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Richard Tafoya
Jun 18th, 2008, 09:57 PM
LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-campaign19-2008jun19,0,1807606.story

Armed with new polls that show him running ahead of his Republican presidential rival in three battleground states, Democrat Barack Obama today turned his attention to foreign policy issues.

Obama met with his new senior working group on national security, advisors who include former secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Warren Christopher, and former Defense Secretary William Perry, who worked for President Clinton and advised Hillary Rodham Clinton during her campaign.

"We continue to face grave threats, not only from terrorism, but also nuclear proliferation, climate change and poverty, genocide and disease," Obama told reporters allowed to attend the opening of the meeting in Washington. "Nearly all of these threats have grown over the last eight years because of the policies of George Bush, which I believe have left us less safe and less respected in the world.

"Instead of adhering to a rigid ideology, I want to get back to the pragmatic tradition of American foreign policy which has been so ably advanced by the people in this room, a policy that's focused on using all elements of American power to protect our people and to advance our interests," Obama said.

Obama and John McCain, the presumptive Republican candidate, have pressed their foreign policy credentials. They disagree on a range of issues, including how to end American involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.

tiger_rascal
Jun 19th, 2008, 08:15 AM
But is it enough?

According to a map at CNN, McCain has more states than Obama.

Richard Tafoya
Jun 19th, 2008, 11:10 AM
This map?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/10/electoral.map/index.html

It shows 153 safe states for Obama at this point and 125 for McCain, with Obama ahead in assumed electoral votes.

tiger_rascal
Jun 19th, 2008, 10:00 PM
Yes, that map. But I see more red, pink and yellow. I dont see much blue. Does that mean that the blue states have the highest number of electoral points than the rest of the country?

tiger_rascal
Jun 19th, 2008, 10:01 PM
And look at WV. :noway: The democrats had WV with Hillary. Now Obama will have to beg for WV votes if he wants to take WV from McCain. :(

Richard Tafoya
Jun 19th, 2008, 10:29 PM
Yes, that map. But I see more red, pink and yellow. I dont see much blue. Does that mean that the blue states have the highest number of electoral points than the rest of the country?
Yeah, mouse over those middle states. If cows could vote, there'd be cause for concern there, but ND = 3 electoral votes, SD = 3, NE = 5. Then you look at CA = 55, NY = 31, etc. TX is 34, but that's the single major prize in the McCain safe column.

The fact is, if Obama can keep his safe states, firm up the Obama-leaning states and move MI, OH and FL from the toss-up column to the Obama column, he's got the election.

tiger_rascal
Jun 20th, 2008, 09:44 AM
Oh, yes, Im not a fan of the electoral college. Im a fan of the popular vote.

Have we forgotten Gore and Bush?

pinky
Jun 20th, 2008, 04:24 PM
I'm no fan either, Chad. It worked when the Constitution was drawn up, but it's a bit of an anachronism now.

But if cows could vote, they might be smarter than some of the people who voted for Bush/Cheney.

Richard Tafoya
Jun 20th, 2008, 04:30 PM
True, though if cows could vote, the dairy lobby would be in for a fight.