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Richard Tafoya
Apr 20th, 2009, 07:42 PM
Politico:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21487.html

Former Vice President Cheney last month formally asked the Central Intelligence Agency to de-classify top secret documents he believes show harsh interrogation techniques such as waterboarding helped prevent terrorist attacks against U.S. targets, according to a source familiar with the effort.

Cheney Monday night disclosed the request but did not point out it was made before President Barack Obama unsealed the top-secret “torture memos.”

Cheney's decision sets up an potentially dramatic showdown between the president who believes the techniques amounted to unwise and immoral torture and the former vice president who believes the interrogations saved lives.

Cheney, starting with an interview with POLITICO two months ago, has been on a campaign to warn Obama is making the country more vulnerable to attack by pulling back on Bush's policies. Now, the vice president wants to make public documents he argues will prove the efficacy of tactics critics call torture.

Top White House officials described the decision to release the torture memos Thursday as among the toughest of Obama's young presidency. There was a vigorous debate internally about which documents to release and how much detail to redact. In the end, Obama himself was described as carefully editing his final statement to make sure he hit just the right note.

DoubleEdgeSword
Apr 21st, 2009, 05:23 AM
Am I missing something? Didn't Cheney object to Pres. Obama releasing the memos on the grounds that they would threaten national security? And now Cheney wants memos released which show exactly what information was obtained. How does this not threaten national security?

Richard Tafoya
Apr 21st, 2009, 09:19 AM
When you're a Republican, it's party first, country second. Unless you're in an election cycle. Then it's personal ambition first, party second, country third.

WannaBreatheYou
Apr 21st, 2009, 10:06 AM
The thing is, some of the public is eating this stuff up. Honestly. Yesterday, on the train, I was telling one person about a book I'm reading and the first 100 pages or so is about 9/11 and one woman getting out of the North Tower after it had been hit by the plane. I was telling her about how it sent shivers down my back, the imagery was intense.

Another woman tells us, "Everyone's forgotten about 9/11. They proved it by electing HIM into office. He's no better than Osama bin Laden. He's going to get us all killed."

db44
Apr 22nd, 2009, 09:01 AM
What I loved about the reaction to the release of the memos is Bush's former CIA leader saying how Obama compromised national security because it shows the extreme edge the country would go to.

Waterboarding one person 88 times is an extreme? Numbers like that suggest routine, not an extreme.