McCain Campaign Admits Palin Didn't Actually Visit Iraq Or Ireland

[Richard Tafoya]

TPM:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/election_central_saturday_roun_30.php

The Boston Globe has also reported (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/09/13/palin_camp_clarifies_extent_of_iraq_trip/) that Sarah Palin did not actually visit Iraq or Ireland, as the McCain campaign previously maintained. When questioned further, McCain campaign aides admitted that Palin only visited troops in Kuwait and did not cross the Iraqi border, and her "travel" to Ireland consisted of a refueling stop.

[pinky]

Hey, I flew over Iceland once. Does that count?

[Richard Tafoya]

I think you just gained massive foreign policy experience with that fact.

[tiger_rascal]

I've been to Canada! :)

[pinky]

I think you just gained massive foreign policy experience with that fact.

McCain should have picked me!


Would I have had to switch to Republican for that to happen? :]

[LesterX]

Hey, I flew over Iceland once. Does that count?

I think that depends entirely on whether you were able to see Iceland from the plane window. If so, congratulations you're a foreign policy expert.

[tiger_rascal]

Does Canada not count? :(

Can I be like an adviser or something? :)

[pinky]

I think it does, Chad. After all, West Virginia is closer to Canada than Wasilla is to Russia. :wink:

[lions1mew]

I've been to Canada AND Mexico ... can I re-negotiate NAFTA now? *nods*

:p

[pinky]

I can be on that team, Margaret. I've also been to both.

After all Niagara Falls and Cancun are really important to the international scene, aren't they?

[lions1mew]

Because *shifty eyes* you know Canada is about to invade us from the north!! BLAME CANADA! *marches*

:p

[LesterX]

Does Canada not count? :(

Can I be like an adviser or something? :)

Were you in a predominately French-speaking province or English speaking? If it was English speaking, I'm afraid that might not be foreign enough to award you the "expert" credential, but I'm sure a nice ambassadorship to Canada awaits you.

[LesterX]

Would it be inappropriate to anoint myself Queen of Earth? I've been to every continent except Antarctica, so if Sarah Palin gets to be a foreign policy expert based on her state's proximity to Russia and thus qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, I strongly feel I'm qualified to be more than a mere president.

*Rushes to find out how to become one of those every day people who rides the space shuttle so I can then become Queen of the Universe.* I suspect I may have to settle for Queen of Earth though, as I think the cost of a space shuttle ride may be a tad out of my league.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

My neighbor vacationed in French Quarter of NOLA last winter, so hey...

[DoubleEdgeSword]

*Rushes to find out how to become one of those every day people who rides the space shuttle so I can then become Queen of the Universe.* I suspect I may have to settle for Queen of Earth though, as I think the cost of a space shuttle ride may be a tad out of my league.

You could send your DNA into space. That would qualify. Mmmmhm.

[LesterX]

^Yes! I will RULE!

For that brilliant suggestion, I promise to appoint you Vice Queen of the Universe. I hope you will be available regularly to attend state funerals in other galaxies, as well as here on Earth.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

I serve at the pleasure of the Queen. *bows*

[lions1mew]

Uhm ... excuse me ... I've seen every single episode of every single Star Trek TV series and all the movies. I think that more than qualifies me for Queen of the Universe. We're gonna hafta have an election *nods*

[LesterX]

Uh oh, I could be screwed as I don't think I've ever seen an entire episode of Star Trek. Wait...I have booked tons of hotels through Priceline. Since William Shatner is their spokesperson, I think that gives me enough Star Trek cred. Oh, and I sat at the table next to Walter Koenig in a restaurant recently. (My friend recognized him; I wouldn't have had a clue.)

In the spirit of unity and compromise, I may be willing to give up control of other galaxies in exchange for being Queen of Earth and a serious wad of cash. Let me ponder that for a bit.

[lions1mew]

I've been to Star Trek CONVENTIONS too so there *sticks tongue out* And I've met Gene Roddenberry, DeForest Kelley, James Doohan (may they rest in peace), Majel Barrett Roddenberry, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Patrick Stewart, Mark Lenard, Jonathan Frakes, Marina Sirtis, Avery Brooks, LeVar Burton, Michael Dorn, Brent Spiner, Gates McFadden ... well you get the idea. And I think that gives me diplomatic experience as some of those people were not human ... kinda like Dubya :scratch:

:p

[LesterX]

^Should I admit that I don't even know who some of those people are, or try to fudge it a la Queen Sarah? *googles madly*

And I think that gives me diplomatic experience as some of those people were not human ... kinda like Dubya

Were they as dumb as Dubya? If so, I will give you full credit for diplomatic experience.

[pinky]

Would it be inappropriate to anoint myself Queen of Earth? I've been to every continent except Antarctica, so if Sarah Palin gets to be a foreign policy expert based on her state's proximity to Russia and thus qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, I strongly feel I'm qualified to be more than a mere president.
Wear a tuxedo, and you should be able to convince some Republicans you're a penguin. That should take care of your Anarctica problem. ;)

[pinky]

^Should I admit that I don't even know who some of those people are, or try to fudge it a la Queen Sarah? *googles madly*
Since I can identify all of those people (and their Trek characters), I think I could whip your butt in a debate. Maybe you'd better get some Bush people to coach you.

[tiger_rascal]

I'll just be happy to be one of your servants. Im not qualified for anything else.

*bows*

[lions1mew]

Pinky LOLOL

And to my learned, well-traveled opponent, I concede you do have knowledge to "do the google." Well done!

And no, I don't think anyone is as dumb as Dubya ... however ... that Alaska wolf-killer is getting really REALLY close *nods*

[LesterX]

Wear a tuxedo, and you should be able to convince some Republicans you're a penguin. That should take care of your Anarctica problem. ;)

Another brilliant suggestion, for which I will award you also with a Vice Queen of the Universe title. I hope you don't mind sharing a title with DES.

[LesterX]

I'll just be happy to be one of your servants. Im not qualified for anything else.

*bows*

I suggested a Canadian ambassadorship for you, but if that isn't up your alley I'm sure we can find something other than servant. Don't sell yourself short! After all, we are in the era where being able to see a foreign country from your state's soil qualifies as foreign policy expertise.

You need to learn the fine art of bluster or creative bs. Surely you have some hobbies or special skills that can translate into high-level positions. For example, don't you bike ride? That qualifies you for Secretary of Environmentally-Friendly Transportation.

[pinky]

Another brilliant suggestion, for which I will award you also with a Vice Queen of the Universe title. I hope you don't mind sharing a title with DES.

Ooh! Ooh! I'm really good at vice! :D

[LesterX]

Ooh! Ooh! I'm really good at vice! :D

Heh, when I typed out the title I suspected your interpretation might have a twist to it. ;)

[db44]

Hey, I flew over Iceland once. Does that count?

Stop by next time. It's an interesting country.

Maybe we could take Palin's money and build a bridge there...

[db44]

Uhm ... excuse me ... I've seen every single episode of every single Star Trek TV series and all the movies. I think that more than qualifies me for Queen of the Universe. We're gonna hafta have an election *nods*


Including the animated series?

If you managed to sit the entirety of Voyager, there is something wrong with you, so no, you can't be QotU. Great Bird of the Galaxy is up for grabs still. :(

And as for conventions, while it's been a while, I've been to my share. Where does that put me?

[pinky]

Voyager wasn't as bad as DS9.

[db44]

DS9 started better, before it became space soap. And it was the most unique of the shows: Exploring new life that came through the prominade.

By the end, yes, it sucked (which sucks as Sisco/Brooks was my favorite captain).

Voyager was soap opera-y the whole way through. And while the original treatment said supplies - and more importantly - crew, would be limited, it seemed they always managed to replenish their "red shirts."

[lions1mew]

Hey now ... I LOVED DS9! Odo ruled. Hands down. Well next to Data of course. They only angered me when they killed off Jadzia at the end of the 6th season.

Voyager was incredible too ... Janeway rocked! The only one that disappointed me in a lot of ways was Enterprise. LOVE Scott Bakula, but it just never grabbed me the way it should have.

TOS and ST:TNG will always be the best though.

So back to ruling ... we could divide up the galaxy into quadrants like they did in DS9. Alpha Quadrant, Gamma, etc. I take dibs on Alpha *cheeses*

[pinky]

TNG was the best, by far. At least it was once they got rid of Denise Crosby.

[Stormerella]

Random, but that is how I am... <3 ST: TNG.

[lions1mew]

Random, but that is how I am... <3 ST: TNG.

Stephdubs! *pounces* About time you got here missy!

And yes, ST:TNG is the best by far. But you gotta love the classic TOS and Gene Roddenberry's vision *nods*

[Stormerella]

Stephdubs! *pounces* About time you got here missy!

And yes, ST:TNG is the best by far. But you gotta love the classic TOS and Gene Roddenberry's vision *nods*
*falls down* I knooow! I always wonder what exactly goes on around here, so I thought I would give it a try. And it doesn't hurt to know some people going into it. ;)

TOS... is that Star Trek? LOL. I am not good with acronyms... unless it's BSB songs... bwahahah.

[lions1mew]

TOS - The Original Series

Get with the lingo woman LOL

[Stormerella]

TOS - The Original Series

Get with the lingo woman LOL
...I knew that! I was just making sure you did! Yeah. I love how this thread is supposed to be about Palin but... we're discussing Star Trek.

[SparkleHugs]

I've been to Star Trek CONVENTIONS too so there *sticks tongue out* And I've met Gene Roddenberry, DeForest Kelley, James Doohan (may they rest in peace), Majel Barrett Roddenberry, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Patrick Stewart, Mark Lenard, Jonathan Frakes, Marina Sirtis, Avery Brooks, LeVar Burton, Michael Dorn, Brent Spiner, Gates McFadden ... well you get the idea. And I think that gives me diplomatic experience as some of those people were not human ... kinda like Dubya :scratch:

:p


As a daughter of a Trekkie, and since i was named after Spock's mother, out of curiosity....why didnt you put may he rest in peace after Gene Roddenberry? He is the grand master of it all.

And I have also seen every single movie, most tv shows, and once went to a tv taping of a William Shatner TV show.

I think this qualifies me to be in the running at least!

How did you meet all these people? Aren't Conventions as costly sending a kid off to college?


and who is Denise Crosby? what character was she?

[db44]

I think the RIP was for all three of them. Mark Leonard could have been included in that part as well.

Denise Crosby was Tasha Yar, the Enterprise's (D) security chief for most of season one. She was replaced by Worf, who was already on the show.

I never saw Gene, and saw everyone up until DS9. I haven't been to a Con since Voyager started, but hope to make it to one in the near future.

And, no they aren't college-expensive. A day pass used to me, in the late 80's, about $16. Some are whole weekend things, where they rent out a whole hotel. Those could get pricy. But if you lived in New York, it was just a day down at the Hotel Pennsylvania.

Without Classic (TOS), the others wouldn't exist. Sounds so City on the Edge of Forever, doesn't it? ;)

For the most part, I liked Enterprise a lot. I'm a sucker for continuity, so going back in history and explaining some things from later generations was a good thing. Also, after TOS, I think they took the future technology for granted often. Having Enterprise rely on technology more was a good thing. Seeing them test things, i.e. using the transporter for the first time on living beings, was cool.

Yay! My inner geekdom is running free!!! :D

[lions1mew]

I think the RIP was for all three of them. Mark Leonard could have been included in that part as well.

Denise Crosby was Tasha Yar, the Enterprise's (D) security chief for most of season one. She was replaced by Worf, who was already on the show.

I never saw Gene, and saw everyone up until DS9. I haven't been to a Con since Voyager started, but hope to make it to one in the near future.

And, no they aren't college-expensive. A day pass used to me, in the late 80's, about $16. Some are whole weekend things, where they rent out a whole hotel. Those could get pricy. But if you lived in New York, it was just a day down at the Hotel Pennsylvania.

Without Classic (TOS), the others wouldn't exist. Sounds so City on the Edge of Forever, doesn't it? ;)

For the most part, I liked Enterprise a lot. I'm a sucker for continuity, so going back in history and explaining some things from later generations was a good thing. Also, after TOS, I think they took the future technology for granted often. Having Enterprise rely on technology more was a good thing. Seeing them test things, i.e. using the transporter for the first time on living beings, was cool.

Yay! My inner geekdom is running free!!! :D

I totally forgot that we had lost Mark *sighs* such an incredible actor. First saw him on "Here Come The Brides" as Aaron Stemple, the mill owner. Then he was Sarek on TOS the next year.

And I agree on Enterprise. The writing was haphazard though, some episodes outstanding, some never really made sense. I know they would have been so much better as time went on, but the merger between UPN and the WB killed it. They never got their 7 years to shine!

My inner geekdom is always just below the surface LOL I'm a Trekker for life!

[LesterX]

Dear Lord, I'm surrounded by Trekkies! How about you all just divide up the galaxies and I'll settle for being Queen of Earth? I'm prone to motion sickness and I doubt Dramamine would help with space travel, so it's probably for the best that I remain on this planet.

[db44]

You aren't one of us Leslie? I think it was Trek that in a large part helped me form my political views.

[pinky]

Once you get beyond our atmosphere, you don't even notice the motion (unless you get hit by the Kardassians or the Romulans). And that trip only takes a few seconds. :nod:

[LesterX]

Are the Kardassians like the Kardashians? Because those girls scare me. ;)

[LesterX]

You aren't one of us Leslie? I think it was Trek that in a large part helped me form my political views.

I'm serious when I say I don't think I've ever seen an entire episode of Star Trek. I don't know why. I have a vague memory that my brother might have been a Star Trek fan, which would have automatically made me a non-fan, as we didn't get along at all as kids! I guess I should be over that now though, huh? ;)

I might have seen one of the movies -- I can't remember, which may be a testament to my aging memory or the forgettable nature of the film. ;)

[pinky]

Only the odd-numbered movies were forgettable. If you saw one of the even-numbered ones, you'd remember.

The Kardassians are nowhere near as scary as the Kardashians. :greyno:

[db44]

It was a good thinking person's show, like the Twilight Zone. The effects, sets and costumes may have been cheesy, but the writing seperated it from the likes of late Lost in Space (a show which started off as exciting before they writers seemingly discovered mind-altering drugs). In three years, the show did well handling issues such as racism, war, self-consciousness, religion and tribbles (Just had to throw that in there). Again like the Zone, it was the only way to get its messages out there, masking our issues by placing them on other worlds, with alien races. TNG did even better with that.

[tiger_rascal]

Dear Lord, I'm surrounded by Trekkies! How about you all just divide up the galaxies and I'll settle for being Queen of Earth? I'm prone to motion sickness and I doubt Dramamine would help with space travel, so it's probably for the best that I remain on this planet.

Can I stay on Earth with you, please? :nc:

[LesterX]

Can I stay on Earth with you, please? :nc:

Of course! I've already suggested a couple of high-level positions you'd be great for under my royal administration, but I'm open to other ideas. Just because I've anointed myself Queen of Earth doesn't mean I will be dictatorial in my rule. ;)

[lions1mew]

Well said! And look closely at your flip cell phone ... remind you of anything?

http://www.geekalerts.com/u/st-communicator.jpg

Gene Roddenberry was a visionary *nods*

[LesterX]

It was a good thinking person's show, like the Twilight Zone. The effects, sets and costumes may have been cheesy, but the writing seperated it from the likes of late Lost in Space (a show which started off as exciting before they writers seemingly discovered mind-altering drugs). In three years, the show did well handling issues such as racism, war, self-consciousness, religion and tribbles (Just had to throw that in there). Again like the Zone, it was the only way to get its messages out there, masking our issues by placing them on other worlds, with alien races. TNG did even better with that.

Maybe I'll have to check out a few episodes. I have heard of tribbles!

[lions1mew]

Tribble:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/TREK%20Tribbles%20online%20-%20Credit%20Paramount%20Domestic%20Television.jpg

Loveable to all races except Klingons *snickers*

[db44]

What issues would you like to visit? I'm sure we can all suggest some. My favorites have always been those about self-consciousness. Therefore, my faves in TNG are "Measures of a Man" and "I, Borg."

[lions1mew]

Excellent choices! Love those episodes! So many TNG episodes to choose from!

[LesterX]

Okay, it took me about three minutes to realize that TNG stands for The Next Generation, so I'm a true newbie. I'll check out the ones you suggested. Potentially dumb question: Are the episodes self-contained, or do I have to have followed from the beginning of a particular series to understand what is going on?

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Trekkies! *flails arms and runs away!*

[lions1mew]

Oh shoosh DES you know you love Star Trek ... c'mon now LOL

[tiger_rascal]

I hate Star Trek.

Hate.It.

[SparkleHugs]

Have any of you guys seen these??
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I really like the communicator.

[lions1mew]

Have any of you guys seen these??
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I really like the communicator.

Oh. Em. Gee. I MUST HAVE THE TRIBBLES ONE!!!

And Tiger ... *shakes head* Only Commies don't like Star Trek *glares*

:p

[pinky]

That's right. The rest of us are "Yangs."

[SparkleHugs]

I think most people who dont like star trek are people who havent given it a chance. if you really pay attention to it and learn stuff from it. it's a really amazing show. when i was young i really hated it when star trek was on, i thought it was sooo boring and i didnt get it. but since my mom wouldnt listen to my bullying i finally got into it and really grew to appreciate the series.

[db44]

Okay, it took me about three minutes to realize that TNG stands for The Next Generation, so I'm a true newbie. I'll check out the ones you suggested. Potentially dumb question: Are the episodes self-contained, or do I have to have followed from the beginning of a particular series to understand what is going on?

Not so much in these episodes, although there are some two-parters in the run of the show.

I think "I, Borg" is self-explaining, although for basic reference, the Borg are the big enemies in TNG. Cyborgs that "assimilate" the races they come across. By the time of this episode, they had attempted to kidnap the captain and turn him into one of them.

[db44]

That's right. The rest of us are "Yangs."

Niiiice TOS reference!

Chad hating Trek doesn't surprise me. DES freaking out does a little...

[lions1mew]

That's right. The rest of us are "Yangs."

Pinky ... you freakin' rock ... for serious *nods*

[pinky]

*bows*

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Oh shoosh DES you know you love Star Trek ... c'mon now LOL

I do love Star Trek. Trekkies? Well I'll defer to William Shatner's infamous quote... :p

[db44]

I can't vouch for Margaret, but I've kissed a girl.

[lions1mew]

I kissed my daughter's cheek does that count? Otherwise Margaret doesn't swing that way. More power to those who do though, freedom of choice is a wonderful thing *nods*

I've kissed a guy or three ... and one of them was an alien *shifty eyes* or at least he looked that way at the convention ... you can never tell at one of those things :p

And DES, those of us who aren't insane and obsessed, are Trekkers! *pumps fist*

:angel: