Britney Spears, Blackout and Kylie Minogue, X

[Beutifulstranger]

Britney Spears, Blackout and Kylie Minogue, X
http://www.britneyexperts.com/cutenews79/data/upimages/blackout.jpghttp://www.britneyexperts.com/cutenews79/data/upimages/kylie_X.jpg
As the bottom end of the mainstream pop market fails to throw up any new stars, it naturally falls to two of the planet's enduring singers - back following greatest hits albums and not exactly the best few years of their respective lives - to lead the way.
X and Blackout are two of the most talked-about albums of the year and the unusual outcome is that 'deranged' Britney has delivered the best album of her career, raising the bar for modern pop music with an incendiary mix of Timbaland's 'Shock Value' and her own back catalogue, while 'comeback queen' Kylie's X is a somewhat dated-sounding album which could have existed at any point in the past seven years. It is true that Blackout benefits from extremely low expectations (and that the total opposite is true for X) but while Blackout stands as one of 2007's happiest surprises, it genuinely succeeds on its own merit as a frequently genre-busting redefinition of mainstream music, largely thanks to the contribution of Timbaland cohort Danja.
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source: The Observer

[HighHeeledHO]

X >>>>>>>>>>>> Blackout.
By a MILE

[PieceOfBrit]

^ Boy PLEASE. :rolleyes:

[Blueskies511]

X >>>>>>>>>>>> Blackout.
By a MILE
:nod:

[HighHeeledHO]

LMFAO, you can sugarcoat it as you please, but there's no doubt that the quality of the voice, production and material ****ted all over Blackout, given that it's a similar mainstream electronic/techno album :laugh:
Oh well, you're a fangirl of Britney, no doubt you'll digress.

[PieceOfBrit]

Better quality of voice? LOL. You kidding? Hardly, if at all. Better production? Definitely not. Besides that, Blackout is primarily RnB influenced, X is techno dance. And quite honestly, Blackout kicks X all DOWN the the block.

But I see that you call me a biased fan. Of course, how convenient it is for you to say that. You are a Christina fan, so naturally you take any chance you get to belittle anything regarding Britney, just as you are here. It's second nature to Christina fans, so this is expected of you. And this obviously why you declare X better than Blackout when it is clearly not.

And for future reference, I am male.

[HighHeeledHO]

LMAO...
A biased Christina fan? Sure lol.
That doesn't mean I don't like Blackout, I've stated LOTS of time I love it.
And yeah, X still blows Blackout out of the water :laugh:

[PieceOfBrit]

Oh I'm not saying you don't like Blackout. But you're still a biased Christina fan. That much is definite and will always be. You'd diss on Blackout in a heartbeat given the chance (like this one).

And Blackout walks all over X.

[jade.]

What on earth does this have to do with Christina? jesus. :laugh:

[HighHeeledHO]

^LMAO, Nothing.
Funny thing how Brit fans need to drag her in every conversation. The fact that I'm a Christina fan has NOTHING to do with the fact that I think X PWNS Baldout in every single way.

[dynhalinda]

:roll: What on earth does this have to do with Christina? jesus. :laugh:

[PieceOfBrit]

^LMAO, Nothing.
Funny thing how Brit fans need to drag her in every conversation. The fact that I'm a Christina fan has NOTHING to do with the fact that I think X PWNS Baldout in every single way.
No buddy, the fact that you called me a biased Britney fan and suggested that is the reason I pick Blackout over X was turned back against you by me, thus, you were accused of being a bias Christina fan which explained why you pick X over Blackout. The fact that I am a Britney fan has nothing to do with my prefering Blackout over X, but I apparenly can't think Blackout is better than X without being a bias Britney fan. You try to discredit my opinion; I am doing the same with yours. If I am an alleged bias Britney fan then you are a bias Christina fan. If the only reason I choose Blackout over X is because I am a Britney fan then the only reason you choose X over Blackout is because you are a Christina fan, and I have explained why in my second post. Does this make sense? And don't get happy over there; Britney fans don't give about Christina, and judging by the many Christina fans that come here to hate on Britney while the same cannot be said for Britney fans toward Christina, I'd say Christina fans are the ones with their minds on Britney.

What on earth does this have to do with Christina? jesus. :laugh:This has nothing to do with Christina, and everything to do with fanisms. That should have been obvious. See above.

[speedyforme]

as an album, there is NO WAY "X" is better than Blackout, not even close

but Like A Drug craps all over Blackout single handedly...love that song...

[Jadea Raine]

I seriously have to get Blackout to figure out why the heck everyone loves it so much. From the songs ive heard this cd doesnt hold a candle to In The Zone.

[Cubasterd]

No buddy, the fact that you called me a biased Britney fan and suggested that is the reason I pick Blackout over X was turned back against you by me, thus, you were accused of being a bias Christina fan which explained why you pick X over Blackout. The fact that I am a Britney fan has nothing to do with my prefering Blackout over X, but I apparenly can't think Blackout is better than X without being a bias Britney fan. You try to discredit my opinion; I am doing the same with yours. If I am an alleged bias Britney fan then you are a bias Christina fan. If the only reason I choose Blackout over X is because I am a Britney fan then the only reason you choose X over Blackout is because you are a Christina fan, and I have explained why in my second post. Does this make sense? And don't get happy over there; Britney fans don't give about Christina, and judging by the many Christina fans that come here to hate on Britney while the same cannot be said for Britney fans toward Christina, I'd say Christina fans are the ones with their minds on Britney.

This has nothing to do with Christina, and everything to do with fanisms. That should have been obvious. See above.
Well said! No matter how they sugarcoat themselves, they are still delusional trolls and anyone who read these boards can obviously tell. I wouldn't be surprised if this kid has not even heard Kylies album...let alone bought it:funny:
They need to let go of the animosity they have towards Britney for just 'being here'. On the contrary, they should be grateful for Britneys presence. Hell, Kylie too lol

[jimmyboy]

Well said! No matter how they sugarcoat themselves, they are still delusional trolls and anyone who read these boards can obviously tell. I wouldn't be surprised if this kid has not even heard Kylies album...let alone bought it:funny:
They need to let go of the animosity they have towards Britney for just 'being here'. On the contrary, they should be grateful for Britneys presence. Hell, Kylie too lol
Rotf... You and that piece of whatever are the delusional here :arrow:

[PieceOfBrit]

^ Just how?

[nexus]

X better than Blackout? :roll:

Not even her biggest fans agree on that, hell I don't even think Kylie herself would have the nerve to state such a delusion.

She certainly has some fabulous tunes there (Speakerphone, Like a drug, Nu-di-ty - and I personally LOVE it) but the album is nowhere near Blackout, it's not even close to her own previous work and that's saying something :laugh:

Right now anyone would release an album and that'd be considered brilliant just for the sake of discrediting Britney, it ain't even worth the argument anymore.

[PieceOfBrit]

Here's a review of both X and Blackout from The Japan Times.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fm20071123l3.html

As 2007 dribbles to a close, we are treated to long-awaited comeback albums by two renowned lady stars.

Kylie Minogue's "X" is likely to be the subject of fevered praise from loyal fans and critics alike, but if we're brutally honest, it's really not that good. A battle with breast cancer may have kept Kylie out of the charts for several years, but here she delivers a two-dimensional checkbook album recorded with a handful of hit-factory producers (including the chaps behind Britney's amazing "Toxic" single), featuring ham-fisted lyrics advocating love, dancing and the hideously annoying trend of people wielding the loudspeakers on their mobile phones as tiny, tinny boomboxes.

If there's a reference to her struggles here, it's well hidden. Kylie can write about what she likes, of course, but it's hard to imagine how such vacuous subject matter has earned her a reputation as an "artiste" some 19 years after making her similarly vacant debut. The album lacks character almost entirely; when she attempts to get raunchy, as on "Nu-di-ty," it's like watching pornography with your mum. That said, there are some strong Goldfrapp/Madonna-inspired tracks on "X" that will pack out the dance floors at clubs the world over.

Britney Spears, on the other hand, has neither artistic credibility nor public sympathy — her four-year recording absence has seen her marry and divorce twice, have two sons, find and renounce cabala, shave her head and pop in and out of rehab. But what an album she delivers in "Blackout." An edgy, sexy set of grown-up dance-pop, she confronts her critics on "Piece of Me," attacking the paparazzi who have stalked her since her teens and the magazines that have criticized her wavering weight and jolly escapades. And on "Toy Soldier" she seemingly disses her ex-husband Kevin Federline while laying down a gritty floor-filler that bursts out of the speakers.

Of course, "Blackout" is no less a checkbook album, put together by a host of pricey producers, but it oozes personality, hooks and blokes with "silly voices," eschewing the syrupy ballads that made Britney America's sweetheart and presenting her as a force to be reckoned with.

[aleronihead]

I'm a huge Kylie fan. I will say that Blackout is a more cohesive album than X, but truthfully there are individual songs on X (The One, Speakerphone, Like a Drug) that trump almost anything on Blackout. Blackout is an amazing dance/pop record.

Unfortunately, Britney's input into Blackout was minimal at best. Had she been in the right place mentally or emotionally to promote herself and take an active role in her music, it could have been amazing.

Meanwhile, Kylie recorded 49 songs for the album; some of the best leaked and haven't even been included on X. She's working through her continuing cancer treatment, preparing international launches and supposedly working on a new tour.

I can understand the comparisons, but the artists are in such different places that it's not really appropriate.

[aleronihead]

Better quality of voice? LOL. You kidding? Hardly, if at all. Better production? Definitely not. Besides that, Blackout is primarily RnB influenced, X is techno dance. And quite honestly, Blackout kicks X all DOWN the the block.

But I see that you call me a biased fan. Of course, how convenient it is for you to say that. You are a Christina fan, so naturally you take any chance you get to belittle anything regarding Britney, just as you are here. It's second nature to Christina fans, so this is expected of you. And this obviously why you declare X better than Blackout when it is clearly not.

And for future reference, I am male.

Opinions are subjective for one.

That said, I'm surprised to hear anyone say that Blacout is R&B based. It's clearly derived from the new dance/pop that has emerged from the hip-hop/pop combination, but certainly it's not R&B. On the contrary, Kylie has more R&B sounding tracks on X (All I See namely, which is purely R&B inspired) than Blackout.

[PieceOfBrit]

Blackout is primarily RnB, and what I mean by that is that most of the songs have a basic RnB feel, not pop. Songs like Radar and Piece of Me are obviously excluded. Some songs do have a minor pop and/or dance influence, but it doesn't overshadow the RnB. The RnB feel is dominant in the songs that contain it. Tracks Gimme More, Break the Ice, Get Naked, Freakshow, Toy Soldier, Hot as Ice, Ooh Baby, Perfect Lover, and Why Should I Be Sad; all of these are primarily, if not all RnB. If you want to use the term "hip-pop" then use it, but it doesn't change the fact that Blackout is primarily RnB. What X is is primarily techno dance. And there's not a single song on X that is more RnB or comes as close to being as RnB as Get Back, Why Should I Be Sad, Break the Ice, or Perfect Lover.

[aleronihead]

^My interpretation is obviously different. Ooh Ooh Baby and Hot as Ice are pure pop, nothing more, while you could stretch and say that the other songs you list have a hip-hop influence at most, especially Break the Ice and Perfect Lover. Either way, both cds are pop, pop, pop. They're just modern pop for 2007.

[jimmyboy]

BO R&B? :eek: :roll:

[PieceOfBrit]

Thank you, jimmy, for continuing to make a meaningful contribution to the thread.

[brit&janet4eva]

^My interpretation is obviously different. Ooh Ooh Baby and Hot as Ice are pure pop, nothing more, while you could stretch and say that the other songs you list have a hip-hop influence at most, especially Break the Ice and Perfect Lover. Either way, both cds are pop, pop, pop. They're just modern pop for 2007.
i agree

[Cubasterd]

Blackout is an electronic pop album with r&b influence and the same can be said about half the songs on her last album too.

[bl0ndxrebel]

Kylies album is better than Blackout.
However, Blackout is still one of the best albums of the year.

[jimmyboy]

Thank you, jimmy, for continuing to make a meaningful contribution to the thread.
Making a meaningful contribution to a meaningless thread is kinda hard... And U thinking you do is beyond weird...

[Jadea Raine]

Everytime I turn around Blackout is being called her best album to date and that surprises the he** out of me. I dont dislike it I will probably buy it eventually it just really isnt that impressive to me. Just the same ole songs about dancing, songs about a guy...Now she does talk about her he** of a life with Kevin and bashes the media which is justified but I really feel she hasnt grown since the Britney album.

[Danster]

Blackout is primarily RnB, and what I mean by that is that most of the songs have a basic RnB feel, not pop. Songs like Radar and Piece of Me are obviously excluded. Some songs do have a minor pop and/or dance influence, but it doesn't overshadow the RnB. The RnB feel is dominant in the songs that contain it. Tracks Gimme More, Break the Ice, Get Naked, Freakshow, Toy Soldier, Hot as Ice, Ooh Baby, Perfect Lover, and Why Should I Be Sad; all of these are primarily, if not all RnB. If you want to use the term "hip-pop" then use it, but it doesn't change the fact that Blackout is primarily RnB. What X is is primarily techno dance. And there's not a single song on X that is more RnB or comes as close to being as RnB as Get Back, Why Should I Be Sad, Break the Ice, or Perfect Lover.
:roll: Blackout is primarily http://www.sillyjokes.co.uk/images/p-jokes/toilet/cat-crap.jpg

[Danster]

nowadays even http://www.networkingtheinternet.com/images/las-ketchup-asereje.jpg >>>>>>>>> paris >>>>>>> http://www.handelonthelaw.com/content_images/full/news/2007221_britney.jpg :funny:

[Danster]

britney's still great though :love:

[Danster]

They need to let go of the animosity they have towards Britney for just 'being here'. On the contrary, they should be grateful for Britneys presence. Hell, Kylie too lol
u should be grateful for OUR presence here, cuz otherwise this forum is DEAD :o

[Cubasterd]

u should be grateful for OUR presence here, cuz otherwise this forum is DEAD :o

I don't care if this forum is dead...lol Bad comparison kid. I'll still be posting here and doing everything else even if you-and whomever else is considered 'our'- never existed.

[DirrtyPopMuzik]

I seriously have to get Blackout to figure out why the heck everyone loves it so much. From the songs ive heard this cd doesnt hold a candle to In The Zone.


Dont waste your time or money...its good the first couple listens(because its "fun") and then it super lame and forgettable!

[DirrtyPopMuzik]

Blackout is primarily RnB, and what I mean by that is that most of the songs have a basic RnB feel, not pop. Songs like Radar and Piece of Me are obviously excluded. Some songs do have a minor pop and/or dance influence, but it doesn't overshadow the RnB. The RnB feel is dominant in the songs that contain it. Tracks Gimme More, Break the Ice, Get Naked, Freakshow, Toy Soldier, Hot as Ice, Ooh Baby, Perfect Lover, and Why Should I Be Sad; all of these are primarily, if not all RnB. If you want to use the term "hip-pop" then use it, but it doesn't change the fact that Blackout is primarily RnB. What X is is primarily techno dance. And there's not a single song on X that is more RnB or comes as close to being as RnB as Get Back, Why Should I Be Sad, Break the Ice, or Perfect Lover.


Um the only song that is RNB...or close to it is why should I be mad. Its dance pop...with SOME hip-hop infuences. Sorry

[PieceOfBrit]

Danster you are so nasty. >.<

u should be grateful for OUR presence here, cuz otherwise this forum is DEAD :oLMAO. Don't flatter yourself buddy. You're and your kind aren't needed.