~* The Official Britney: For the Record Thread *~

[PieceOfBrit]

9-10 PM. Britney Spears Countdown: A look at Britney Spears's 10 most memorable MTV moments.
10-11 PM. Britney Spears: For the Record: A look at the pop singer as she prepairs for the release of her sixth studio album, "Circus."
11-11:08 PM. Britney Speard Wrap Up: The "Britney: For the Record" documentary is discussed.
<All three segments repeat immediately after the wrap up ends.>

Only six and a half hours to go folks!! :music:

[Elroy Jetson]

LOL... I think we were all posting at the Britney thread over at the Christina forum.

GREAT documentary.

[PieceOfBrit]

LOL... I think we were all posting at the Britney thread over at the Christina forum.It sure seems that way. o_O I just made a post there asking about it.

[totodyal]

I think Britney told some revealing things about her own personality so that people can understand the type of person she is. From that, you accurately assume the "whys?!" behind the juicy stuff you wanted to know.

I loved the part about 'making yourself happy' even when you're pissed...

[aint_no_other]

......

[Black Velvet]

Watching it now. This is excellent. :cool:

"those are hooker shoes" lol

[totodyal]

Watching it now. This is excellent. :cool:

"those are hooker shoes" lol

I got a creepy vibe from her dad. I think he treats Britney like crap but was acting nice for the camera....
And thats how Britney said it was too.

I feel like he's trying to be a permanent part of her career instead of a father who wants to help his daughter.

[Paulina]

someone please upload it!

[ajfromtheblock]

is there like a hq/hd download link?

[Paulina]

is there like a hq/hd download link?

Soon I think. At least I haven't found one yet.

[heavenwaits_22]

It was soo good.

[PieceOfBrit]

Yep, it was great. I recorded it. :)

[•ELIDA-bs-girl•]

i havent seen it fully but .. what i think is that she has suffered a lot .... but she was also trying to make us think she's changed.
i'm not totally sure if she has changed...

[totodyal]

i havent seen it fully but .. what i think is that she has suffered a lot .... but she was also trying to make us think she's changed.
i'm not totally sure if she has changed...

I somewhat agree. The public has painted this comeback return as a return to her mental health, but Britney seems to look at it as a comeback to please the world. She admits that a lot of things were out of control/crazy/stupid but I don't think she ever thought there was something wrong with her.
When you say 'changed' what do you mean? Changed from wanting to go out and party or changed from her mental condition?

I think she always knew that she could go back to smiling and putting on a show,I just don't think she wanted to yet. She wanted to be reckless but it was causing too many problems because shes a celebrity.

[neonbaroque]

I watched it last night and I have to say I feel pretty bad about brit now.. I know nearly everything's faked in music industry and I'm sure there're parts in the documentary which are 'posed' but overall you get a very very personal view of britney spears..
This is not a normal 'promotional video' but a raw drama diary of someone who is a victim (yes, I think brit is one) of nowadays media society.

[•ELIDA-bs-girl•]

When you say 'changed' what do you mean? Changed from wanting to go out and party or changed from her mental condition?


well going out and partying is not a bad thing. plus, in and interview she said she doesnt want to go out that much now. but she prefers to stay at home and read any book or watch tv.(anyway, i don't fully believe it).

i referred to her mental health.
just like you said, she admits those things were stupid, but she would do them again, cuz now she's got the immunity to face everything...and it won't make impression to her.

I watched it last night and I have to say I feel pretty bad about brit now..
well...it was obvious, that one of her doc's aim was to MAKE US FEEL BAD ABOUT HER. otherwise what's the point in making a doc??? of course she would cry, and make us feel mercy.
i havent seen the doc. fully yet, i've seen parts of it, but i can imagine she has cried, she has acted like she regrets, like she's grown up and stuff.
i think this is just part of the game(of course with some truth in it)
that's what i really think.

[jade.]

I loved it, so sad though to know she thinks of her life like that. :(

[neonbaroque]

well...it was obvious, that one of her doc's aim was to MAKE US FEEL BAD ABOUT HER. otherwise what's the point in making a doc??? of course she would cry, and make us feel mercy.
i havent seen the doc. fully yet, i've seen parts of it, but i can imagine she has cried, she has acted like she regrets, like she's grown up and stuff.
i think this is just part of the game(of course with some truth in it)
that's what i really think.
A documentary doesn't need to be about feeling 'bad' or whatever. A doc can be positive, neutral or negative.
I think it would have been even better for promotional uses to create it in a more positive way.

And don't talk about things you haven't fully seen yet because if you'd have seen it you'd know that this doc has some parts in it where brit regrets, yes, but the majority of it shows britney as a scared, vulnarable and not confident person.

I still don't really think it was a good idea to release this really sad doc in order to push an album which is supposed to be a great comeback and which wants to prove us that brit has changed because I don't really see britney feels better... She tries to hide it IMO.

[©!nful]

A documentary doesn't need to be about feeling 'bad' or whatever. A doc can be positive, neutral or negative.
I think it would have been even better for promotional uses to create it in a more positive way.


Exactly. If they were really just using it as a tool to sell albums then they would have edited it to make her seem happy, confident, stable, with more dancing/recording. This was a brutal look at her life and I'm so glad she did it. A lot of people expected her to sugarcoat everything and she didn't at all. I feel a lot closer to her as a person after watching it and it's a lot easier to understand where she's coming from.

[XtinaLegend]

I agree I see her in a whole new light and can feel relateable to her and really respect her. I feel bad for all the publicity she gets and cant really escape it..it was depressing to watch at some points

but on a different note, has anyone gotten hidden fantasy yet? i put it on my xmas list im sure it smells awesome!

[Sasha Reigne]

I still have a little bit of curius left and I just got Fantasy for my birthday. I dont know about this new fantasy but I know I will be getting Midnight Fantasy next. I will not move on until I get it.
THe documentary was sad and also good, I liked seeing her interaction with her dad and Brett especially. I like Brett so much more now. I do think she is still somewhat sick but a person doesnt get over what she had in short amount of time. Maybe in her mind she was never sick but we really dont know because she didnt talk about being referred to as bi-polar and the January incident with Jayden and being put in the hospital twice. She did mention that she has doctors, I think what she needs to figure out is how to deal with the stress she has in a positive way. Yes when most people are upset they leave the houe and go for a walk or drive, unfortunately for Britney if she does that she will be referred to as crazy or wanting attention.
I am happy that she did a cd and is back to looking great and has people talking about her music and not her antics, but I honestly am afraid for her if she tours.

[©!nful]

At first I couldn't understand why they'd arrange a tour when she's still not 100% stable, but I get it now. They're giving her long-term goals to work towards.

As Larry said, she's in a better place now than she was 6 months ago and she'll be in an even better place 4 months from now when it's time to go on the road. I hope so anyway.

[Mellybeans0919]

I thought the documentary was very well done. It was a candid interview/behind the scenes look at her life. She just wanted to get the truth out there, as she said. I felt sad for her, she is a victim of the media completely. I don't know how she handles her life. I think she is happy with making music and performing but not with interviews and all that goes with it. And I don't blame her either. I don't think she is 100% and I doubt she will be for a while, it has been less then a year since she was in the ambulance. I just wish her the best in life and hope it is not too soon or too much at once for her and she can handle her 'comeback'.

[Samanthasrai]

I appreciated some of the more raw moments in the doc, and some parts were certainly sad, but I still think there's so much more to the picture. Brit seemed to constantly pass off a lot of what happened to her as 'just a crazy time' or kind of side-step the question. Understandable if she is just trying to protect herself, but there was also a little bit of like she doesn't really accept that she had/has a problem, to her it was more of a 'brain fart' even though her situation seemed to me to be more serious than that.

[•ELIDA-bs-girl•]

A documentary doesn't need to be about feeling 'bad' or whatever. A doc can be positive, neutral or negative.
.
i wasnt talking about docs in general. i was talking about HER doc's aim.
IN THIS CASE, that's what the doc. was supposed to be and i was expecting something like that.
because she feels to make people think different about her now (wether she's changed for real or not).
and by making ppl. feel different about her, she made a "Sad" doc. it's one of the ways to achieve what she had in mind.
and she made it! a lot of ppl. were touched by it...

though i love her songs, and i have all her albums and i still thinks she's one of the great singers(not that she's got the voice, but she has great songs)
im not sure she's the best person she could be, anyway.

[©!nful]

i wasnt talking about docs in general. i was talking about HER doc's aim.
IN THIS CASE, that's what the doc. was supposed to be and i was expecting something like that.
because she feels to make people think different about her now (wether she's changed for real or not).
and by making ppl. feel different about her, she made a "Sad" doc. it's one of the ways to achieve what she had in mind.
and she made it! a lot of ppl. were touched by it...

though i love her songs, and i have all her albums and i still thinks she's one of the great singers(not that she's got the voice, but she has great songs)
im not sure she's the best person she could be, anyway.

Have you even watched the documentary in full yet or are you just assuming a load of stuff?

[•ELIDA-bs-girl•]

Have you even watched the documentary in full yet or are you just assuming a load of stuff?

i watched it 2 and a half hours ago.
and my opinion hasn't changed.
but before watching it fully today, i had watched some caps from it, for the most important issues she talked about, there.

[©!nful]

i watched it 2 and a half hours ago.
and my opinion hasn't changed.
but before watching it fully today, i had watched some caps from it, for the most important issues she talked about, there.

Then I'm not sure where you're coming from because she explicitly says that she doesn't like being called a victim and she's not the sort of person to moan about her life and be negative all the time. You make it sound like she's sitting there crying her eyes out for the whole 60 minutes begging for people's sympathy, when really she's just talking about her feelings.

The media has created a lot of misconceptions about her as a person and this documentary was her way of showing her side of the story. She's still recovering from everything that's happened, and the fact that she's able to be honest about that instead of pretending like nothing ever happened is a good thing.

[totodyal]

i wasnt talking about docs in general. i was talking about HER doc's aim.
IN THIS CASE, that's what the doc. was supposed to be and i was expecting something like that.
because she feels to make people think different about her now (wether she's changed for real or not).
and by making ppl. feel different about her, she made a "Sad" doc. it's one of the ways to achieve what she had in mind.
and she made it! a lot of ppl. were touched by it...

though i love her songs, and i have all her albums and i still thinks she's one of the great singers(not that she's got the voice, but she has great songs)
im not sure she's the best person she could be, anyway.

Of course the documentary was edited to have a "light a the end of the tunnel" sad theme, but I don't think Britney ,herself, reaching for that during the recordings. And that is why you are able to see for yourself that she is clearly not "the best person she could be" because she was genuine enough for people to see whats really going on; despite the themed editing. Its actually a good thing to me. :D Even though I wish that she will become a better person, I'm glad to see that she's real with herself and had the courage to show herself to the world.

I love her music and I love her for being herself; even if I don't like the things she does.

[Toy Soldier]

If her team was smart they would'ave edited the doc to make her seem happy and confident about everything, more rehearsals/recording time and all that and not make any of her fans feel the need to worry because she's "back" and "ready".

The fact that she spoke about how unhappy her situation at home is and everything showed that she ISN'T completely stable or happy yet and alot of her fans are still worried.

Bottom line is, Britney will get sympathy either way, without the documentary or not because the world already had a vague idea of the mindset she was in and they have been feeling sorry for her without her doing for awhile. The fact that she actually opens up and talks about it just solidifies the obvious.

She has said things and gone against them in the past (the message to her fans early last year) but I genuinely think last year was just a really crap year for her, she was still dealing with the breakup and not facing it that there was no way she was going to have understanding and clarity about everything that quickly. Now that she has time to reflect on all her experiences from the last year, the bad people, she knows more of what not to do. I don't think she's ready to be on her own yet though...

[•ELIDA-bs-girl•]

like being called a victim and she's not the sort of person to moan about her life and be negative all the time.

:zzz:
whether she likes it or not, whether u like it or not, whether I like it or not, she's a victim of her fame!
Really famous people, fall into the trap of their fame, and for all the respect i've got for her, she's one them.
And this is not totally media's fault, it is hers as well.
now ... let's be honest....
seriously... :rolleyes:

I love her music and I love her for being herself; even if I don't like the things she does.
i could agree on this one :cool:

[©!nful]

:zzz:
whether she likes it or not, whether u like it or not, whether I like it or not, she's a victim of her fame!
Really famous people, fall into the trap of their fame, and for all the respect i've got for her, she's one them.
And this is not totally media's fault, it is hers as well.
now ... let's be honest....
seriously... :rolleyes:

You know, I really can't be bothered to argue this with you. :laugh: I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make now. But I can tell it's not worth the effort.

[Bunsen]

The public has painted this comeback return as a return to her mental health, but Britney seems to look at it as a comeback to please the world. She admits that a lot of things were out of control/crazy/stupid but I don't think she ever thought there was something wrong with her.
I agree.

I thought it was a bit contradicting how first she said there's no passion and it's so boring, and then in the end says she still loves it all...

I still wonder what really was wrong with her, what her diagnosis was, if there is any. People shave their heads all the time? Yeah, and ignore personal hygiene, attack cars with umbrellas, and.... It's none of our business really, but she didn't come clean and probably never will. And she could still go to Louisiana or wherever to escape the paps, a lot of big celebs have places far away from Hollywood.

When they released Blackout during her crazy period, I thought it was wrong. This documentary didn't convince me that releasing a new album now and "making her" promote it is any more right.

P.S. OMG Madonna's face. :eek:

[Mellybeans0919]

I agree with ELIDA in the fact that the media certainly has painted Britney a certain way, but she also hasn't always been shy about the attention either, we have to be realistic.

As I said already, I think Britney is ready to do what she loves, make music and perform, but not for what comes with it - the interviews, the scrutiny, etc. I am honestly curious to see how she handles everything in the end, I hope that she is okay because she still seems very fragile.

[•ELIDA-bs-girl•]

..

I still wonder what really was wrong with her, what her diagnosis was,:

i wonder the same......

[Toy Soldier]

You know, I really can't be bothered to argue this with you. :laugh: I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make now. But I can tell it's not worth the effort.
I'm trying to figure out her/his point too lmao! :noway:

I will just say that although Britney could have done some thing in her life differently to no get the amount of press and media attention she did, how was she supposed to know it was going to get this bad? She signed up to be a singer, not to have her public life wide open and don't bother throwing around the "she knew what came with that" because NO-ONE knows the extent it goes to. Madonna's life was constantly watched by the media, I dont think any singer before Britney had this much criticism over her life, so how was she suppose to know?

The way her team controlled her from day one, the amount of pressure from fans to be a certain way, the media always watching...in some ways I don't disagree with her acting out the way she did.

[Toy Soldier]

I don't think she had a mental problem...probably post-traumatic stress and depression but it probably has more to do with the fact that everything was always done for her so when she ditched everybody and had to live her life on her own she didn't know what to do because she's never had to do things on her own before.

[•ELIDA-bs-girl•]

I'm trying to figure out her/his point too lmao! :noway:
you just don't want to accept what i said. :cool:

lmao :D
i'm totally cool with it!

[•ELIDA-bs-girl•]

I don't think she had a mental problem...
though a lot of ppl. think she had some mental health when she shaved her head, like that.
even a us radio show was talking about this , earlier this week...and they were like "we don't think she's ok, that's not normal..she has to go the doctor"...

well....facts talk themselves.

[Sasha Reigne]

I think she had and still has a mental problem. I think it started around the time of her first marriage in Vegas then got worst with an influence of post partum depression after she had Jayden. But whether she thinks she had or has one is another story. In the documentary she did mention she had doctors.