Palin Links Iraq to Sept. 11 In Talk to Troops in Alaska

[LesterX]

Is she a compulsive liar, a complete idiot or both?


FORT WAINWRIGHT, Alaska, Sept. 11 -- Gov. Sarah Palin linked the war in Iraq with the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, telling an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would "defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans."

The idea that the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein helped al-Qaeda plan the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, a view once promoted by Bush administration officials, has since been rejected even by the president himself. But it is widely agreed that militants allied with al-Qaeda have taken root in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion.

"America can never go back to that false sense of security that came before September 11, 2001," she said at the deployment ceremony, which drew hundreds of military families who walked from their homes on the sprawling post to the airstrip where the service was held.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/11/AR2008091103789.html?hpid=topnews

[Whoda Thunk?]

I vote for both.

[Incident]

Or is it as the reporter points out we are NOW fighting al-Queda in Iraq. She is linking al-queda to 9/11, duh?

She said nothing (as posted in the article) that was a lie or idiotic, she spoke the truth. One would have to be an idiot or a liar to claim otherwise.

[LesterX]

Have you run out of mud to sling on the Bruce rants board so now you're gracing us with your presence over here?

Oh please, same old ****, different day. If someone else wants get in a long argument with you on a topic that has been discussed to death, they're more than welcome to do so. I won't waste my time, nor will I change my opinion that she is either a liar, an idiot or both.

[SparkleHugs]

I say she's both.

I loved that she said that the "task from God" comment about war was similar to when Lincoln said during the Civil War we shouldn't hope that God is on our side but we are on God's side.....:rolleyes: yeah, cause that's similar...

It offended me.

[pinky]

Actually, Sparks, she didn't say that our war in Iraq was God's will. She was saying, essentially, that she hoped that we were doing God's will there. It's been widely misinterpreted.

However, I take issue with the entire notion that God would will anyone to make war. That's what drove 9/11 in the first place.

[pinky]

Or is it as the reporter points out we are NOW fighting al-Queda in Iraq. She is linking al-queda to 9/11, duh?

She said nothing (as posted in the article) that was a lie or idiotic, she spoke the truth. One would have to be an idiot or a liar to claim otherwise.

I demand that you retract your libelous claim that people who have a negative opinion of Sarah Palin's talk must be idiots.

[tiger_rascal]

I dont mean to get in the middle of this discussion, but just from reading the article posted, it really doesnt sound like she was linking 9/11 and Iraq.

Maybe Im missing something? Please dont bash me! *runs* :eek:

[pinky]

....telling an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would "defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans." They're going to Iraq, to fight those "who planned and carried out" the 9/11 attacks?

[tiger_rascal]

But it is widely agreed that militants allied with al-Qaeda have taken root in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion.

Could she not be referring to this?

[DoubleEdgeSword]

I dont mean to get in the middle of this discussion, but just from reading the article posted, it really doesnt sound like she was linking 9/11 and Iraq.

Maybe Im missing something? Please dont bash me! *runs* :eek:

It was typical old school Bush/Cheney speak. Don't really say outright that Saddam is linked to bin Laden and 9/11, just suggest it.

Even though that's been disproved time and time again, you'll still find some who keep repeating the same old tired inuendo/lie.

[tiger_rascal]

Thats true.

[Incident]

Could she not be referring to this?



Don't let Palin's actual words, fool you, get with the program. Since she is not a liberal, she can lied about by the likes of bitter old hags like LesterX, who can't stand her, because she is all that the Feminist movement could ever dream about.

Hateful, spiteful, jealous Harpies

[LesterX]

Hateful? Pot.Kettle.Black. I could say much more, but for now I'll leave it at that.

I guess conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan also is a hateful, spiteful, jealous harpie -- or perhaps a bitter old hag -- since he doesn't seem to be too fond of Palin either and agrees with me about her comment re: 9/11 and Iraq.


For the past two weeks serious commentators and columnists have been asked to take the candidacy of Sarah Palin for the vice-presidency of the United States seriously.

Formerly sane people have written of the McCain campaign’s selection of this running mate as if it represents a new face for Republicanism, an emblem of can-do western spirit, a brilliant ploy to win over Clinton voters, a new feminism, a reformist revolution, and a genius appeal to the religious right.

I’m afraid I cannot join in. In fact I cannot say anything about this candidacy that takes it in any way seriously. It is a farce. It is absurd. It is an insult to all intelligent people. It is a sign of a candidate who has lost his mind. There is no way to take the nomination of Palin to be vice-president of the world’s sole superpower - except to treat it as a massive, unforgivable, inexplicable decision by someone who has either gone insane or is managerially unfit to be president of the United States. When, at some point, the hysteria dies down, even her supporters will realise that, by this decision, McCain has rendered himself unfit to run a branch of Starbucks, let alone the White House.
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But at the end of last week we were granted an audience with the Princess of Alaska. It was painful. She had no idea what the Bush Doctrine was – the central and most controversial foreign policy innovation of the past eight years: the doctrine of preemption against states with WMDs. Moreover, in her speech the same day, she described the war in Iraq. She said her eldest son, who has just enlisted, would “defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans”.

Does Palin believe that the men who planned and carried out the 9/11 attack are in Iraq? The hijackers are all dead, but Bin Laden and Zawahiri and the rest of the gang are, as far as we know, in Pakistan. Nobody believes they are in Iraq.
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She is the biggest joke to be put on a ticket in national politics. The most accurate thing said about her in the past two weeks was said on the day she was picked. It was said by Alaska’s Republican state senate president, Lyda Green: “She’s not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice-president or president? Look at what she’s done to this state. What would she do to the nation?”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4746999.ece?print=yes&randnum=1221348138515

[Incident]

Hateful? Pot.Kettle.Black. I could say much more, but for now I'll leave it at that.

I guess conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan also is a hateful, spiteful, jealous harpie -- or perhaps a bitter old hag -- since he doesn't seem to be too fond of Palin either and agrees with me about her comment re: 9/11 and Iraq.



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4746999.ece?print=yes&randnum=1221348138515

Yes, isn't he the one that that sought to bring credence to the rumour that Palin's son was actually her daughters baby? Yes he is a spiteful, hateful jealous harpie (at least concerning Sarah Palin), in addition he is also a nutjob.

[LesterX]

No, that is a false claim and I demand :rolleyes: that you retract it. What he suggested was that the issue could be put to rest very easily with basic information released by the McCain/Palin camp, such as a doctor indicating s/he was present at the birth.

Where has Bristol Palin (far right, holding Trig, with a ring on her wedding finger) been for the past year? Has she been attending high school? Or was she absent because of infectious mononucleosis for between five and eight months, as is now being reported on the Internet?

Why would a 43 year old woman, on her fifth pregnancy, with a Down Syndrome child, after her amniotic fluid has started to leak, not go to the nearest hospital immediately, even if she was in Texas for a speech?

Why would she not only not go to the hospital in Texas, but take an eight-hour plane flight to Seattle and then Anchorage?

Why would she choose to deliver the baby not in the nearest major facility in Anchorage but at a much smaller hospital near her home-town?

Why did the flight attendants on the trip home say she bore no signs of being pregnant?

It strikes me as likely that there are reasonable answers to these questions - more reasonable than the only one given so far -

"You can't have a fish picker from Texas," said Todd -

and the rumors buzzing across the Internets and the press corps are unfounded and unseemly....But the noise around this story is now deafening, and the weirdness of the chronology sufficient to rise to the level of good faith questions. So please give us these answers - and provide medical records for Sarah Palin's pregnancy - and put this to rest.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/things-that-mak.html

[Incident]

No, that is a false claim and I demand :rolleyes: that you retract it. What he suggested was that the issue could be put to rest very easily with basic information released by the McCain/Palin camp, such as a doctor indicating s/he was present at the birth.


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/things-that-mak.html


Like I said the man is a loon. I think I will add deranged to the description of those of your ilk.

Spiteful, hateful, jealous and deranged harpy. That's better. But keep it up, it will only help McCain's campaign.

[LesterX]

Adding another defamatory adjective to your list doesn't change the fact that your claim is false and therefore you are a liar. It's no wonder that you're such a fan boy of Sarah Palin.

[pinky]

Enjoy your vacation, Paul. You have a week to figure out how to discuss without resorting to hateful language directed at another member.

And NO, I'm not referring to your rant against me.