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Regis Philbin
Nov 20th, 2007, 07:17 PM
I thought this surge business wasn't supposed to work... :confused: :scratch:


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/20/world/middleeast/20surge.html?ei=5065&en=7e7d43064c067b63&ex=1196226000&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

Baghdad’s Weary Start to Exhale as Security Improves

By DAMIEN CAVE and ALISSA J. RUBIN

BAGHDAD, Nov. 19 — Five months ago, Suhaila al-Aasan lived in an oxygen tank factory with her husband and two sons, convinced that they would never go back to their apartment in Dora, a middle-class neighborhood in southern Baghdad.

Today she is home again, cooking by a sunlit window, sleeping beneath her favorite wedding picture. And yet, she and her family are remarkably alone. The half-dozen other apartments in her building echo with emptiness and, on most days, Iraqi soldiers are the only neighbors she sees.

“I feel happy,” she said, standing in her bedroom, between a flowered bedspread and a bullet hole in the wall. “But my happiness is not complete. We need more people to come back. We need more people to feel safe.”

Mrs. Aasan, 45, a Shiite librarian with an easy laugh, is living at the far end of Baghdad’s tentative recovery. She is one of many Iraqis who in recent weeks have begun to test where they can go and what they can do when fear no longer controls their every move.

The security improvements in most neighborhoods are real. Days now pass without a car bomb, after a high of 44 in the city in February. The number of bodies appearing on Baghdad’s streets has plummeted to about 5 a day, from as many as 35 eight months ago, and suicide bombings across Iraq fell to 16 in October, half the number of last summer and down sharply from a recent peak of 59 in March, the American military says.

ConnieB
Nov 22nd, 2007, 10:17 PM
Funny how quiet the liberals are now since things are turning around in Iraq. I don't hear much on my local news any more either...

db44
Nov 23rd, 2007, 05:02 AM
And its funny how the two of you thing Iraq is the only place Al Qaeda can be. But that's I guess what Bush wants you to believe, so I'm not surprised.

The insurgents I believe are on the move, which means hopefully Iraq will quiet down. If it does, it will be an interesting point to look at Iraq. We should be able to withdraw more troops (or redeploy them to where the enemy decides the next battle will be. I'm saying Pakistan), and see how Iraq does without any interference. I'm going to say on the latter that it will not be pretty. Once there's no giant watching over the Iraqis, I expect secular violence will become rampant, and the seemingly most dangerous faction is the one that's being left out of the mix the most. Yeah, that's brilliant.

Do you think maybe that's why we're there? Because once we leave, the whole is going to become a war zone? I do, and have said that since day one. I expect that the Bushies, likely out of office at the time, will blame the "Liberals" as you two always do. However, the truth will be that the civil war was the only outcome of our actions there, and therefore Bush's fault. But hey, the cycle will begin all over again, which is what you guys want I guess: A new rallying point for the bloodthirsty and oilthirsty NeoCons.

DoubleEdgeSword
Nov 23rd, 2007, 05:34 AM
Sometimes the New York Times reads like an arm of the PR machine of this administration. Wouldn't be the first time. I used to have tremendous respect for this newspaper. Now, not so much.