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Richard Tafoya
Sep 9th, 2008, 06:01 PM
Mark Ambinder at The Atlantic:
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/obama_did_not_call_sarah_palin.php

The first McCain truthsquadding telephone call is taking place right now, and ex-MA Gov. Jane Swift is complaining about an idiom Barack Obama used today (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Obama_Lipstick_on_a_pig.html):

Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin's new "change" mantra.
"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said as the crowd cheered. "It's still a pig."
"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."
"We've had enough of the same old thing."
Suddenly, common analogies are sexist?

The McCain campaign has little respect for Obama, but they don't think he is stupid. And the only way one can conclude that Obama meant to refer to Gov. Sarah Palin as a pig is to have concluded that Obama is as dumb as a doornail.

Obama is fond of this particular phrase. To wit (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/13/AR2007091301679_pf.html), in 2007:

'I think that both General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker are capable people who have been given an impossible assignment,' Sen. Barack Obama said yesterday in a telephone interview. 'George Bush has given a mission to General Petraeus, and he has done his best to try to figure out how to put lipstick on a pig.

And so is John McCain. Speaking about Hillary Clinton.... (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/mccain_rolls_out_health_plan_a.html)

McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health-care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's plan, he said it was "eerily reminiscent" of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the 1990s.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.

pinky
Sep 9th, 2008, 07:36 PM
Of course, Palin's line about hockey moms and pit bulls will make a lot of people think Obama is calling her a pig.

DoubleEdgeSword
Sep 9th, 2008, 08:14 PM
Another distraction. I'm more concerned why Palin isn't talking to the press. We have a right to know what she's about and yet, she's not talking, not answering any questions. I've even heard some that she doesn't have to and the press are "badgering her." Are you kidding me?

FOJ
Sep 9th, 2008, 08:23 PM
Another distraction. I'm more concerned why Palin isn't talking to the press. We have a right to know what she's about and yet, she's not talking, not answering any questions. I've even heard some that she doesn't have to and the press are "badgering her." Are you kidding me?

Really? I don't think so...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13264.html

DoubleEdgeSword
Sep 9th, 2008, 08:26 PM
Good. I'll be listening.

pinky
Sep 9th, 2008, 08:52 PM
I wonder if she'll be giving in-depth answers, or just flip sound bites.

LesterX
Sep 9th, 2008, 10:27 PM
Another distraction. I'm more concerned why Palin isn't talking to the press. We have a right to know what she's about and yet, she's not talking, not answering any questions. I've even heard some that she doesn't have to and the press are "badgering her." Are you kidding me?

Didn't you hear? According to McCain's campaign manager, she will only talk to the press when shown the proper respect and deference. That's right, the media are supposed to be deferential to Queen Sarah.

Richard Tafoya
Sep 10th, 2008, 12:38 AM
I can't believe he called her a stinky fish.

DoubleEdgeSword
Sep 10th, 2008, 05:56 AM
Didn't you hear? According to McCain's campaign manager, she will only talk to the press when shown the proper respect and deference. That's right, the media are supposed to be deferential to Queen Sarah.


Seriously? Her manager acutally used the word "deference?" What political planet does this woman come from?

tiger_rascal
Sep 10th, 2008, 06:34 AM
i can't believe he called her a stinky fish.

ikr!

tiger_rascal
Sep 10th, 2008, 06:36 AM
Hey Richard, why is it when I quoted you the R and T in your name is not capitalized?

Just something I noticed.

LesterX
Sep 10th, 2008, 07:58 AM
Seriously? Her manager acutally used the word "deference?" What political planet does this woman come from?

Indeed, he did, in a heated exchange with Chris Wallace of all people. You can watch the entire exchange here:

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/07/palin-watch-respect-and-deference/

The deference line is toward the end of the clip.

LesterX
Sep 10th, 2008, 08:39 AM
I can't believe he called her a stinky fish.

I know! That's not respectful nor deferential, so I guess Sarah will be giving Obama the silent treatment too.

db44
Sep 10th, 2008, 08:40 AM
Obama flat-out laughing at the McCain party over this... Except he says it's not funny because the media ran with it.

SparkleHugs
Sep 10th, 2008, 09:20 AM
What i like about it is that John McCain has used the EXACT same anology before refering to Hillary's health care plans and no one called it sexist.

pinky
Sep 10th, 2008, 03:50 PM
But Hillary's not a babe, Sparks. You can make comments like that about her and get away with it.


:rolleyes: