to EVERY song on EVERY one of her CDs.......ONCE

That's all I could stand. I will NEVER like her music or her voice. Some of her harmonies do add to the show and fill out songs, but as soon as he spotlights her, whether it be a duet or a short solo intro, The hairs on the back of my neck stand on end.


She ruined Further on Up The Road and Saints on the Seeger Session tour/DVD. Her Into The Fire intro on the Rising tour was hideous. I didn't mind the Reunion tour songs that featured her. They were bearable, maybe because I was just glad to hear Mansion.

But taking a slot from HIS show to spotlight her and perform a song(s) from HER CD is the final straw.

[Sportsdoc]

comments that border on being slanderous -- its no wonder you've been tossed from one chat community to another.

Glad being able to read isn't something you're very good at. The comment I made -- "border on being slanderous" and yes everyone is entitled to an opinion but suggesting you'd rather stand "in human excrement" that listen to something may indeed not be slanderous, but is just plain rude. Then again if you'd rather stand in human excrement all power to you -- sure whoever attends the show(s) with you will have more fun:roll:

[POSTAL]

Should read -It was one song and it is his band

He can do what he wants. In the vain of Free Speech ect. You are free to not buy tickets or go to a show. I am sure others would still go.

You are correct, and in that same vain of Free Speech, I will walk out to the hallway booing as she sings.

[bigjohn]

Well if she does get a slot nightly... I only hope its at the same spot every night so I can beat the crowd for the bathroom/beer break.

[POSTAL]

Glad being able to read isn't something you're very good at. The comment I made -- "border on being slanderous" and yes everyone is entitled to an opinion but suggesting you'd rather stand "in human excrement" that listen to something may indeed not be slanderous, but is just plain rude. Then again if you'd rather stand in human excrement all power to you -- sure whoever attends the show(s) with you will have more fun:roll:

OK then, call me rude.

I can accept that. And my comments and actions may be rude, but I put out money like everyone else to see Bruce Springsteen, not Patti Scialfa. If Patti performs I feel as if I've been deceived and cheated by Bruce and his organization.

Put her on the bill, let ticket buyers know in advance. Let her be the opening act. Then he can try to sell her music all he wants. That way people that don't want to hear her can come in after she is done.

[letterman]

This is why i say - worst fan base in all of entertainment

[bigjohn]

This is why i say - worst fan base in all of entertainment


Because I do not like a song and in my opinion would rather hear another Bruce tune than a Patti tune? This makes me a bad fan? God, I must be missing something

[POSTAL]

Because I do not like a song and in my opinion would rather hear another Bruce tune than a Patti tune? This makes me a bad fan? God, I must be missing something


Don't you know according to many on these boards you are not a fan unless you support EVERYTHING the artist does and says. You are also supposed to proclaim that every release his is best EVER and even his worst is better than anything else. God forbid you criticize or don't like something he's doing.

Oh yeah, and don't forget to drink your Kool Aid !
(or is that Bruce juice?)

[tomjoad2]

This is why i say - worst fan base in all of entertainment

Rob- A true artist gets better at his or her craft when their audience demands more. That is what we do here. Bruce has a high expectation of his shows and even he would say at times things could be better. Does it make you a bad fan. No, it makes you a true fan rather than just some person who likes what they hear and accepts what ever they get.

[POSTAL]

No, it makes you a true fan rather than just some person who likes what they hear and accepts what ever they get.

Sounds like 95% of the members of Trashstreets.com & Greasy Lake.

[BronxDarren]

I haven't heard the new album yet, so I actually thought it might be a new Bruce tune. Again, it sounded pretty good to me on first listen.

On the other hand, I don't see how how anyone can argue that the audience would rather hear a Patti tune than another Bruce song. Why not play what the crowd paid for? Well, maybe (probably) he really DOES like her music a lot and wants to give it a bigger forum. That seems reaosnable, right? In the vein of his pushing Grushecky/Garland Jeffries, etc. And she's his wife, so the incentive is even higher.

On the seventh hand, why not do more housework and make up for it in that way.

[NHFlamingo]

OK then, call me rude.

I can accept that. And my comments and actions may be rude, but I put out money like everyone else to see Bruce Springsteen, not Patti Scialfa. If Patti performs I feel as if I've been deceived and cheated by Bruce and his organization.


Your original post in this thread is rather rude. There are much nicer ways to say what you said.

That being said, now that you know there is the possibility that Patti will perform one of her songs during the shows in this tour it is up to YOU to decide whether YOU wish to go to the shows. It is BRUCE's show and if BRUCE wants to let Patti....or anyone else he so chooses....do a song at HIS show then you should respect his decision and not be so rude about expressing your displeasure about it. If BRUCE's decision to let Patti do a song really makes you that ill then perhaps you need to decide to stay home.

I am not saying that you shouldn't express your displeasure about this issue - I am just saying that the manner in which you expressed it was offensive and that you could have found a more courteous way to express yourself.

[MariaM]

I don't normally agree with Postal, nor do I prefer being so cruel when making a point, but I understand where he's coming from. When you go to AP for a Christmas show, there are special guests, some E Street members and Bruce. You get a mish mosh of music - in the past, Nils, Bon Jovi, Sam Moore, Elvis, Bruce Hornsby and Patti too. But if you are billing a Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band, that is what the fans are paying for. I saw a couple of VFC tours - Patti sang hers there. Different forum. But not for an E Street Band world tour. Not fair to the other established musicians in the band and again, not fair to the fans who aren't paying to see her work. Each four or five minute slot for a song is so precious to fans - the anticipation of what will be played, the excitement of a rarity - to have a Patti Scialfa solo, I think, breaks the rhythm and leaves the fans feeling a bit cheated. I like Patti a lot. I do like some of her music (not enough to go see her, even on the off-chance Bruce is there), and I respect their relationship, their marriage, their roles as parents - all that - but I hear what Postal is saying.

Just my opinion.

[PussInBoots]

Postal I agree with you 100%, Patti has a terrible voice and seems to have gotten worse over the years. Let her take her salary from the Magic tour and finance her own tour so we don't have to hear her songs on the Bruce & the ESB tour.

[kruiserr]

I agree with POSTAL too. At the Vote For Change tour, Bruce had Patti perform about 8 songs as an opening act. That was pure torture. No one booed or threw rotten fruit though. I think they were afraid Bruce would get made and not come out!

[piwi]

Maybe I should change my user name from piwi to Madame Marie

http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=592216

[JAG]

As a whole, most Bruce fans don't want to hear her

You don't want to hear her. I wouldn't mind at all. I doubt you speak for more than yourself and maybe one or 2 of your friends. You certainly have no clue what the majority of bruce fans think.

[BrlDsguise]

Maybe I should change my user name from piwi to Madame Marie

http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=592216

Although I would have no objection to it - my guess is this song goes the way of Clarence's bagpipes once the tour proper opens.

Wayne

[Drew]

If he does it at my show, I'll miss it because I'd rather stand in a filthy Arena restroom with piss on the floor, then listen to crap.

I don't believe you. And you don't believe that either.

There was nothing wrong with the song they did together. Perfectly good.

[Faithful Man]

...PS - I will now be praying nightly that this was just an experiment, a cruel joke, or he just threw her a bone during the rehearsals.

Just a thought, but there are far more important things that I could think of praying nightly for than whether Bruce gives Patti one song slot during each show.

Besides, you know that he will feature her in one song (see Mansion on the Hill during the Reunion Tour).

If you have tickets to the Sunday show in DC and decide not to go, please let me know. I'm looking for one ticket and am willing to persevere through the Patti song!

[BronxDarren]

You don't want to hear her. I wouldn't mind at all. I doubt you speak for more than yourself and maybe one or 2 of your friends. You certainly have no clue what the majority of bruce fans think.

JAG let me know if you want those hartford tix for face.

[POSTAL]

You don't want to hear her. I wouldn't mind at all. I doubt you speak for more than yourself and maybe one or 2 of your friends. You certainly have no clue what the majority of bruce fans think.

Ummm,
after years of reading these boards I'd say a good 60-75% are on my side of the road about the wailing cat.

[jacksondog]

I think it's unfair to say that her voice has gotten worse over the years. I can remember when I first heard her orgasm her way thorugh the opening bars of Cover Me back on the 2nd leg of the BITUSA tour. God knows how many busted ear drums, broken windows, upset cats, dogs and coyote's there must have been because of her. While love is usually blind, I had no idea that it was also DEAF. Sorry Bruce, but please give us a freaking break. If her album sales don't say it all, nothing will. With that said, I think there's nothing wrong with any form of nepotism or helping family when you can. Just please not on my dime. I said it once, I'lll say it again-- her voice is the equivalent of wounded seals wailing for help on their death beds.

[POSTAL]

I don't believe you. And you don't believe that either.

There was nothing wrong with the song they did together. Perfectly good.

Try me.

When I went to the Dusty Devils Show in Trenton I walked out when he brought her on stage to sing. I returned when she was gone.

I've been to about 100 + shows and I have only ever left unless I absolutely positively had to. I don't do beer runs, bathroom runs, or anything. Once I'm in my seat, I'm there for the duration.

That is the only time I ever walked out when I didn't have to, and I'll do it again.

[BruceNut]

You know.I think that her song really wasn't that bad. I would certainly like hearing that song or anything else she wanted to play off her new CD over Mansion on the Hill.The reason you ask? Because its new music ! Thats why.
Look.She`s Bruces wife. So if he wants her there,who are we to complain? If he`s happy,the performance and the chi onstage will be that much better. And we benefit from that.The way she kicked that fan over last night,I wouldnt go pissing her off. ;) Plus I'm biased here. :music:

[Splooge]

Some of you like to be on both sides of the fence when it comes to voicing opinions. Slanderous.....no, strong opinion.....yes. Why not just take from this post that he hates when Patti gets the spotlight and move on rather than make this an issue. I can't stand Patti either and prefer for her to stand in the back and add some back up vocals when necessary. I just don't agree w/ Bruce's need to have her highlighted like this.....very annoying. I'll choose this as my bathroom/beer break song for this upcoming tour and leave it at that. Just ask yourself the simple question ....would she ever have a career in music outside of background vocals if it wasnt for Bruce. Please don't cruxify me for my opinion

[BronxDarren]

YThe way she kicked that fan over last night,I wouldnt go pissing her off. ;) Plus I'm biased here. :music:

hey Mick what was the deal with that, could you see? that was funny. either she was acting like a diva (get over it) or it was just annoying her and she wanted it out of the way.

Speaking of which, sorry that cop hassled me, i wanted to say hi and thanks again for the help with the file conversions.

btw, am i the new Tim Gunn here , or could the entire ESB use some fashion advice? Very blah.. Such subdued blacks and greys, where are the all the colors of yesteryear. Don't make me break out my fashion advice too.

[POSTAL]

Going back to one of my original points of the initial post, which no one seemed to have an opinion on....

Does anyone else think it could get ugly as/or like the Terrence Trent Darby incident ?

[BronxDarren]

Going back to one of my original points of the initial post, which no one seemed to have an opinion on....

Does anyone else think it could get ugly as/or like the Terrence Trent Darby incident ?

No freakin way.

I like TTD and have seen him solo, but to have him perform a gospel tinged solo in the middle of a rock show was, to quote John Wayne, "re-godamn-diculous."

POSTAL, most of the audience is a little more tolerant than you, as you admit. Let's grab a beer some day.

[J.R.K.Buster]

So if he wants her there,who are we to complain? If he`s happy,the performance and the chi onstage will be that much better. And we benefit from that.The way she kicked that fan over last night,I wouldnt go pissing her off. ;) Plus I'm biased here. :music:


Is this coming from the same long-term-fan who has dissed the past 3 releases from Bruce Springsteen? John Henry, my brother, Where art thou?

The 3 year complainer is telling someone not to complain.

Which leads me to this question....Since you pointed it out first. So, if he wants to do a compilation of Pete Seeger songs, who are you to complain? Maybe it made him happy...Not you, but him. Same principle.

[BruceNut]

hey Mick what was the deal with that, could you see? that was funny. either she was acting like a diva (get over it) or it was just annoying her and she wanted it out of the way.

Speaking of which, sorry that cop hassled me, i wanted to say hi and thanks again for the help with the file conversions.

btw, am i the new Tim Gunn here , or could the entire ESB use some fashion advice? Very blah.. Such subdued blacks and greys, where are the all the colors of yesteryear. Don't make me break out my fashion advice too.

I saw it all.It was right in front of me. The fan must have been set to high or she just didnt need it. So she just gave it the boot :) I wish she had just turned it around so it blew on Lori,Wes,Donna and me :) :D
When I saw DA waving her arms and heard her say da Bronx,I was thinking why does she want a drive to the bronx :roll:
I'm sorry we werent able to talk more.But that will be fixed soon enough.Right?
Should we be scared that your offering fashion ideas to the band?? :devil:

[BronxDarren]

But that will be fixed soon enough.Right?
Should we be scared that your offering fashion ideas to the band?? :devil:

Yes, that will be fixed at one of the upcoming shows for sure!

And considering i was was wearing ripped up oversize khaki shorts, bright silver sneakers and went shirtless for most of the show, it is bad news indeed that I'm offering fashion advice to the band! But plenty of hitting coaches don't know how to hit, ya know?

[BruceNut]

Is this coming from the same long-term-fan who has dissed the past 3 releases from Bruce Springsteen? John Henry, my brother, Where art thou?

The 3 year complainer is telling someone not to complain.

Which leads me to this question....Since you pointed it out first. So, if he wants to do a compilation of Pete Seeger songs, who are you to complain? Maybe it made him happy...Not you, but him. Same principle.

I hear you.And you are right.I just think its easier for me to call him onto the carpet for the past 2 releases then to bitch about this release.Because this release involves the full cast of our loveable characters. People that have all entered our lives through their musical gifts.For 3 years I`ve begged for whats about to happen.Now that its finally here and Ive heard some of it live,I CANT WAIT FOR MORE! Wherever the road takes them with this new music is what I`m looking to forward too.

ps....thank to everyone who has put up with me for the last 3 years.It couldnt have been easy. And to those of you that put me on ignore because of my constant complaining,you wont see this.So kiss my tush :p

[scootbigman]

If this does happen I would like to offer a piece of advice to dog owners. Be very careful when playing the boot, expect at least two piles of poop, a broken gate, and a half mile chase.

[BruceNut]

Does anyone else think it could get ugly as/or like the Terrence Trent Darby incident ?

OK.I`ll take a stab at this. My short answer is no.
When the TTD incident occured,there was a huge expectation that C was coming out. When the crowd saw it wasnt C,they booed loudly.I am embarrassed to say I booed too. The crowd finally calmed down and became extremely respectful. But with Patti.We know shes there. Its her spot.Shes no guest. So to me its a unfair analogy.

[Drew]

Try me.
That is the only time I ever walked out when I didn't have to, and I'll do it again.

Walking out and being willing, welcoming even, of standing in pee on the floor of a bathroom are two completely different things. The usual hyperbole.

[Drew]

Try me.
I've been to about 100 + shows and I have only ever left unless I absolutely positively had to. I don't do beer runs, bathroom runs, or anything. Once I'm in my seat, I'm there for the duration.

Trying to make sense of that first sentence, but you've piqued my curiosity now. You say you have left your seat when you 'absolutely positively had to' but not for 'beer runs, bathroom runs, or anything.' So, what was it that made you 'absolutely positively' have to? An irresistable urge to stand in an inch of piss on a bathroom floor? Or what?

[CRACKMYTHUNDER]

I agree with Postal and P and Boots. I am also adamently opposed to Bruce Nuts post and Piwi's post about her lack of GA tickets. She said that oh my g-d i once sat in the seats and how can i ever do that again! If that is the way she feels she should never go to a Bruce show again. It means she likes the thrill of being up close, not his music. Shame on Piwi. And as always, Shame on the hypocrite BruceNut

[Wildbilly_01]

Can I have your tickets?

I'm second on this list.
Why would you even go to a show?

[TorontoJeff]

Opinions...

I have a few (and I'm new)...

Anyone who acts like they know what an artist needs to do better than the artist...should try making art themself.

Anyone who bases his concept of "the majority" of Mr Springsteen's audience on "60%" of the users of this board is delusional.

Anyone who thinks Ms. Scialfa "can't sing" is either an idiot or has no understanding of singing and should probably find a different line of criticism. (You can certainly question her taste when it comes to note choice and tone...but she IS making choices and IS in control of her instrument)


These are of course, just opinions.

Jef

[POSTAL]

Walking out and being willing, welcoming even, of standing in pee on the floor of a bathroom are two completely different things. The usual hyperbole.

Well,
c'mon Drew, it is Philly. And as much as I stick up for Philly sports fans, you know there is usually urine on the floor of the men's bathroom. :wink:

I didn't mean I am going to seek out some urine to stand in, it's just there, I think it's a rule in Philly.
(That is why I usually avoid restrooms in public places)

[POSTAL]

So, what was it that made you 'absolutely positively' have to?

If I got to the point that I had to go to the bathroom and couldn't hold it anymore. It usually doesn't happen because I'm not a big alcohol drinker and I usually empty my bladder and get anything I might need(food/drink) before the show starts.

[BrlDsguise]

No freakin way.

I like TTD and have seen him solo, but to have him perform a gospel tinged solo in the middle of a rock show was, to quote John Wayne, "re-godamn-diculous."


No different than Bruce for playing "Many Rivers to Cross" that night or "Satan's Jewel Crown" two nights earlier. I didn't hear anyone booing those.

Wayne

[POSTAL]

No different than Bruce for playing "Many Rivers to Cross" that night or "Satan's Jewel Crown" two nights earlier. I didn't hear anyone booing those.

Wayne


Yeah, but 99% of the people were there to see Bruce. He could sing the yellow pages and they'd cheer.:laugh: