April 24, 2009 New Hampshire Panel: Kill Gay Marriage and Trans Rights Bills Click

[Liviagray]

April 24, 2009

New Hampshire Panel: Kill Gay Marriage and Trans Rights Bills

By Julie Bolcer

The New Hampshire state senate judiciary committee recommended on Thursday that the full senate reject bills that would legalize same-sex civil marriage and expand antidiscrimination protections for transgender individuals.

While the votes do not bind the full senate, they make it unlikely that either bill will be revived on the floor next week, reports the Union Leader.
The committee voted 3-2 to reject the marriage-equality bill, with chair Deborah Reynolds, a Democrat, joining two Republicans in opposing the measure. Reynolds said that she did not believe New Hampshire was ready for same-sex marriage, according to the Associated Press. Last month the bill passed the house by a vote of 186-179.

The committee voted 5-0 to recommend that the full senate kill the transgender rights bill. The bill would add the term "gender identity or expression" to state antidiscrimination and hate-crimes laws. Opponents argued that the bill would open public restrooms to use by either sex. The bill passed the house last month by a vote of 188-187.

On Tuesday, former governor and current state Republican Party chairman John Sununu referred to both bills as "garbage."

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So everyone who voted for Democrats, thinking they would change law about the same-sex marriage, just fooled themselves. Democrats is not much different from Republicans, they are all the same. The gay and lesbian rights just "garbage" to them. Nice job.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

Uhm, that was a Republican who referred to the bills as "garbage."

[LesterX]

Details, details DES. ;)

[DoubleEdgeSword]

I know, I know. I'm just picky like that.

[Liviagray]

Uhm, that was a Republican who referred to the bills as "garbage."

Who cares who referred, most impotent who voted bills out. Democrats voted both bills out and this is what most disgusting. People who won because of bunch of lies did nothing, and now people who trusted them would pay for it. Maybe Republican said it, but Democrats voted it out. Their actions talks louder than words. And you can't just called it "mistake" or "misunderstanding". By the way for me there are no difference between Republicans and Democrats. Both parties lied before they were voted and both failed not once to fulfil their fake promises.

[DoubleEdgeSword]

We'll see what happens if and when these bills come before the full Senate. Both bills passed the House. The Committee's vote is non-binding on the Senate.

By the way, "impotent?" lol

[Richard Tafoya]

And there's this concept of representative government. If someone is a Democrat and represents a district that leans conservative, their obligation as an elected official is to vote at the issue level as a representative of their constituency.

Being in a party is not a straight-jacket. Indeed, the Democratic party has regularly not acted in lock-step, but has regularly banded together around broad principles while serving their local priorities, and has seen its share of intra-party debates in that context over the years. Some of it's been constructive toward the national debate. Some not.

The Republican party over the past eight years has been more of an example of carbon-copy politics and lock-step voting, and it got us a whole host of Bush-Cheney headaches that we're trying to work our way out of today.

[pinky]

What's the status of gay marriage in Israel, Livia?

[Liviagray]

What's the status of gay marriage in Israel, Livia?


In Israel, a gay and lesbians have equal rights with heterosexual couples. They can inherit after their husbands or wife's, they can go on maternity leave or be home if kids get sick (man and women can go on maternity leave and get paid for it). They sign civil union with attorney, but it equal to civil marriage. Israel is a religious country and we don't have a civil marriage even for some heterosexual couples. And if one of heterosexual partner is not Jewish, they need to go through Giur or go and get married in Cyprus. So Israel gay and lesbian couples have more rights than some heterosexual couples. We have the almost the same problem in our government to pass a bill about civil marriage for every couple religious or not, 100% Jewish or 50% or not Jewish at all (In Israel just people who have Jewish mother can be 100% Jewish and, others who didn't have Jewish mother can't get religious marriage). Orthodox religious didn't let the bill pass. Before it happened marriage and funerals goes under religious law.