Brit took after Madonna...

[DirrtyPopMuzik]

When it comes down to being in the headlines and having people talk about her. I just realized how her and Christina both saw what she did with her career and did both did the oppisite. One did it with art and the other with tabloid contraversy.

Its interesting to really study their careers.

[christina's-girl]

LOL. Headline News was talking about how she copied Madonna by using religion for controversy with her new pics with the Catholic thing. I think they forgot her very first video was in a Catholic school which was even more funny considering she's not... At least Madge had a purpose for doing it.

[Lucky_19]

How is Christina like Madonna?

[speedyforme]

^ the slightest controversy through her videos (Dirrty/Beautiful), being very outspoken very early on her career and changing her image and sound with her albums

[Cubasterd]

How is Christina like Madonna?
Aside from vocals, how is she not? She dresses like Madonna, she acts like Madonna, she switches up her accents like Madonna, she talks about the , now, trite issues that Madonna wore out in the 90s, she tries to make her music touch on the same issues as Madonna did.

The real question is, how is Britney like Madonna?

Britneys not getting controversy from that catholic pic in her album booklet. Noone really cares about that crap anymore cause Madonna already wore it out and artists have been doing that since then.
Hell, even Christina did it... another reason why she is like Madonna.

Britney is getting controversy for living her life; which is/was hardly anything like Madonnas.

[christina's-girl]

Britney is getting controversy for living her life

in front of the cameras on purpose.

Anyway, I don't remember Christina doing the religious thing. I do remember Fox News and Headline news talking about the pictures - that's the only reason I knew about them.

[Cubasterd]

in front of the cameras on purpose.

Anyway, I don't remember Christina doing the religious thing. I do remember Fox News and Headline news talking about the pictures - that's the only reason I knew about them.

Think what you want.lol

I don't follow Baby Jatima that much but the fans that do are saying that she has taken those kinda 'religious' pictures before.
Its really not a stretch to think about her doing something like this --and it going under the radar.
The religious picture isn't breaking any headlines that I've noticed and its definitely not a hot topic, especially coming from someone like Britney.

[christina's-girl]

Think what you want.lol

I don't follow Baby Jatima that much but the fans that do are saying that she has taken those kinda 'religious' pictures before.
Its really not a stretch to think about her doing something like this --and it going under the radar.
The religious picture isn't breaking any headlines that I've noticed and its definitely not a hot topic, especially coming from someone like Britney.


I know what I see... and that's her in front of a camera everyday because CA must be the only cool place on earth with nice weather...

Anyway, I don't follow anyone that closely, but I never saw pics with the religious theme thing from Christina. Someone needs to show them to me. The pictures from Brit were mentioned yesterday, but they weren't breaking headlines. I, personally, don't see anything that Brit does as breaking headlines, but evidently it does, so I start to assume that if it's on the news someone's making a big deal about it.

[jimmyboy]

LMAO @ Christina being like Madonna but not Britney :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[tommyboy612]

in front of the cameras on purpose.

Anyway, I don't remember Christina doing the religious thing. I do remember Fox News and Headline news talking about the pictures - that's the only reason I knew about them.


I know Chris dressed as a NUN b4 she performed DIRRTY when she hosted the EMA. I dont hink you guys remember how Madonna did crazy stuff and her personal life was looked down apon with er sleeping around and such. When Chris did B2B the comparison was odvious with her O MOTHER/O FATHER and HANKY PANKY/CANDYMAN the rest arent similar. And dressing like Marilyn but who hasnt at this point.

[tommyboy612]

^ the slightest controversy through her videos (Dirrty/Beautiful), being very outspoken very early on her career and changing her image and sound with her albums


Dont forget being in complete control of her music.

[DirrtyPopMuzik]

in front of the cameras on purpose.

Anyway, I don't remember Christina doing the religious thing. I do remember Fox News and Headline news talking about the pictures - that's the only reason I knew about them.


I dont think Chris took pix that way...We were talking about how they look REALLY similar to some of the pix in the B2B booklet.

[tiger_rascal]

I think Britney is more like Madonna.

1. Performer, not vocalist.
2. Makes fun, pop music.
3. Gets a lot of attention, even while doing nothing.
4. Critics cut her life down, but usually praises her music, even though they hate admitting the music is surprisingly good.
5. Great dancer.
6. Shock value.
7. Im sure theres more.

It seems to me Christina tries, and it shows, she tries too hard. Madonna and Britney just are.

[MissA]

They both took different things from their Idol.

Britney... the Performances/Spotlight Side

Christina... the Business Woman Side

[ghettoguy]

Madonna and Christina share smarts. Neither would NEVER let their career fall to shambles or lose their kids.

[blackout.]

Madonna and Christina share smarts. Neither would NEVER let their career fall to shambles or lose their kids.
True, true.

[speedyforme]

Madonna and Christina have more than 1 #1 hot 100 song...

[aleronihead]

Christina and Britney both learned from Madonna. How could they not? As a kid in the 80s, Madonna was everywhere. Every controversy became a huge deal, especially to a kid who loves pop music. They were both raised during the peak of Madonna's career. How could it NOT influence them?

As a woman the same age as them, it's impossible to think of a worl pre-Madonna, she altered the landscape of sexuality, pop culture, performance, power, and marketing. If you are entering a career in pop or performance, you are going to take some elements of Madonna's influence, whether you intend to or not.

Of COURSE they're both influenced by her, the videos and concerts, the changing images, the performance styles. Anyone who wants to argue that they aren't is blind.

[aleronihead]

The real question is, how is Britney like Madonna?

Britneys not getting controversy from that catholic pic in her album booklet. Noone really cares about that crap anymore cause Madonna already wore it out and artists have been doing that since then.
Hell, even Christina did it... another reason why she is like Madonna.

Britney is getting controversy for living her life; which is/was hardly anything like Madonnas.

From the beginning, controversy and sexuality has been a HUGE part of Britney's marketing and image. Plus she's adopted elements of Madonna's performing style; as neither of them is the strongest singer, they rely on putting on a great show.

How is Britney not like Madonna in this way?

[Cubasterd]

From the beginning, controversy and sexuality has been a HUGE part of Britney's marketing and image. Plus she's adopted elements of Madonna's performing style; as neither of them is the strongest singer, they rely on putting on a great show.

How is Britney not like Madonna in this way?
Because Madonna is not the only dominant female who did that during her time. Britneys music and performing styles point stronger similarities towards Janet Jackson.
Aside from kissing Madonna herself, Britney has done little to follow Madonna in the "marketing image" aspect. And thats also why the 'kiss' was such a big deal between those two. Even though the world compared Britney to Madonna, mainly because of their popularity, when Britney kissed Madonna it was the most controversial thing Britney had ever done on stage. For Madonna, it was a walk in the park.

Britney was Janet Jackson with a voice.lol
Now, Britney is Britney Spears.

[MO-Xtina]

Britney's only similarity to Madonna is the controversy generated through their personal lives, which some would argue have guided both of their careers. That's where the comparisons end though. Britney's always been a Paula Abdul ripoff. Their stage show, choreography, mindless songs, etc.. are pretty similar.

Christina's similarities are re-invention and actually knowing how to keep her career a priority without letting the fame.media take advantage of her. Britney should take notes.

[jimmyboy]

Because Madonna is not the only dominant female who did that during her time. Britneys music and performing styles point stronger similarities towards Janet Jackson.
Aside from kissing Madonna herself, Britney has done little to follow Madonna in the "marketing image" aspect. And thats also why the 'kiss' was such a big deal between those two. Even though the world compared Britney to Madonna, mainly because of their popularity, when Britney kissed Madonna it was the most controversial thing Britney had ever done on stage. For Madonna, it was a walk in the park.

Britney was Janet Jackson with a voice.lol
Now, Britney is Britney Spears.
Lol, I love your carcasm :)

[aleronihead]

Because Madonna is not the only dominant female who did that during her time. Britneys music and performing styles point stronger similarities towards Janet Jackson.
Aside from kissing Madonna herself, Britney has done little to follow Madonna in the "marketing image" aspect. And thats also why the 'kiss' was such a big deal between those two. Even though the world compared Britney to Madonna, mainly because of their popularity, when Britney kissed Madonna it was the most controversial thing Britney had ever done on stage. For Madonna, it was a walk in the park.

Britney was Janet Jackson with a voice.lol
Now, Britney is Britney Spears.

Except for the constantly evolving sexual tones of her videos, costumes, performances, and lyrics. And magazine covers. And press conferences. Which peaked with the kiss. She went from virgin to whore throughout her career, quite intentionally I believe. Good school girls don't dress like the BOMT video, and don't constantly tease about their virginity. (i.e. the "not that innocent" line, the VMA 2000 stripper performance, the Slave video, all while saying "I'M A VIRGIN" presents a paradox)

Sex = publicity, for Madonna and Britney. And Christina and Janet for that matter.

I agree Britney's style is more Janet than Madonna, but Janet didn't become overly sexual until the Janet album in 1993, so she too was influenced by or forced to compete with Madonna's sex = publicity.

[Jadea Raine]

I dont think Christina is anything like Madonna I always thought she was too talented for that. I put her more in the category of Mariah Carey. Britney has had to copy Madonna because they both are not great singers, britney has a better voice than Madonna but she refuses to use it. I personally dont think Britney was thinking of Madonna when she took those pix, she just wanted to piss somebody off.

[Cubasterd]

Except for the constantly evolving sexual tones of her videos, costumes, performances, and lyrics. And magazine covers. And press conferences. Which peaked with the kiss. She went from virgin to whore throughout her career, quite intentionally I believe. Good school girls don't dress like the BOMT video, and don't constantly tease about their virginity. (i.e. the "not that innocent" line, the VMA 2000 stripper performance, the Slave video, all while saying "I'M A VIRGIN" presents a paradox)

Sex = publicity, for Madonna and Britney. And Christina and Janet for that matter.

I agree Britney's style is more Janet than Madonna, but Janet didn't become overly sexual until the Janet album in 1993, so she too was influenced by or forced to compete with Madonna's sex = publicity.

Sex does equal publicity but Madonna and Janet were walking thin separate lines.
Their sexual personalities were always contrasting.

Janets overly sexual build up from her debut -> 1993 could be easily compared to a 1999-2001 Britney.

Madonna was the not the artist who proved that sex in music videos equals publicity but,for all I know, Janet may have followed to compete. Even then, the same can be compared to Britney gradually amping up the sexuality to compete for a maturer audience.

tiger rascal hit the nail on the head as to why it is completely safe to say Christina is/was/always has been following Madonna and whoever denies it is delusional.

It seems to me Christina tries, and it shows, she tries too hard. Madonna and Britney just are.

Sooo true.
To me, Britney shook off her Janet vibes after 2002 and became who she is today. She established herself as Britney.
Christina just tries so hard to be Madonna and its a turn off. She really tries to play the role as a vocalist version of Madonna, but she pushes it too far and it comes off gimmicky. Not only in her personality but in her music as well. She doesn't stand on her own.

[John]

First of all, Britney is not like Madonna. Don't debase Madonna to that kind of level. Madonna hardly use her personal life to overshadow her public image. Madonna is known for her music, her passion, her videos, her sound, her looks, and everything that's relevant TO her job.

Britney is known for her rehab stints, vagina slips, hanging out with Paris Hilton, losing custody over children, marrying in vegas, etc. She used to be known for similar things that Madonna is known for, but not anymore. Britney's personal life has overshadowed her body of work... something Christina seems to prevent from happening pretty darn well.

[MissA]

Madonna + Janet/Paula = Britney

Madonna + Mariah/Whitney = Christina

[JamXtinaFan]

Madonna + Janet/Paula = Britney

Madonna + Mariah/Whitney = Christina

well said, close of thread.

[Princess Serenity]

I think Britney is more like Madonna.

1. Performer, not vocalist.
2. Makes fun, pop music.
3. Gets a lot of attention, even while doing nothing.
4. Critics cut her life down, but usually praises her music, even though they hate admitting the music is surprisingly good.
5. Great dancer.
6. Shock value.
7. Im sure theres more.

It seems to me Christina tries, and it shows, she tries too hard. Madonna and Britney just are.

No, Britney doesn't try at all. She doesn't even know she has an album out - and that's not something to be praised. Personally I'd rather support an artist who actually makes an effort, but hey, that's just me. Standards are too much for some people, I know.

Because Madonna is not the only dominant female who did that during her time. Britneys music and performing styles point stronger similarities towards Janet Jackson.
Aside from kissing Madonna herself, Britney has done little to follow Madonna in the "marketing image" aspect. And thats also why the 'kiss' was such a big deal between those two. Even though the world compared Britney to Madonna, mainly because of their popularity, when Britney kissed Madonna it was the most controversial thing Britney had ever done on stage. For Madonna, it was a walk in the park.

Britney was Janet Jackson with a voice.lol
Now, Britney is Britney Spears.

LOL at Britney's voice being better than Janet's :manson:

[PieceOfBrit]

No, Britney doesn't try at all.You're right; the talent just comes to her naturally. Like tiger said, she just is. She's a great performer and dancer when she's in right mind and focused, and no one can refute that.

[Princess Serenity]

TALENT? :roll:

What is Britney's talent?

Vocals? Obviously not
Performance? VMAs
Song writing? She only co-wrote two

So what is Britney's talent, other than breathing on the records that other people create for her?

You can't point at her performances four-five years ago and just ASSUME that she can still pull it off. She's proven that she can't. Hell, I could do the splits four years ago. Now I couldn't even get close. I'd be interested to see the proof you have that she can still dance and perform like she used to. We only have one performance, - two if you count that LAUGHABLE attempt at dancing in her video - and a 5 year old child could be sexier and better than that. Oh wait, no, three - house of blues. But I'm sure her fans would rather forget that exists :nc:

Funny how HOB turned out to be better than her VMAs attempt :laugh:

[speedyforme]

^ preach

[DirrtyPopMuzik]

TALENT? :roll:

What is Britney's talent?

Vocals? Obviously not
Performance? VMAs
Song writing? She only co-wrote two

So what is Britney's talent, other than breathing on the records that other people create for her?

You can't point at her performances four-five years ago and just ASSUME that she can still pull it off. She's proven that she can't. Hell, I could do the splits four years ago. Now I couldn't even get close. I'd be interested to see the proof you have that she can still dance and perform like she used to. We only have one performance, - two if you count that LAUGHABLE attempt at dancing in her video - and a 5 year old child could be sexier and better than that. Oh wait, no, three - house of blues. But I'm sure her fans would rather forget that exists :nc:

Funny how HOB turned out to be better than her VMAs attempt :laugh:


:hah: TREATED!!!!

[PieceOfBrit]

Of course I can say she's still capable of pulling off a good performance. It's called deductive logic. What you can't do is judge her talent solely on a performance that she apparently wasn't in the right state for without taking into consideration the circumstances behind it. That would make your judgement invalid, especially if you know she's given stellar performances before. That tells us that when she's in right mind she is able to give great performances.

For comparison, you could do the splits four years ago because you were flexible enough to do it, while Britney gave great performances 3 years ago because she was talented and focused. You can't do the splits now, while Britney doesn't give stellar performances now. What's changed in some 4 years? You're not flexible enough for the splits, and Britney isn't focused enough to perform well. Right each of these problems and you'll see the old results. If you become flexible enough again, you'll be able to do the splits again. If Britney becomes focused and determined again, she'll be able to give great performances again. Her talent hasn't gone anywhere, her mind has.

Does that make sense?

PS, her actual singing voice is great. It's not Christina, nor does it have to be. It's low and soulful and passionate. I recommend you listen to her songs "Let Go" and "State of Grace" if you'd like to hear it yourself.

[SuperPop]

Christina or Britney will never compare to Madonna....

But at least Christina is good and has talent.

Britney is a manufactured pile of garbage turned crazy druggie ugly bad mom.

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[Princess Serenity]

Of course I can say she's still capable of pulling off a good performance. It's called deductive logic. What you [i]can't[i/] do is judge her talent solely on a performance that she apparently wasn't in the right state for without taking into consideration the circumstances behind it. That would make your judgement invalid, especially if you know she's given stellar performances before. That tells us that when she's in right mind she is able to give great performances.

A performance? Which one? The VMAs performance? The video? The multiple HOB performances that she did of her own volition over a period of time? Which one in particular are you referring to?

For comparison, you could do the splits four years ago because you were flexible enough to do it, while Britney gave great performances 3 years ago because she was talented and focused. You can't do the splits now, while Britney doesn't give stellar performances now. What's changed in some 4 years? You're not flexible enough for the splits, and Britney isn't focused enough to perform well. Right each of these problems and you'll see the old results. If you become flexible enough again, you'll be able to do the splits again. If Britney becomes focused and determined again, she'll be able to give great performances again. Her talent hasn't gone anywhere, her mind has.

It's quite easy to lose the ability to dance and perform. And as you said, if she gets focused again she can do it. She isn't now. She can't perform now. It's that simple.

I've heard those songs. Don't think they're any better than her usual fare.

[Cubasterd]

lol.
Then why are you posting on her forum?

[SuperPop]

lol.
Then why are you posting on her forum?


This is a "Britney Spears Forum" not a "Britney Spears Fan Forum"

[Cubasterd]

If you're just coming here to talk sh/t about Britney then you might want to read the forum rules dumb@ss.

[MO-Xtina]

If you're just coming here to talk sh/t about Britney then you might want to read the forum rules dumb@ss.

You should apply that advice when you go to Christina's board and talk crap. Pot kettle black.

[HighHeeledHO]

You should apply that advice when you go to Christina's board and talk crap. Pot kettle black.

:nod: LMFAO... pwnd!

[Cubasterd]

You should apply that advice when you go to Christina's board and talk crap. Pot kettle black.

Its not my fault you're a sensitive fan boy who freaks out over the simplest comment that doesn't line up with your delusional 'legend empire'.:roll:

Nah, for real, are you kidding me?

The last time I went to that board was when someone gave me a link to that thread you titled with my username.
That was almost 2 weeks ago.
Even when I use to visit, which was never frequent(lol), it wasn't to hate on her. I just wanted to see what she was up to but its like damn near every topic was rooted in Chritina v.s <female artist> debate and I'd end up replying to it-- especially when it had something to do with Britney.( which happens in quite a few threads. )

I should go there tonight and post something but I probably won't. Ya'll are boring and you come to this even emptier board cause you know it.
Eat it, lick it, snort it, believe it kid.

[~Crybaby~]

Its not my fault you're a sensitive fan boy who freaks out over the simplest comment

Hilarious. You just tried to go off on someone who read Britney like an open book. :hah:

[Cubasterd]

We weren't even talking about Britney.lol Don't worry nate, that quote applies to you too :laugh:

[~Crybaby~]

:crazy:

[MO-Xtina]

Its not my fault you're a sensitive fan boy who freaks out over the simplest comment that doesn't line up with your delusional 'legend empire'.:roll:

Nah, for real, are you kidding me?

The last time I went to that board was when someone gave me a link to that thread you titled with my username.
That was almost 2 weeks ago.
Even when I use to visit, which was never frequent(lol), it wasn't to hate on her. I just wanted to see what she was up to but its like damn near every topic was rooted in Chritina v.s <female artist> debate and I'd end up replying to it-- especially when it had something to do with Britney.( which happens in quite a few threads. )

I should go there tonight and post something but I probably won't. Ya'll are boring and you come to this even emptier board cause you know it.
Eat it, lick it, snort it, believe it kid.

lol @ you writing a whole paragraph trying to explain yourself. Fact it you go to Christina's board to hate on her. You know it, we all know, so quit trying to save face because you look like a hypocrite.

[PieceOfBrit]

A performance? Which one? The VMAs performance? The video? The multiple HOB performances that she did of her own volition over a period of time? Which one in particular are you referring to?Let's not be clueless on purpose; she's had many great performances: VMAs 2000 and 2001, AMAs 2003, her entire Dream Within A Dream Tour, etc. The list goes on. You're not taking into consideration that her HOB performances were all solely her own, while her past award show and tour performances were not solely her; she had many professionals to help with the production of those performances, and Britney herself was focused and determined. The HOB performances were good considering that it was all her, and Britney showed that she does indeed have talent on her own, but with the assistance of professionals HOB would have been truly great.

It's quite easy to lose the ability to dance and perform. And as you said, if she gets focused again she can do it. She isn't now. She can't perform now. It's that simple.She can give great performances when she's in right mind is what I've been saying this whole time. She can't do so right now because she's off her rocker. Her talent has gone anywhere, her mind has.

I've heard those songs. Don't think they're any better than her usual fare.Her voice not being a powerhouse voice doesn't make it a bad voice is what I'm saying. She has a good voice.

[Princess Serenity]

Let's not be clueless on purpose; she's had many great performances: VMAs 2000 and 2001, AMAs 2003, her entire Dream Within A Dream Tour, etc. The list goes on. You're not taking into consideration that her HOB performances were all solely her own, while her past award show and tour performances were not solely her; she had many professionals to help with the production of those performances, and Britney herself was focused and determined. The HOB performances were good considering that it was all her, and Britney showed that she does indeed have talent on her own, but with the assistance of professionals HOB would have been truly great.

No, let's not be clueless on purpose. So let's not talk about performances that she did five years ago. That was five years ago.

Britney could've had the world for her video and for her VMA performance. EVERYONE wanted to work with her. She chose to wander around in her underwear. She chose to try to pole dance in a way that suggested she'd never even heard of a pole before. You're making all this guesswork! It could be, five years ago it was. You're working on guesswork. I'm working on what exists.

She can give great performances when she's in right mind is what I've been saying this whole time. She can't do so right now because she's off her rocker. Her talent has gone anywhere, her mind has.


Again, can and could. Different words. It really is possible to lose talent. Skills don't remain at their peak forever if you don't use them.

Her voice not being a powerhouse voice doesn't make it a bad voice is what I'm saying. She has a good voice.

lol.

[SuperPop]

PS, her actual singing voice is great.


:laugh:

[PieceOfBrit]

No, let's not be clueless on purpose. So let's not talk about performances that she did five years ago. That was five years ago.

Britney could've had the world for her video and for her VMA performance. EVERYONE wanted to work with her. She chose to wander around in her underwear. She chose to try to pole dance in a way that suggested she'd never even heard of a pole before. You're making all this guesswork! It could be, five years ago it was. You're working on guesswork. I'm working on what exists.No, you're working only with what she's shown to be able to do when she's disoriented. That's a one-sided judgement and it's invalid. I'm using past displays of abililty and present displays ability and taking into consideration the various cirumstances in both to make a valid and reasonable judgement.

Judgement 1) She cannot perform well when she is disoriented and undetermined.

Judgement 2) She can perform well when she is focused and determined.

It's really not difficult to understand.

Again, can and could. Different words. It really is possible to lose talent. Skills don't remain at their peak forever if you don't use them.She can give great performances when she is in right mind.

The word "can" in this sentence indicates her ability to do something. The word "when" in this sentence indicates the cirumstance required for her to do what she has the ability to do. The sentence is correct.

And her HOB performances were recent enough and shows that she does indeed (still) have talent on her own.

[Princess Serenity]

The difference between the words can and could are forever going to be lost on you, so I'm going to step out now ;)