Lance on 20/20

[Katlin]

Anyone else see?

I love Lance, but I gotta say, I thought he came across as very whiney and bitter about everything in his life lol.

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

I didn't know they still owed Jive two albums.

And I think Lance has a right to be bitter to a certain extent (they all do) IF what he said is true about Justin stringing them along to believe that he would record again. That's just not cool.

And I really want to win the lottery so I can go see Hairspray before he leaves

[Katlin]

He bitched about Justin. And *NSYNC. And the media. And the management. And teenage girls. And his parents. And the Bible. And the paparazzi.

Come on. Your life is not that tragic.

[SparkleHugs]

I haven't seen it yet, but i am SO TIRED of all of the criticism of Justin simply because they broke up. I really think it was just the natural evolution of them all as men in their careers to not be apart of a boyband. I dont hear any criticism of Michael Jacskon for going solo after the Jackson 5. Plus the whole boyband thing had really gone to the wayside by 2002. I knew they owed Jive 2 ablbums, I think the greatest hits counts...I'm not sure though. I knew they had a 5 album contract with Jive. I figure when the Pop phase comes back in, and everyone gets over themselves (and i mean everyone, not implicitly refering to Justin) maybe they can get back together and throw out a couple more albums. I suggest a Christmas one because its easy, it would be fun and make it a tv special. that would be awesome. lol

but yes, I suggest Lance get some therapy and get over these issues. Maybe 2020 and the like is celebrities version of therapy? lol

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

On a completely unrelated note to the who break-up thing, it made me sad when the interviewer read that line from Lance's book..."I knew it was wrong...that's what I'd been taught by my church, my family, my whole world."

I can't imagine what he, or anyone who is gay and was raised being taught that it was wrong goes through.

[SparkleHugs]

I watched. I can see why he felt that way at the time, but i believe its something he should be passed now. But I guess now he learned to not turn opportunities down when he is presented with them. For that I have to say he is an idiot because you have to work for yourself and do what is most beneficial to you. If he lost out on opportunities because he said no, that is his fault.

i know the show is super edited so i am curious to see what his entire story is. I might go to barnes and noble and sit down and read the book (and set it down before leaving cause im poor) just to see what else he said about Justin.

[SparkleHugs]

On a completely unrelated note to the who break-up thing, it made me sad when the interviewer read that line from Lance's book..."I knew it was wrong...that's what I'd been taught by my church, my family, my whole world."

I can't imagine what he, or anyone who is gay and was raised being taught that it was wrong goes through.


most everyone was taught that. its only recently that anyone has been taught differently.

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

Oh believe me, I know that. I just can't imagine how hard it must be to know and be afraid to say anything.

[SparkleHugs]

I just came across this list of reasons being gay is unAmerican.

http://wwjv4.com/politics/top-10-reasons-gay-marriage-is-unamerican-47

[MJ12sGal4eva]

does anyone has anymore dates that lance will be on tv ?

[HipHopChristian]

I watched the interview on YouTube...

I really wanna read his book now. I wonder how Justin feels about Lance outting him. He does seem a little bitter about things, but I think he's trying to play it up for the book. It also made me kinda sad when he said that he knew from age 5 he had to act different. I never thought of the whole "Gone" thing like that... with it leading to Justin's solo career and all. That's intresting. I'm not sure if it's exhasuration (sp?? lol) or not. When that song first came out, I was always ify if it was self centered of Justin to just be on that track by himself. Then when it was a single with a video... I was like eeh..

I dunno.

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

I never thought of the whole Gone thing either Hollis but I kinda see it now.

I can't wait to get my hands on the book. Hopefully I can convince my Dad to make the 45 minute drive to the bookstore sometime soon.

It's getting some decent reviews on Aamzon.com

[SparkleHugs]

I dont know how either of you missed the whole Gone thing because everyone who wasnt a hardcore Justin fan bitched about it endlessly.

Lanie, why dont you have dad order it on amazon, they mail pretty quickly these days.

He was on GMA this morning and said he wanted to emphasize that these words are being used because its what he felt at the time, meaning he didnt necessarily feel that way now. I hope thats the case because if he honestly is bitter about lost opportunities...its really his own fault.

[SparkleHugs]

Oh yeah, he will be on the view tomorrow also.

[Katlin]

it's exhasuration (sp?? lol)

exaggeration? lol.

And maybe someone can explain to me about his statement that he knew at age 5. While I totally believe that perhaps people are born gay, how do you KNOW at age 5 you are gay? It's not like I was in kindergarten walking around knowing I liked dudes. You know what I mean? Kids don't even think about that stuff till later, so how do you know that young?

[Sunfire]

Well since I'm not gay I don't know, but I have some friends who are gay and they knew they were from very early on as well. I'm not sure why or how, but they did.

[Katlin]

yeah i'm not doubting that at all, i know it happens, i just wanted to understand.

[SparkleHugs]

I ask pretty much ask every gay man I meet (I say man because i dont know too many lesbians, just my friends mom and i really think her's was a choice more than anything) But I would say nearly all of them have repsonded with they knew they were different that young but couldnt exactly pin point what exactly is different from themselves and the other kids. But as they grow older and see the other boys interested in the girls, they find themselves interested in the boys.

Plus i knew a straight guy that said when he was in kidergarden he really liked girls, he wanted to be alone with them...he had no idea why or what he would do with them...but wanted to be with them. lol I think its the same with gay boys.

Lance was on the view today, he said that he currently has no qualms with Justin and they are still good friends and talk to eachother. He also said it wasnt specifically Justin, but everything involved. If this interview ends up on Youtube (as it should) you should watch it. he really redeems himself from the whiney bitch image that he had on 20/20.

[Katlin]

Good, I am glad he is not whiney. LOL

You know what I mean though? I know it happens all the time. I just don't get how at an age when you are not sexually interested you can tell your sexual preference.

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

I read a excerpt from his book on abcnews.com. At one point he talks about having "innocent crushes" on boys. I'm not sure if that was when he was that young or a bit older, but that's what he called it.

[SparkleHugs]

I think even before we are sexually interested we are still attracted to people at a young age. I knew I liked boys very young. I had my first, and only to date...lol boyfriend in Kindergarden. I imagine the gays know the same way.

I am curious to read his book, but I have no desire to spend the money on it. Im cheap.

[pinky]

Both PJ and PinkBoy had crushes in kindergarten, so I think that attractions can happen that early, even though they're not genuinely sexual in nature. Plus, lance could have seen shows on television in which men and women were always together, and couldn't envision himself ever being in that kind of relationship. Most likely, he didn't have the vocabulary to voice those feelings at the time, but I can certainly see how he would have felt different from the rest of the kids that early.

As for his frustration with Justin, maybe somebody should remind him that when the group first went on hiatus, it was so that he could become an astronaut. :rolleyes:

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

I think even before we are sexually interested we are still attracted to people at a young age. I knew I liked boys very young. I had my first, and only to date...lol boyfriend in Kindergarden. I imagine the gays know the same way.

I am curious to read his book, but I have no desire to spend the money on it. Im cheap.

Yeah I had my first and only boyfriend up to this point in first grade.

[SparkleHugs]

As for his frustration with Justin, maybe somebody should remind him that when the group first went on hiatus, it was so that he could become an astronaut. :rolleyes:

HA! good point, i forgot that was the reason.

[pinky]

That's because your blowup doll didn't go to Russia. :hah:

I remembered, because I missed him. :nod:

[Sunfire]

Is it weird that I remember being in middle school and not sure if I liked boys or girls? Like, seriously... but I like boys. :D But I do have innocent girl crushes!

I'm watching Lance on the Tyra Banks show (she is so weird). It's interesting.

[SparkleHugs]

No, I dont think that is weird at all. I think sometimes it can be ambiguous for some people and for others its clear cut no questions about it. I am glad for Troy that you like boys...lolbut if you didn't we would still like you the same amount...

which isnt much :p

oh and Pinks?

bite me :p

[pinky]

:tongue: You can't deny the logic.

[HipHopChristian]

I hope these interviews wind up on YouTube...

I secretly love Tyra Banks show :o She does act kinda... weird, but I like it :)

A for the "different at age 5" thing... I can KIND understand what he means. Like, you might not know you are gay and like guys, but you would know you are different then the rest of the boys at age 5. I always thought when I was 5 that I was different from the rest of the boys as well. You just are, it's hard to explain. At a young age you don't know if it's right or not to be different...

Like she said, they know they are different but they couldn't pinpoint it. I can't say whether or not he actually knew he was gay though.

[SparkleHugs]

secretly?? please. we both know it is no in noway a secret.

and I hope you know you just totally made yourself sound gay :o:p

[Sunfire]

Yeah dude, yay for Troy! Girls are pretty and stuff, but I don't do va-jay-jay's. Sorry.

Tyraaaaaaaa. I used to kinda like her... but she just really gets on my nerves now. I think because it's all about her. Everything revolves around Tyra. You can only take that chit for so long.

[SparkleHugs]

For real!! Tyra should really get the clue that the world really revolves around ME.

psh. effin Tyra.

[HipHopChristian]

dude i KNOW... she always promotes herself on her show, and bosts herself about something SHES done. And all those ANTM updates show... okay seriously.

I don't watch her show all the time, I swear lol.

And I know I made myself sound gay, but it was soooo true. I understand what he means. I like girls though. Girls is where it's at :D

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

I watched Tyra on YouTube today. She drove me crazy but the interview was good.

[SparkleHugs]

I think tyra is fun. she's crazy, but I like her.

I like that she is a real woman size too.

[princessKAT]

and I hope you know you just totally made yourself sound gay :o:p

heh I can definitely attest that he is not :nod: :kiss:

[SparkleHugs]

Can I just remind you of Sir Elton John who has a son from his ex wife :o

Not that I doubt Ho in anyway, just sayin...lol

[pinky]

I know a man who was married for over 25 years and had 3 kids, and he left his family for his boyfriend a few years ago.

No saying anything about Ho, just saying.........

[HipHopChristian]

I know, I think stuff like that is sad :( Not even because of the gay thing, but because they leave their families for a different lifestyle... and I'm sure the gay thing isn't easy for the wife, so that just tops the cake.

This thread got turned around real quick.. in a weird way :o But maybe not so much...

[SparkleHugs]

Just because a person divorces his wife, and leaves the house doesn't mean he has necessarily left or abandoned his family. Just having sex with different people. lol

I feel sorry for them because they denied who they were for most of their lives. Plus, as much as I love the gays, I would pretty much be pissed if my husband was gay and left me. Effin tell me so I don't waste my life.

[pinky]

His kids were really mad at him for leaving (or for lying, I'm not sure which). I felt bad for him, because he tried, REALLY tried, to live the life that was expected of him. And I think his kids were so angry that they couldn't understand that he was still the same father who had raised them and loved them their entire lives. In fact, he had pretty much denied his own life in order to be their father.

Sad all around. :(

Having said all that, can I just admit here and now that my very favorite shirt at the Rutgers-West Virginia football game yesterday, the one that literally had me doubled over laughing, said "Brokeback Mountaineers" on it? So politically incorrect, so against my beliefs about gay rights, and yet so totally hilarious!

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

Having said all that, can I just admit here and now that my very favorite shirt at the Rutgers-West Virginia football game yesterday, the one that literally had me doubled over laughing, said "Brokeback Mountaineers" on it? So politically incorrect, so against my beliefs about gay rights, and yet so totally hilarious!

:roll: :roll:

I watched part of that game, too bad they didn't zoom in on that on TV;)

I like the Rutgers mascot by the way, nice costume:)

[pinky]

It was actually scary at one point. Because we get tickets through PinkBoy, who's in the band, we sit in the general admission area with all the crazy students. Most of the time it's a lot of fun, and the kids are okay. But yesterday, two guys in West Virginia shirts and hoodies came into our section, and sat (stood, actually, like everyone else ;) ) right next to us. People were throwing things at them, and I was waiting to get hit. They were pretty good-natured about all the comments, though. Since it was raining for the entire first half, I was tempted to mention to them that, here in New Jersey, we call it rain, not bath time. But I figured Mr. Pink would have been embarrassed, so I didn't. I also refrained from asking them about their brother....you know, cousin Jim Bob! :roll:

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

It was actually scary at one point. Because we get tickets through PinkBoy, who's in the band, we sit in the general admission area with all the crazy students. Most of the time it's a lot of fun, and the kids are okay. But yesterday, two guys in West Virginia shirts and hoodies came into our section, and sat (stood, actually, like everyone else ;) ) right next to us. People were throwing things at them, and I was waiting to get hit. They were pretty good-natured about all the comments, though. Since it was raining for the entire first half, I was tempted to mention to them that, here in New Jersey, we call it rain, not bath time. But I figured Mr. Pink would have been embarrassed, so I didn't. I also refrained from asking them about their brother....you know, cousin Jim Bob! :roll:

LMAO!

We're kind of WVU fans in this house. My brother visited the campus last summer and I fell in love with the place. The campus is beautiful!

Speaking of football fun, my brother called yesterday to tell us of the happenings at the game. Apparently Michigan has a tradition that whenever they score someone gets lifted up in the air one time for as many points on the scoreboard. My brother volunteered to be the lucky student so he got lifted up in the air 13 times.

It sounds like so much fun (I would've been dizzy as all get out) but LanieMom was cringing because his leg and foot are still healing.

Ahh, gotta love college football.

[Canadian Idiot09]

yeah i don't get that either,I always belive u just think one day ur "gay" or something..

[pinky]

Speaking of football fun, my brother called yesterday to tell us of the happenings at the game. Apparently Michigan has a tradition that whenever they score someone gets lifted up in the air one time for as many points on the scoreboard. My brother volunteered to be the lucky student so he got lifted up in the air 13 times. They do that at Rutgers, too. Generally, there are about 30-40 different people being lifted after every score, all around the general admission sections.

It looked pretty tiring at the Norfolk State game. I think Rutgers won that one by something like 52-0. :blueeek:

Last year, the band would lift one of the girls in PinkBoy's section. The director told them they couldn't do that any more. He's not too much fun.

[SparkleHugs]

and another nsync thread turns into a football thread....

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

That can easily be changed, Sparks.

So I've watched pretty much all of Lance's appearances over the past week and I gotta say he seems to become much more well-spoken each time I see him

[SparkleHugs]

I saw a clip from Tyra and he was really cute with Topanga. He was such a nice boyfriend for being completely not into it. lol

I just hope he isn't going to keep being the type of gay boy who only cares and talks about gay issues. I have noticed he has fallen into that trap over the last year, and hopefully once the hooplah of the book fades, he will focus on other important issues.

anyone know anything about his pilot with Joey? I am really curious if it will be picked up. lets hope that his acting skills have improved, and by improved i mean gained any at all. lol

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

I saw a clip from Tyra and he was really cute with Topanga. He was such a nice boyfriend for being completely not into it. lol

I just hope he isn't going to keep being the type of gay boy who only cares and talks about gay issues. I have noticed he has fallen into that trap over the last year, and hopefully once the hooplah of the book fades, he will focus on other important issues.

anyone know anything about his pilot with Joey? I am really curious if it will be picked up. lets hope that his acting skills have improved, and by improved i mean gained any at all. lol

I loved her "Lance Box". That was so cute!

[princessKAT]

heh bringing it back to football....who's ready for the Colts/Patriots game next Sunday?????? :D :D

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

heh bringing it back to football....who's ready for the Colts/Patriots game next Sunday?????? :D :D

Me!

Seeing the Patriots lose will be so sweet:D

[princessKAT]

Me!

Seeing the Patriots lose will be so sweet:D

yes yes it will....but it's gonna be a BATTLE...I have a feeling they're still pissed due to the upset in last year's game to head to the superbowl...man oh man

I can't wait though

[HipHopChristian]

Lance and Topanga and I missed it? :(

Luckly I have a tv now so I can see this stuff...

oh, and Amanda... regarding football, I have to live with her soon so looks like a lot of things will go from pop to sports... lol

[lost_n_justin's_smile]

It's on YouTube Hollis, lemme see if I can find the links

[Katlin]

I thought she came off as kinda creepy/stalker lol

[Sunfire]

I thought she came off as one of us. :laugh: Not one of us NOW, but one of us when we were like 14 or however old we were. Aaaand that did freak me out a bit.

[SparkleHugs]

ooo Nicki post again, your post number has the mark of the devil in it! boo!

I thought she came across as one of us, the way we were back when the board was boomin and we all went to all the concerts and all did everything nsync and it more or less consumed our conversations with certain people. I have a drawer full of my nsync crap, I think she was like that but actually got to kiss him at the end of the day...lol I am sure she is normal now, and doesn't play with whatever is in her lance box daily. A lot of people have keepsakes from their first love, granted I believe most are thrown away once another love has come around, but I don't think she was any more weird than we were at some point.

and her hair looked great. lol

[Katlin]

What makes you think when I say she came across creepy/stalker that I didn't also mean she came across as one of us. One in the same. :tongue:

[SparkleHugs]

touche :laugh:

[pinky]

ooo Nicki post again, your post number has the mark of the devil in it! boo!
Good reason for that! :nod: