Here's my theory...

[blitze1471]

I was thinking about this last night after loitering around LD for a little while.. I just get too lazy to post much of anything these days, just looking for stuff to read but..

Here's what I think the problem is...sorry if this gets long also.

First of all, I HATE the idea of "instrumental" albums. Unless you're a "classical" composer or jazz singer, an instrumental record does NOTHING to furthur your career. No one wants to waste 15-17 bucks buying a record (or waste time downloading it ::ahem: that just has music on it when the artist always releases music with lyrics. Instrumental albums are just ways of making your fans feel gipped out of something with substance (especally in Aaron's case since we haven't gotten anything in years).

Anyway, that may not have even been neccessary to say since the feedback heard around the world on here is all negative towards an "instrumental" record but I needed an introduction.

Here's what I found interesting last night, we haven't heard new music from Aaron since maybe the early 2000's? I'm taking an offical album with an offical tour and promotion, etc. Basically, "Another Earthquake" is the last album that we heard all new music from the kid. His "Greatest Hits" album was just what, 3 or 4 new songs? Not worth it as an album when you're releasing a "Greatest Hits" album at what, 15?

Since then, there's been this long endless gap of no music and a lot of bursted bubbles. I feel like he's having a serious identity crisis. And I'll tell you why.

The last album we ever heard from him featured him doing his young-boy teenage mini-raps and a couple ballads here and there. Ok, that may sound bad or watered down, whatever, but we all know that's exactly what it was. He really wasn't all that main stream. Now, some people may disagree with that, but I know in my hometown, whenever I knew his album was coming out, I'd go to the store and ask for it on opening day, and of course they'd look at me like they had no idea what I was talking about. And when they took me to the small, bookstore artist divider thing, there'd be maybe 2 or 3 copies of the BRAND NEW CD on opening day in his section. Although, he did have a section... That was decent news at least. For the most part, he had a fan base but it could have definently been a lot broader. Besides one song ("Aaron's Party") making it to one of the volumes NOW THATS WHAT I CALL MUSIC, he was under the radar with a lot of people except with the ones who knew where to go/look to find info, etc. For me it was Aaronnews.com and sometimes his website (which has never been dependable or up to date.)

So, the years went by, and here we are now. He wants an "instrumental record." After about 5 or 6 years, all he's got is an instrumental album? Here's more of where I believe he's having a SERIOUS identity crisis. I think he's probably scared as hell to release some real MUSIC after all these years because he hasn't developed and reinvented himself over the years AT ALL in front of his fans. As you develop as an artist, fans need to see that growth and its usually better to show that through yearly albums than an album and five years later maybe another one.

Let's look at Britney Spears, I think she's a prime example. She's not the most vocally talented person in the world but you always know that no matter what kind of crap she is going through, she comes out with an album every 1-2 years (or at least COMMUNICATED EFFECTIVELY through her website if nothing else). And not only did you KNOW she was going to come out with an album, you also knew that as soon as her single hit the radio, it'd be in your head for the next 2 months following. Everyone remembers her catholic school girl uniform, pink fuzzy pencil days and we all know where she is now. She developed in front of her fans instead of hiding it. I'm not saying she needs to expose everything, but she's smart enough to realize that fans aren't going to stick around if they aren't seeing/hearing new material as frequently as possible.

So, my theory is that Aaron truly has NO IDEA what he's doing anymore with his career. He doesn't know how to make his "comeback" but obviously he knows how to NOT make it successful (Tila, etc). He may be wondering, "Hmm should I rap again? Should I do all ballads? Should I do dance music?" I'm sure he would love to make a comeback that made him more famous than when he left.

It blows my mind that he has no other ideas for an album than an intstrumental. There's no way in hecgth I want him to rap again BUT he's a 20 year old that has gone through a crapload, and he can't think of what to WRITE about? Come on. It's as clear as day. There's so much he can do; the possibilities are endless. It's just boiling down to being extremely conflicted and being recklessly lazy.

[HollyBird]

thanks for posting.. I did enjoy reading it..

[suzannema2005]

Very interesting post, I enjoyed reading it.

Aaron isnt going to make a dollar with an instrumental album, Justin Timberlake wouldnt be able to either.
no one listens to instrumental b-sides of singles, only if its dance music that is different.

[HollyBird]

*reps you* suzannema2005.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I'm gonna say that you're semi close to the reality of the situation. I don't know everything, but I think with your theory plus what I do know of what's going on, it's all making sense. I'd also like to add that there is some sort of fear behind him releasing music. I believe this instrumental thing is a mix of him being too scared to try his own music and influence of these new people in his life. I think he badly wants back into the music business. It's obvious with his continuous attempts of music writing that the creativity is there, but he lacks the extra drive to go further. I think he has a lot of fear in his life and the big "F" (failure) would be the biggest one of all. When a person believes so heavily that they'll fall flat on their face, they do go through these identity crisis phases. I know I've been through them and most of the world has too. The important thing right now is that he does receive the help he can get and then hopefully he can take off into the career direction and should and wants to go to. Does this make any sense or am I just babbling?

[HollyBird]

makes complete sense to me, it is such a combination of so many different things..

[suzannema2005]

*reps you* suzannema2005.

Thanks! :)



In reply to PopStarDancer: i agree maybe he is fearful, and maybe he is lacking some confidence too.
he definitley doesnt want any messers in his life, he need real friends.

he defo has real fans her on LD anyway!...real friends tell the truth, i guess in a weird way this is what we are doing on LD as fans

[HollyBird]

*reps you again*

exactly!!!

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Thanks! :)



In reply to PopStarDancer: i agree maybe he is fearful, and maybe he is lacking some confidence too.
he definitley doesnt want any messers in his life, he need real friends.

he defo has real fans her on LD anyway!...real friends tell the truth, i guess in a weird way this is what we are doing on LD as fans

You've got it, honey! *high five* That is their reason behind ALL of this. People thought they were being cynical and jerkish. Most definitely not! They want us to know what's going on. Despite of what Aaron's going through right now, he does love his fans. He knows how important we are. He's just gotten a little off track. If he could see that fans are concerned it would be a slap in the face, seriously. That was the reason for their brutal honesty and I think they all deserve a pat in the back for that. They're good people in my book.

[suzannema2005]

*reps you again*

exactly!!!

haha thanks again! :D


re: PopStarDancer: high five back at you! :) yeah I agree there are lots of great people on this board.
you included i see you have the best intentions for people.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

haha thanks again! :D


re: PopStarDancer: high five back at you! :) yeah I agree there are lots of great people on this board.
you included i see you have the best intentions for people.


Aw! Well, thank you. I do my best to be kind to everyone. :)

[HollyBird]

aww we love ya rach!!

[b_roksta2000]

So this is the first time I've even looked at this board for about a year....I added him to my twitter yesterday. Holy **** his posts are crazy. Its kind of disturbing to see whats happening to him.... Whilst I was never a huge fan, I liked him and remember how he used to be. Its sad. Anyways, I know there's rumours floating round the kid's on drugs, do you guys seriously think there's any truth in it?

[BSBSavedMyLife]

So this is the first time I've even looked at this board for about a year....I added him to my twitter yesterday. Holy **** his posts are crazy. Its kind of disturbing to see whats happening to him.... Whilst I was never a huge fan, I liked him and remember how he used to be. Its sad. Anyways, I know there's rumours floating round the kid's on drugs, do you guys seriously think there's any truth in it?


It's no rumor, I'm afraid. :( However, things might change soon, we hope. One day at a time.

[HollyBird]

hey ya'll...

[blitze1471]

It just is really a shame that he isn't more into taking risks. He took plenty of risks when he was a kid (or when someone RESPONSIBLE) was managing his career regardless if it was Jane. This makes me wonder if that whole "stealing money" situation was extremely blown out of proportion but with her, he got his big stadiums and arenas and he was pretty out and about touring around, etc.

Above what I said about taking risks, that's the whole point in being an entertainer. You take risks to grow and for the learning experience. My main concern is that he really just doesn't care all that much about developing in a positive direction. The only way this "if" change will happen is if someone with good experience and insight comes along and literally/physically gives Aaron a kick in the *** and stays along for the ride and hopefully believes in him enough to encourage him to WRITE music and release a real "comeback" record.

At this point, this is the best time to start something completely different. He's had so many years to sit around and be out of the public eye (for positive reasons) now he should sit his butt down, write some music, and release a REAL record. He'd be considered a "new artist," which would be a hecght of a lot better than a "washed up one at 20."

Aaron, I hope you can still read, if so, READ THIS and DOO IT!!! lol

[bunnycat1981]

It just is really a shame that he isn't more into taking risks. He took plenty of risks when he was a kid (or when someone RESPONSIBLE) was managing his career regardless if it was Jane. This makes me wonder if that whole "stealing money" situation was extremely blown out of proportion but with her, he got his big stadiums and arenas and he was pretty out and about touring around, etc.

Above what I said about taking risks, that's the whole point in being an entertainer. You take risks to grow and for the learning experience. My main concern is that he really just doesn't care all that much about developing in a positive direction. The only way this "if" change will happen is if someone with good experience and insight comes along and literally/physically gives Aaron a kick in the *** and stays along for the ride and hopefully believes in him enough to encourage him to WRITE music and release a real "comeback" record.

At this point, this is the best time to start something completely different. He's had so many years to sit around and be out of the public eye (for positive reasons) now he should sit his butt down, write some music, and release a REAL record. He'd be considered a "new artist," which would be a hecght of a lot better than a "washed up one at 20."

Aaron, I hope you can still read, if so, READ THIS and DOO IT!!! lol

sorry but LOL at the last line....

[Dnicki07]

sorry but LOL at the last line....

Haha. HEY! I was just gonna say that! lol

[HollyBird]

hahahaha...

[bunnycat1981]

Haha. HEY! I was just gonna say that! lol

haha i bet you..

[HollyBird]

Lol

[suzannema2005]

He said that he cut ties with devon on twitter or myspace.
which is good because I think he was defo using Aaron to promote his clothing line and every youtube video Devon put out (them stupid 22secs videos) he did tag aaron in every single one even though aaron was only in a quarter of them (because the views for the vids doubled when aaron was tagged in them) ....the people he surrounds himself with need to change ....tila....devon ...deniro

maybe he should go back and chill in Florida for a while get away from the mad industry that is LA!

[BSBSavedMyLife]

He said that he cut ties with devon on twitter or myspace.
which is good because I think he was defo using Aaron to promote his clothing line and every youtube video Devon put out (them stupid 22secs videos) he did tag aaron in every single one even though aaron was only in a quarter of them (because the views for the vids doubled when aaron was tagged in them) ....the people he surrounds himself with need to change ....tila....devon ...deniro

maybe he should go back and chill in Florida for a while get away from the mad industry that is LA!

I do agree that Aaron should get out of L.A. and do some serious writing along with getting any kind of help he needs. However, once again, it's all up to him.

[lovethacarters]

He said that he cut ties with devon on twitter or myspace.
which is good because I think he was defo using Aaron to promote his clothing line and every youtube video Devon put out (them stupid 22secs videos) he did tag aaron in every single one even though aaron was only in a quarter of them (because the views for the vids doubled when aaron was tagged in them) ....the people he surrounds himself with need to change ....tila....devon ...deniro

maybe he should go back and chill in Florida for a while get away from the mad industry that is LA!

i agree! the last time he went to florida was for all the wrong reasons *coughsage* he needs to go for himself not for others.

[Pnutz]

He said that he cut ties with devon on twitter or myspace.
which is good because I think he was defo using Aaron to promote his clothing line and every youtube video Devon put out (them stupid 22secs videos) he did tag aaron in every single one even though aaron was only in a quarter of them (because the views for the vids doubled when aaron was tagged in them) ....the people he surrounds himself with need to change ....tila....devon ...deniro

maybe he should go back and chill in Florida for a while get away from the mad industry that is LA!

Hi Suze - I'd Agree with the suggestion about the 'surroundings' but, would have to disagree about the thoughts on Devon - for numerous reasons.

Ar's 'Space' acct was actually Devon doing it since someone else wasn't bothering to keep up with it. So, at least he kept the ball rolling. (and, was clearly marked etc as 'Maintained by Devon")

Far as the Video's -well, they were together and, sharing with people a little of something is far better than not sharing at all. In addition, most were done while on Devon's trips 'working' etc. ie. Wilmington SC and, Oakland Ca.

Far as Devon 'promoting' his work? like?? yeah... That is what he does for a living and works very hard at establishing his design line and selling it. (which has suffered lately due to spending time trying to help others)

Far as the 'Cutting ties' - possibly, (cough) That is/was due to Devon taking the Time, Effort and Personal Involvement into Trying to Help a 'Friend' from making some bad decisions or, getting mis-led into becoming involved with some bad decisions- and finally got to that point of banging your head against the wall in total frustration trying to 'Talk/Help someone that won't listen' when they really Should.

(as others have tried pointing out. Someone is/was listening to the wrong people -and cutting ties and building walls with the people he SHOULD be listening too)

Less not be Dragging Devon into any category even remotely as low as the other mentioned names.. Devon is good people with a good heart and good bonds and has nothing but the best interest at heart.


just my feelings--other can disagree but, got my reasons for knowing the Difference of why something looks one way but, is actually totally different than what you see.

(If I needed a friend - I could only hope they could be as good as someone like Devon)

[BSBSavedMyLife]

i agree! the last time he went to florida was for all the wrong reasons *coughsage* he needs to go for himself not for others.

:roll: I'm soooo keeping my mouth shut on that one.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Forgive me for saying this, but Devon was the guy who made those shirts and stuff? The ones that were advertised on Aaron's page? I remember seeing them, but I had a lot going on in my personal life, so I sorta slacked in keeping up with him during that time.

[lovethacarters]

Forgive me for saying this, but Devon was the guy who made those shirts and stuff? The ones that were advertised on Aaron's page? I remember seeing them, but I had a lot going on in my personal life, so I sorta slacked in keeping up with him during that time.

yes thats him

[BSBSavedMyLife]

yes thats him

Oooh okay! LOL! Now I feel less dumb. :laugh: I remember seeing him say he cut ties with Devon and I'm like "Who's Devon?" LOL!

[suzannema2005]

i agree! the last time he went to florida was for all the wrong reasons *coughsage* he needs to go for himself not for others.

haha remeber her?!

as soon as aaron got back from norway last year he dumped her, he must of had time to think there.

somtimes when you are out of your surroundings it really can make a difference.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

haha remeber her?!

as soon as aaron got back from norway last year he dumped her, he must of had time to think there.

somtimes when you are out of your surroundings it really can make a difference.


I definitely remember her. I also remember one of her besties taking a stab at Nick. Next thing I know, her pictures were all over MySpace and she was adding random BSB fans to rub it in their faces that she was with Nick. :roll: OMG! Pure entertainment.

[suzannema2005]

Far as the 'Cutting ties' - possibly, (cough) That is/was due to Devon taking the Time, Effort and Personal Involvement into Trying to Help a 'Friend' from making some bad decisions or, getting mis-led into becoming involved with some bad decisions- and finally got to that point of banging your head against the wall in total frustration trying to 'Talk/Help someone that won't listen' when they really Should.

(as others have tried pointing out. Someone is/was listening to the wrong people -and cutting ties and building walls with the people he SHOULD be listening too)

Less not be Dragging Devon into any category even remotely as low as the other mentioned names.. Devon is good people with a good heart and good bonds and has nothing but the best interest at heart.


just my feelings--other can disagree but, got my reasons for knowing the Difference of why something looks one way but, is actually totally different than what you see.

(If I needed a friend - I could only hope they could be as good as someone like Devon)

cool maybe i did judge Devon unfairly.
i wonder why aaron isnt talking to him anymore then?

[suzannema2005]

I definitely remember her. I also remember one of her besties taking a stab at Nick. Next thing I know, her pictures were all over MySpace and she was adding random BSB fans to rub it in their faces that she was with Nick. :roll: OMG! Pure entertainment.

seriously?! :blueeek:

...talk about desperate measures :laugh:

and was she really with nick?

[lovethacarters]

haha remeber her?!

as soon as aaron got back from norway last year he dumped her, he must of had time to think there.

somtimes when you are out of your surroundings it really can make a difference.

send him back to norway to get away from tila and deniro!!! lol!!!

[lovethacarters]

I definitely remember her. I also remember one of her besties taking a stab at Nick. Next thing I know, her pictures were all over MySpace and she was adding random BSB fans to rub it in their faces that she was with Nick. :roll: OMG! Pure entertainment.

sage was rude. so im guessing all of her friends had 2 be 2. this line will forever be burned in my memory "i dont like people" she had that on her page. very rude.

[CamoBratDragon]

send him back to norway to get away from tila and deniro!!! lol!!!

Maybe not Norway, but somewhere far away from Tila and DeNiro and all those other d***chebags he's been surrounded by lately that have been influencing his decisions for the worse.

[lovethacarters]

Maybe not Norway, but somewhere far away from Tila and DeNiro and all those other d***chebags he's been surrounded by lately that have been influencing his decisions for the worse.

he should take a trip to somewhere quiet. someplace no one would think he'd be. maybe go see his grandparents again?

[CamoBratDragon]

he should take a trip to somewhere quiet. someplace no one would think he'd be. maybe go see his grandparents again?

XD I live in CT, he can come see me. NOTHING happens here, LOL.

But seriously. Wasn't he gonna move to Nashville with Nick? I think they'd both do well there -- it's nothing like L.A., and they wouldn't have to worry about any influences that might be worrisome for them in FL, either...

Wherever he decides to go, it needs to be somewhere that he can take the time to think about himself and what he truly wants, let alone who in his life really cares about him and wants to see him happy and healthy.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

seriously?! :blueeek:

...talk about desperate measures :laugh:

and was she really with nick?

yeah, she had a crapload of pics with him. I think she was just a fling though. It didn't last long and not too long after she started adding fans, he met Lauren. :roll:

[lovethacarters]

XD I live in CT, he can come see me. NOTHING happens here, LOL.

But seriously. Wasn't he gonna move to Nashville with Nick? I think they'd both do well there -- it's nothing like L.A., and they wouldn't have to worry about any influences that might be worrisome for them in FL, either...

Wherever he decides to go, it needs to be somewhere that he can take the time to think about himself and what he truly wants, let alone who in his life really cares about him and wants to see him happy and healthy.

yeah but nicks been in la recording and stuff but i think he still has a house there. aaron should really go spend some time there even if nick is in la. im sure nick wouldnt mind.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Wasn't he gonna move to Nashville with Nick? I think they'd both do well there -- it's nothing like L.A., and they wouldn't have to worry about any influences that might be worrisome for them in FL, either...

Wherever he decides to go, it needs to be somewhere that he can take the time to think about himself and what he truly wants, let alone who in his life really cares about him and wants to see him happy and healthy.

He did move in with Nick in Nashville. They were living there right after the second North American tour ended. He came back to L.A. when Nick came back to record for the new album and stayed since then. I wish he'd get away from L.A. but I think it's probably a mix of he's too confused to leave and having obligations that are making him stay.

[CamoBratDragon]

yeah but nicks been in la recording and stuff but i think he still has a house there. aaron should really go spend some time there even if nick is in la. im sure nick wouldnt mind.

I don't know about Nick not minding, but I don't care if he gets 1 mile, 10 miles, 1,000 miles away from those so-called "friends" of his, as long as he gets away from them and stays away from them.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

sage was rude. so im guessing all of her friends had 2 be 2. this line will forever be burned in my memory "i dont like people" she had that on her page. very rude.

I never was crazy about Sage. She seemed like she was using Aaron go become a singer/model. Her voice wasn't anything special.

[CamoBratDragon]

He did move in with Nick in Nashville. They were living there right after the second North American tour ended. He came back to L.A. when Nick came back to record for the new album and stayed since then. I wish he'd get away from L.A. but I think it's probably a mix of he's too confused to leave and having obligations that are making him stay.

Then maybe going back to Nashville for a while now would be a good idea. He could be by himself for a while and have time to figure out how to get himself out of the situation he's in without anyone trying to "advise" him on what to do. I mean, positive influences are great and all, but sometimes a person just needs to be by themselves to decide what they really want(without anyone at all telling them what they think), and then they can go from there. :)

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Then maybe going back to Nashville for a while now would be a good idea. He could be by himself for a while and have time to figure out how to get himself out of the situation he's in without anyone trying to "advise" him on what to do. I mean, positive influences are great and all, but sometimes a person just needs to be by themselves to decide what they really want(without anyone at all telling them what they think), and then they can go from there. :)

I agree with you, but like I said, I think there might be some obligations that are keeping him there. I also know that him and Nick hadn't been getting along very well lately. They're obviously speaking now, but no one knows if that means they've completely patched things up. This is all based on observation, but I just think there's something much bigger holding him back there than what meets the eye. Probably something on the inside that we wouldn't know unless we were in his circle.

[CamoBratDragon]

I agree with you, but like I said, I think there might be some obligations that are keeping him there. I also know that him and Nick hadn't been getting along very well lately. They're obviously speaking now, but no one knows if that means they've completely patched things up. This is all based on observation, but I just think there's something much bigger holding him back there than what meets the eye. Probably something on the inside that we wouldn't know unless we were in his circle.

Yeah, I agree. I just hope he can get out of those obligaions(granted they're connected to the people he needs to get away from). And that he and Nick really are on the mend and stay that way.

Edit: Oh, and dare I ask who Lauren is? lol I'm assuming not much better than Sage since they were mentioned in the same post... :)

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Yeah, I agree. I just hope he can get out of those obligaions(granted they're connected to the people he needs to get away from). And that he and Nick really are on the mend and stay that way.

Edit: Oh, and dare I ask who Lauren is? lol I'm assuming not much better than Sage since they were mentioned in the same post... :)


Lauren is Nick's gf. I was talking about how a friend of Sage's had a short fling with Nick before he met Lauren. Sorry, didn't mean to confuse ya.

[CamoBratDragon]

Lauren is Nick's gf. I was talking about how a friend of Sage's had a short fling with Nick before he met Lauren. Sorry, didn't mean to confuse ya.

OHHHH, lmao. It's alright, I just overlooked that you guys were talking about Sage claiming she was with Nick -- I only remembered her trying to hang all over Aaron.

That, and I had no idea Nick's girlfriend's name was Lauren. lol.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

OHHHH, lmao. It's alright, I just overlooked that you guys were talking about Sage claiming she was with Nick -- I only remembered her trying to hang all over Aaron.

That, and I had no idea Nick's girlfriend's name was Lauren. lol.


LOL! I wouldn't know this stuff if it weren't for me having Nick obsessed friends. :laugh:

[CamoBratDragon]

LOL! I wouldn't know this stuff if it weren't for me having Nick obsessed friends. :laugh:

I knew he had a gf, just didn't know much else lol. :)

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I knew he had a gf, just didn't know much else lol. :)

Sometimes I wish I didn't know much else. :laugh:

[CamoBratDragon]

Sometimes I wish I didn't know much else. :laugh:

I know that feeling, lol.

[blitze1471]

You know what I REALLY don't understand...

Who the hell is DeNiro, Devon, and so-and-so,etc.? I think it's absolutely HYSTERICAL that "nobodies" think they can make some one else a "somebody." One of them is what, a t-shirt artist? A T-shirt artist would be an extra plus if there was something that needed to be promoted (an album) but what does Aaron need to promote?

If anything, Aaron got THEIR names out. If Aaron had no connection with these people, they probably would not have frequently visited profiles, Twitter followers, etc.

He needs a real manager and a real team of people around him who know what the hell they're doing. You can't take a struggling artist and pair him up with another struggling artist and expect something magical to happen..lol. poof, you have a grammy!

[blitze1471]

And I didn't know Mr. Nick had a lady friend... good! He needs to get married..lol.

[AaronsShorty]

havent posted here in a few days cuz i've been crazy busy and just reading everything and catching up but i hope Aar is doing alright and gettin better.

[LargeandinchargE]

He did move in with Nick in Nashville. They were living there right after the second North American tour ended. He came back to L.A. when Nick came back to record for the new album and stayed since then. I wish he'd get away from L.A. but I think it's probably a mix of he's too confused to leave and having obligations that are making him stay.


Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

This is some very inaccurate information here. Although he has in fact visited Nick in Nashville on several occasions for relatively short periods of time, he never "moved" to Nashville or "lived there" for any considerable length of time. He lives in the L.A. area and always has.
I seriously doubt those two could live together for very long anyway...without a murder resulting. LOL

I also don't think a person needs to relocate to another part of the country to removed bad influences from their life. Although I'm sure it would accomplish that, it just isn't necessary. Aaron is REAL good at shutting people out of his life whenever he wants to. There's no doubt about that. He just has to decide to do it. No move required. :wink:

[BSBSavedMyLife]

And I didn't know Mr. Nick had a lady friend... good! He needs to get married..lol.

LOL! They've been together almost a year, I believe. Everyone seems to think she'll be the one, but only time can tell. He is Mr. Anti-Marriage after all. :laugh:

[AaronsShorty]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

This is some very inaccurate information here. Although he has in fact visited Nick in Nashville on several occasions for relatively short periods of time, he never "moved" to Nashville or "lived there" for any considerable length of time. He lives in the L.A. area and always has.
I seriously doubt those two could live together for very long anyway...without a murder resulting. LOL

I also don't think a person needs to relocate to another part of the country to removed bad influences from their life. Although I'm sure it would accomplish that, it just isn't necessary. Aaron is REAL good at shutting people out of his life whenever he wants to. There's no doubt about that. He just has to decide to do it. No move required. :wink:

Yoda is back! ;)

was wonderin where you've been haha

[AaronsShorty]

LOL! They've been together almost a year, I believe. Everyone seems to think she'll be the one, but only time can tell. He is Mr. Anti-Marriage after all. :laugh:

yeah true but I hope he gets married one day. He deserves it! and Lauren & him are a really cute couple! :)

[blitze1471]

LOL! They've been together almost a year, I believe. Everyone seems to think she'll be the one, but only time can tell. He is Mr. Anti-Marriage after all. :laugh:

It seems like all straight men these days are anti-marriage. Lol, a year? Geez, well, that's what I get for neglecting LD duties for a while. lol. Well, that's good news! I betcha she'd change his views about marriage lol. he's close to 30, I'm sure he hasn't ruled that idea out lol

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

This is some very inaccurate information here. Although he has in fact visited Nick in Nashville on several occasions for relatively short periods of time, he never "moved" to Nashville or "lived there" for any considerable length of time. He lives in the L.A. area and always has.
I seriously doubt those two could live together for very long anyway...without a murder resulting. LOL


Oooh okay, I misunderstood something somewhere then. I thought I remembered someone saying he was living there with Nick. Like had a room for him and everything. I thought it was Jane, maybe I misread her blog. Sorry about that. :(

[LargeandinchargE]

Yoda is back! ;)

was wonderin where you've been haha


Back. :)

Had some major computer issues.

I HATE when that happens. :redmad:

[LargeandinchargE]

Oooh okay, I misunderstood something somewhere then. I thought I remembered someone saying he was living there with Nick. Like had a room for him and everything. I thought it was Jane, maybe I misread her blog. Sorry about that. :(


There were SEVERAL erroneous reports that made things sound very differently than what was.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

It seems like all straight men these days are anti-marriage. Lol, a year? Geez, well, that's what I get for neglecting LD duties for a while. lol. Well, that's good news! I betcha she'd change his views about marriage lol. he's close to 30, I'm sure he hasn't ruled that idea out lol

They're glued at the hip, so, we'll see. Either way, as long as he's happy. :nod: :)

[AaronsShorty]

Oooh okay, I misunderstood something somewhere then. I thought I remembered someone saying he was living there with Nick. Like had a room for him and everything. I thought it was Jane, maybe I misread her blog. Sorry about that. :(

yeah it even said in the People mag article on Nick's weight loss that Aar was living with Nick in Nashville and when I read that I was like huh? :confused: didn't think so haha

[BSBSavedMyLife]

There were SEVERAL erroneous reports that made things sound very differently than what was.

Ah gotcha! Well, as long as it's all straightened out now. I'm in the clear. :p

[AaronsShorty]

Back. :)

Had some major computer issues.

I HATE when that happens. :redmad:

sure ya did ;)

and haha I hate it too! espec when my laptop doesnt connect to the internet for hours! it drives me crazy!

[BSBSavedMyLife]

yeah it even said in the People mag article on Nick's weight loss that Aar was living with Nick in Nashville and when I read that I was like huh? :confused: didn't think so haha

THAT WHERE I READ THAT!!! :roll: I knew I saw that somewhere! I was between that and Jane writing about Nick setting up his home and Aaron was with him.

[CamoBratDragon]

You know what I REALLY don't understand...

Who the hell is DeNiro, Devon, and so-and-so,etc.? I think it's absolutely HYSTERICAL that "nobodies" think they can make some one else a "somebody." One of them is what, a t-shirt artist? A T-shirt artist would be an extra plus if there was something that needed to be promoted (an album) but what does Aaron need to promote?

If anything, Aaron got THEIR names out. If Aaron had no connection with these people, they probably would not have frequently visited profiles, Twitter followers, etc.

He needs a real manager and a real team of people around him who know what the hell they're doing. You can't take a struggling artist and pair him up with another struggling artist and expect something magical to happen..lol. poof, you have a grammy!

I'm not saying anything about Devon because I'll take the word of some of the people here, that he seems to have better intentions than the likes of DeNiro and Tila.

You're right about Aaron getting their names out, that's a major part of the problem. They know they're nothing without him to leech off of(at least, in DeNiro's case. Tila's still got MTV to leech off of).

However, I kinda disagree with that bolded part. Yes, he could really use some professional guidance from people who know what they're doing and can help him. However, he's spent most of his career being told what to do by everyone else, and I think he needs to take some time now to think for himself and be in control of his own career. Guidance is one thing, control is another.

I do agree that getting advice/guidance/whatever from someone who's a virtual nobody in the business is completely useless. Look at what following their own advice has gotten them so far, would you really wanna end up the same way -- a.k.a. worse off than you are now?

[lovethacarters]

Back. :)

Had some major computer issues.

I HATE when that happens. :redmad:

hate when that happens 2! btw i sent u a pm!

[AaronsShorty]

THAT WHERE I READ THAT!!! :roll: I knew I saw that somewhere! I was between that and Jane writing about Nick setting up his home and Aaron was with him.

yeah i read it there too and was sooo confused until I came on here and realized he didn't move there haha

[CamoBratDragon]

yeah it even said in the People mag article on Nick's weight loss that Aar was living with Nick in Nashville and when I read that I was like huh? :confused: didn't think so haha

It wouldn't be the first time a magazine misquoted someone and never bothered to print a correction. ;)

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I feel hella stupid now. :nc:

[LargeandinchargE]

...

I do agree that getting advice/guidance/whatever from someone who's a virtual nobody in the business is completely useless. Look at what following their own advice has gotten them so far, would you really wanna end up the same way -- a.k.a. worse off than you are now?


Yeah, well...when someone advises Aaron that being the opening act for a sleazy, trashy, talentless crack whore is a good career move....

it's time for him to start seeking advice elsewhere.

[CamoBratDragon]

I feel hella stupid now. :nc:

Don't. A lot of us seem to have believed it! At least now we know what's really up. :)

[CamoBratDragon]

Yeah, well...when someone advises Aaron that being the opening act for a sleazy, trashy, talentless crack whore is a good career move....

it's time for him to start seeking advice elsewhere.

Exactly. :) I think he definitely needs to find better people to surround himself with who will give him MUCH better advice, I just think he needs to make sure he's the one in control of his career and not anyone else -- I'm not sure how else to word what I mean, lol.

It's like, he's had people around him for so long that have thought they knew better than he did in regards to what was best for him and his career -- like Lou, and DeNiro -- and right now he needs people to guide him without trying to control him and his life, just to support him and keep him on the right path.

I hope that made more sense, lol.

[AaronsShorty]

I feel hella stupid now. :nc:

don't!
i read it and thought the same thing! no worries!

[AaronsShorty]

It wouldn't be the first time a magazine misquoted someone and never bothered to print a correction. ;)

true!

[suzannema2005]

send him back to norway to get away from tila and deniro!!! lol!!!

:laugh: somewhere!

[suzannema2005]

Wherever he decides to go, it needs to be somewhere that he can take the time to think about himself and what he truly wants, let alone who in his life really cares about him and wants to see him happy and healthy.

good advice

I think i need to do some of that myself!

[BSBSavedMyLife]

don't!
i read it and thought the same thing! no worries!

I know, I just get embarrassed easily.

[CamoBratDragon]

I know, I just get embarrassed easily.

Join the club.

[suzannema2005]

yeah, she had a crapload of pics with him. I think she was just a fling though. It didn't last long and not too long after she started adding fans, he met Lauren. :roll:

oh right, i didnt have a clue that sage's friend hooked up with him!

[suzannema2005]

I never was crazy about Sage. She seemed like she was using Aaron go become a singer/model. Her voice wasn't anything special.

i seen a group on facebook dedicated to sage (but not in a nice way at all ...:laugh:) some girls from her highschool made it and totally trashed her on it saying she steals peoples boyfriends and that she is a w**** etc etc.

[blitze1471]

I'm not saying anything about Devon because I'll take the word of some of the people here, that he seems to have better intentions than the likes of DeNiro and Tila.

You're right about Aaron getting their names out, that's a major part of the problem. They know they're nothing without him to leech off of(at least, in DeNiro's case. Tila's still got MTV to leech off of).

However, I kinda disagree with that bolded part. Yes, he could really use some professional guidance from people who know what they're doing and can help him. However, he's spent most of his career being told what to do by everyone else, and I think he needs to take some time now to think for himself and be in control of his own career. Guidance is one thing, control is another.

I do agree that getting advice/guidance/whatever from someone who's a virtual nobody in the business is completely useless. Look at what following their own advice has gotten them so far, would you really wanna end up the same way -- a.k.a. worse off than you are now?

I think it would have been amazing if Aaron started managing HIMSELF at 18. It's not like he would have no one to turn to if he needed help. This is where I get angry because I don't understand why talented/intelligent people don't show it and apply themselves. If I sound like a teacher, I don't care. If you are in the position that he is, and this is something that he still truly wants to do, he needs to do it 100% and not 1/2 butt it for his fans (instrumental album = waste of money and time). It's been a long time since he truly acknowledged us in regular casing. lol. THIS KIND OF CRAP DOESN'T COUNT.

The only reason I mentioned "needing better people to manage him" is because the last time he was doing decently well in his career was when he was being managed by Jane. Now, there's no way in hecght I want him to go back down that road because it took a personal toll on him, but he needs responsible people around him. There's really no other way to put it. If he can't handle his own career and make wise decisions, he needs older more experience managers, etc to start getting this train back on the tracks.

It could actually come down to 1.) he's conflicted and has no idea what kind of music to make, etc due to his previous image/albums, and/or 2.) maybe he just really doesn't want to have a career anymore. Maybe it just isn't where his heart is anymore, I don't know. I definently don't think it should be ruled out. If singing or acting or juggling even was something you REALLY loved doing and you wanted to be the best you could at it, you would be busting your butt all the time. You'd be making ends meet so that you could afford the best people, equipment, etc. to get you to the highest position possible. It'd be work that you'd WANT to do and WANT to promote and you'd want to do it often. You'd also want to be sure it was advertised sufficently and even an OFFICAL REAL website would be created ASAP. Come on, Myspace and Twitter DO NOT replace an offical site in my book. lol.

[CamoBratDragon]

I think it would have been amazing if Aaron started managing HIMSELF at 18. It's not like he would have no one to turn to if he needed help. This is where I get angry because I don't understand why talented/intelligent people don't show it and apply themselves. If I sound like a teacher, I don't care. If you are in the position that he is, and this is something that he still truly wants to do, he needs to do it 100% and not 1/2 butt it for his fans (instrumental album = waste of money and time). It's been a long time since he truly acknowledged us in regular casing. lol. THIS KIND OF CRAP DOESN'T COUNT.

The only reason I mentioned "needing better people to manage him" is because the last time he was doing decently well in his career was when he was being managed by Jane. Now, there's no way in hecght I want him to go back down that road because it took a personal toll on him, but he needs responsible people around him. There's really no other way to put it. If he can't handle his own career and make wise decisions, he needs older more experience managers, etc to start getting this train back on the tracks.

It could actually come down to 1.) he's conflicted and has no idea what kind of music to make, etc due to his previous image/albums, and/or 2.) maybe he just really doesn't want to have a career anymore. Maybe it just isn't where his heart is anymore, I don't know. I definently don't think it should be ruled out. If singing or acting or juggling even was something you REALLY loved doing and you wanted to be the best you could at it, you would be busting your butt all the time. You'd be making ends meet so that you could afford the best people, equipment, etc. to get you to the highest position possible. It'd be work that you'd WANT to do and WANT to promote and you'd want to do it often. You'd also want to be sure it was advertised sufficently and even an OFFICAL REAL website would be created ASAP. Come on, Myspace and Twitter DO NOT replace an offical site in my book. lol.

I totally agree with you.

I think his heart is still in music, he just doesn't know where to go with it. He definitely needs the right kind of guidance.

And he'll always need our support!

[suzannema2005]

There's no doubt about that. He just has to decide to do it. No move required. :wink:

no one said 'aaron needs to move or else!'

weel i was just saying that he should go on vacation to florida, were he loves, and maybe it ill help him re-focus.

[CamoBratDragon]

no one said 'aaron needs to move or else!'

weel i was just saying that he should go on vacation to florida, were he loves, and maybe it ill help him re-focus.

Yeah, I just figured a change of scenery might help, I know he doesn't need it. :)

[BSBSavedMyLife]

oh right, i didnt have a clue that sage's friend hooked up with him!

I wouldn't have known had it not been for the fact, she randomly sent me a request on MySpace one day. I thought it was just another fan cuz her default pic was of her and Nick. Then I realized, she was saying she was dating him when she was like "Oh, just packing for my trip to Nashville to see my wonderful boyfriend, Nick." I was like :susp2: Then some of her pics with him got spread everywhere. I tried to be a nice person and let her know about this and she ignored me. I was like okay then. Now some girl named Nelli in the fan club uses that pic as her default and says it's her in the pic. :laugh:

[BSBSavedMyLife]

i seen a group on facebook dedicated to sage (but not in a nice way at all ...:laugh:) some girls from her highschool made it and totally trashed her on it saying she steals peoples boyfriends and that she is a w**** etc etc.

:roll: Wow!

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I also think it's important for people to remember that it's not about what he "should've" done, but more about what he "should" do. There's nothing anyone can do about the past. He can only learn from his mistakes and move forward.

[CamoBratDragon]

i wouldn't have known had it not been for the fact, she randomly sent me a request on myspace one day. I thought it was just another fan cuz her default pic was of her and nick. Then i realized, she was saying she was dating him when she was like "oh, just packing for my trip to nashville to see my wonderful boyfriend, nick." i was like :susp2: Then some of her pics with him got spread everywhere. I tried to be a nice person and let her know about this and she ignored me. I was like okay then. now some girl named nelli in the fan club uses that pic as her default and says it's her in the pic. :laugh:

lmao.

[suzannema2005]

Yeah, I just figured a change of scenery might help, I know he doesn't need it. :)

yeah it is amazing how getting out of an environment can help people.

[CamoBratDragon]

I also think it's important for people to remember that it's not about what he "should've" done, but more about what he "should" do. There's nothing anyone can do about the past. He can only learn from his mistakes and move forward.

I agree totally. There's nothing to be gained from dwelling on the past and what you could've done but didn't do. Just learn from it and do your best in the future. :)

*is aware that sounds like a cliche/proverb*

[suzannema2005]

what has happened with aaron disappearing from twitter all of a sudden? :confused:

[suzannema2005]

I agree totally. There's nothing to be gained from dwelling on the past and what you could've done but didn't do. Just learn from it and do your best in the future. :)

*is aware that sounds like a cliche/proverb*

lol .. but that is so true!

[BSBSavedMyLife]

lmao.

Yeah, it's pretty sad. She's got her MySpace and YouTube set up like that too. I see people asking her all the time and she's like "Yeah, that's me with Nick." I'm like :roll:

[Dnicki07]

i agree! the last time he went to florida was for all the wrong reasons *coughsage* he needs to go for himself not for others.

haha remeber her?!

as soon as aaron got back from norway last year he dumped her, he must of had time to think there.

somtimes when you are out of your surroundings it really can make a difference.

I definitely remember her. I also remember one of her besties taking a stab at Nick. Next thing I know, her pictures were all over MySpace and she was adding random BSB fans to rub it in their faces that she was with Nick. :roll: OMG! Pure entertainment.

sage was rude. so im guessing all of her friends had 2 be 2. this line will forever be burned in my memory "i dont like people" she had that on her page. very rude.

yeah, she had a crapload of pics with him. I think she was just a fling though. It didn't last long and not too long after she started adding fans, he met Lauren. :roll:

I never was crazy about Sage. She seemed like she was using Aaron go become a singer/model. Her voice wasn't anything special.

I like Sage... She's really nice. Do any of you happen to know her personally to stake such claims? She really is a sweetheart. And she was really devastated when they broke up...


She doesn't seem like the kind of girl that's just a cold hearted bitch and thats it..


That's my two cents, and nooo. I'm not picking fights with any of you. Just commenting on the subject matter. =]

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I agree totally. There's nothing to be gained from dwelling on the past and what you could've done but didn't do. Just learn from it and do your best in the future. :)

*is aware that sounds like a cliche/proverb*

LOL! Maybe a little cliche', but so true. :D

[BSBSavedMyLife]

That's my two cents, and nooo. I'm not picking fights with any of you. Just commenting on the subject matter. =]


Well, then...see ya guys later.

[CamoBratDragon]

Well, then...see ya guys later.

...:confused: You're turning in for the night?

[CamoBratDragon]

I like Sage... She's really nice. Do any of you happen to know her personally to stake such claims? She really is a sweetheart. And she was really devastated when they broke up...


She doesn't seem like the kind of girl that's just a cold hearted bitch and thats it..


That's my two cents, and nooo. I'm not picking fights with any of you. Just commenting on the subject matter. =]

I don't know Sage, I never pretended to, and I never will. I only know what I saw, and what I saw didn't paint a pretty picture of her AT ALL.

So, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that same way. And I'm MORE than sure I'm not the only one who has ever came to a conclusion about someone based only on what behaviors they saw the person engaging in.

That having been said, I think that you should consider how her behaviors and actions towards Aaron, Nick, and their fans look to those of us who don't know her at all. Would you want to get to know someone like that? I wouldn't.

How do you know that no one else here knows her even semi-personally? You can't make judgement calls like that in a place like this, it would be just as unfair if someone did that to you. You're doing to us what you think we're doing to Sage.

And aside from that, do you think she even cares what people on a forum are saying about her? Does she post here? Could it be possible that she might be flattered by any attention and therefore wouldn't even care what we're saying about her?

Okay, I'm done being bitchy about it now. :)

[LargeandinchargE]

what has happened with aaron disappearing from twitter all of a sudden? :confused:


It's been nice to not see him making a blithering idiot out of himself every day. :)

[HollyBird]

yes, it has been a nice surprise...

[Dnicki07]

I don't know Sage, I never pretended to, and I never will. I only know what I saw, and what I saw didn't paint a pretty picture of her AT ALL.

So, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that same way. And I'm MORE than sure I'm not the only one who has ever came to a conclusion about someone based only on what behaviors they saw the person engaging in.

That having been said, I think that you should consider how her behaviors and actions towards Aaron, Nick, and their fans look to those of us who don't know her at all. Would you want to get to know someone like that? I wouldn't.

How do you know that no one else here knows her even semi-personally? You can't make judgement calls like that in a place like this, it would be just as unfair if someone did that to you. You're doing to us what you think we're doing to Sage.

And aside from that, do you think she even cares what people on a forum are saying about her? Does she post here? Could it be possible that she might be flattered by any attention and therefore wouldn't even care what we're saying about her?

Okay, I'm done being bitchy about it now. :)


This is why I asked if anybody knew her personally...



And she's just a person... like you or I, would you care if somebody was talking about you on a forum? I would...

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I don't know Sage, I never pretended to, and I never will. I only know what I saw, and what I saw didn't paint a pretty picture of her AT ALL.

So, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that same way. And I'm MORE than sure I'm not the only one who has ever came to a conclusion about someone based only on what behaviors they saw the person engaging in.

That having been said, I think that you should consider how her behaviors and actions towards Aaron, Nick, and their fans look to those of us who don't know her at all. Would you want to get to know someone like that? I wouldn't.

How do you know that no one else here knows her even semi-personally? You can't make judgement calls like that in a place like this, it would be just as unfair if someone did that to you. You're doing to us what you think we're doing to Sage.

And aside from that, do you think she even cares what people on a forum are saying about her? Does she post here? Could it be possible that she might be flattered by any attention and therefore wouldn't even care what we're saying about her?

Okay, I'm done being bitchy about it now. :)



REPS! And, you convinced me, I came back! *fluttering eyelashes* Also, I can say this much about her...I have three sources and not one of them had anything nice to say about her. So, that is where my judgments came from. I trust them completely too.

[Dnicki07]

I'm not here to judge anybody... Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This is just a subject we'll just have to agree to disagree on.

Because I really don't want to argue over something so silly.

[lovethacarters]

i seen a group on facebook dedicated to sage (but not in a nice way at all ...:laugh:) some girls from her highschool made it and totally trashed her on it saying she steals peoples boyfriends and that she is a w**** etc etc.

ahaha i saw that too! :roll: see? rude and not a nice person!

[lovethacarters]

I like Sage... She's really nice. Do any of you happen to know her personally to stake such claims? She really is a sweetheart. And she was really devastated when they broke up...


She doesn't seem like the kind of girl that's just a cold hearted bitch and thats it..


That's my two cents, and nooo. I'm not picking fights with any of you. Just commenting on the subject matter. =]

she was rude to me in a message.

[tupac]

his girlfriends arent any of your guys's business.

no one should be messaging any of his friends, let alone his girlfriends.


do you realize how annoying it can be? they're human they can't be nice to everyone all the time.

*some* of them are friensd with aaron because of who he is, not what he does. and they don't need to constantly be reminded of it every day.

[Dnicki07]

his girlfriends arent any of your guys's business.

no one should be messaging any of his friends, let alone his girlfriends.


do you realize how annoying it can be? they're human they can't be nice to everyone all the time.

*some* of them are friensd with aaron because of who he is, not what he does. and they don't need to constantly be reminded of it every day.

Agreed.

[lovethacarters]

his girlfriends arent any of your guys's business.

no one should be messaging any of his friends, let alone his girlfriends.


do you realize how annoying it can be? they're human they can't be nice to everyone all the time.

*some* of them are friensd with aaron because of who he is, not what he does. and they don't need to constantly be reminded of it every day.

i didnt message her mentioning aaron at all. i messaged her asking her where she had gotten a pair of shoes that i wanted badly.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

his girlfriends arent any of your guys's business.

no one should be messaging any of his friends, let alone his girlfriends.


do you realize how annoying it can be? they're human they can't be nice to everyone all the time.

*some* of them are friensd with aaron because of who he is, not what he does. and they don't need to constantly be reminded of it every day.

I agree, they're not any of our business, but some people find out things by not asking. What can be said about people can't keep their mouths shut in the first place? I wouldn't ever dream of messaging a friend, gf, ex gf, or family member of Aaron's or any other celebrity. Some people have their reasons for messaging them, I suppose, but I couldn't do it. I have had some of these type of people come to me on their own though. Would that put me in the same condition as people who intentionally contact them? Be honest too because I'm curious to know. I mean, the ones who have talked to me before, I don't bother them. They have to message me first before I'll even say anything to them. The last thing I wanna do is be of an invasion of overstep boundaries. If I'm in that case, I know to block people from my life when it happens.

[HollyBird]

I hope I am not a bother to anyone..

[tupac]

everything i said was generally speaking; not directed towards anyone.

i'm just saying, when people become friends wth ANY celebrity or someone known, the right minded people don't do it because of their names, but because of the person they are. they don't think about what comes with it and just because they're friends are in the limelight and have fans that they need to be nice to doesn't mean that their friends need to feel the same compassion. to a certian extent, maybe, but not to the point where they should feel obligated or want to answer fanmail.

fans need to respect lines and not cross it. they all need to learn that.

if a person approaches you about something, its a different story. more than likely if they're approaching YOU about something with their friend, then its obvious their heart is NOT in the right place. just saying.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

everything i said was generally speaking; not directed towards anyone.

i'm just saying, when people become friends wth ANY celebrity or someone known, the right minded people don't do it because of their names, but because of the person they are. they don't think about what comes with it and just because they're friends are in the limelight and have fans that they need to be nice to doesn't mean that their friends need to feel the same compassion. to a certian extent, maybe, but not to the point where they should feel obligated or want to answer fanmail.

fans need to respect lines and not cross it. they all need to learn that.

if a person approaches you about something, its a different story. more than likely if they're approaching YOU about something with their friend, then its obvious their heart is NOT in the right place. just saying.



I gotcha on what you mean now and thanks for clearing that up. I think the only time I've sent fan club to a family member would be through the fan club. That was when Howie Dorough's father passed away, but that was through fan club only. I would never go out of my way to talk to someone close to any celebrity. I have had two people come to me and share all kinds of details on the Carters. Most of the time, I sit there shaking my head cuz it's stuff I soooo don't wanna know. One of them I wound up blocking, I couldn't take it anymore, especially when my personal friends were being involved in the mess. One other source doesn't give me personal info, I'm cool that completely. My friendship with that person is more professional than anything or at least I try to keep it that way. LOL!

[HollyBird]

well I think with anything, there is a way to go about it and not and a way to behave in every situation.. but it is hard to tell when you are a bother to them and then just someone nice to talk too..

[BSBSavedMyLife]

well I think with anything, there is a way to go about it and not and a way to behave in every situation.. but it is hard to tell when you are a bother to them and then just someone nice to talk too..

I still think it boils down to what you talk about and how it's approached. Me? I don't bother any of the people I know who are friends with celebs. They always hit me up with a conversation. I keep it simple and general. I don't talk to them like I've known them all my life and I don't ignore them either. Most people who don't wanna have anything to do with you would come out and say it. Not just celeb friends, but people in general. I know if I absolutely can't stand someone, I'm gonna say something.

[HollyBird]

well okay, so I think I feel a little better, but still it is hard to get a feel, ya know.. people can be funny creatures...

[BSBSavedMyLife]

well okay, so I think I feel a little better, but still it is hard to get a feel, ya know.. people can be funny creatures...

You just gotta keep your distance. Don't get your hopes up and don't get too close. Keep it general. If they're talking to you lightly, it's their choice. Treat as if you're talking to them here in the forum. Just go with wherever the convo takes you. It's just an internet conversation. Very rarely are going to find anything going past that unless it's a romantic relationship, but you're not really likely to find that either.

[HollyBird]

hahaha yeah. it's hard for me because it is so easy to get involved.. and to not get emotionally invested..

[BSBSavedMyLife]

hahaha yeah. it's hard for me because it is so easy to get involved.. and to not get emotionally invested..

I've learned how to be semi heartless. Of course, I don't advise you to take my approach. I beat myself up and tell myself I'm not worthy as a defense mechanism.

[HollyBird]

so I am pretty much screwed.. yeah my roommate and I were actually talking about something similar tonight..

[HollyBird]

*sings "Heartless"*

[BSBSavedMyLife]

so I am pretty much screwed.. yeah my roommate and I were actually talking about something similar tonight..

You're only screwed if you believe you're screwed. Attitude and personality are all a state of mind. :nod:

[HollyBird]

that's not good rach.. huggsss

[BSBSavedMyLife]

that's not good rach.. huggsss

I know it's not, but it keeps me from getting hurt and definitely keeps me in check.

[HollyBird]

You're only screwed if you believe you're screwed. Attitude and personality are all a state of mind. :nod:

well I care too much and I don't know anymore.. just trying to sort this all out.. like your damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't situation..

[BSBSavedMyLife]

well I care too much and I don't know anymore.. just trying to sort this all out.. like your damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't situation..

You're thinking too damn much. LOL! You can't do that in situations like this. You just gotta be light and breezy. You keep doing that, you're gonna find yourself getting accused of being too pushy. The more you're paranoid, the harder you try to find the answer. Just sit back and let things happen the way they're supposed to. Don't ask questions, just go with what they want. You'll know if it's a good or bad thing. Stop doubting yourself. I guarantee you that's half your problem.

[HollyBird]

hhahaha. yeah and I almost never doubt myself, just with new situations I suppose. that is just the way it feels..

anyways good night..

[BSBSavedMyLife]

hhahaha. yeah and I almost never doubt myself, just with new situations I suppose. that is just the way it feels..

anyways good night..

I'll tell you this much 90% of what you feel in your gut is correct. Don't ever turn away from your gut.

[HollyBird]

hahaha.. I have to let it rest in fate's hands and it will be as it is meant to be..

thanks for your brillant advice..

breezy..

sweet dreams

[BSBSavedMyLife]

hahaha.. I have to let it rest in fate's hands and it will be as it is meant to be..

thanks for your brillant advice..

breezy..

sweet dreams



No problem. Nighty night.

[HollyBird]

I'll tell you this much 90% of what you feel in your gut is correct. Don't ever turn away from your gut.

okay, I will keep that in mind..

[HollyBird]

No problem. Nighty night.

sleep well sweetheart

[Dnicki07]

*sigh* I suppose I should get to bed too.

Night everybody!

[blitze1471]

This thread has been all over the place. lol. His girlfriends, ex-gfs, flavors of the week, w/e have nothing to do with this. lol. He doesn't have the best sense yet of picking the right friends or girls apparently...

[BSBSavedMyLife]

This thread has been all over the place. lol. His girlfriends, ex-gfs, flavors of the week, w/e have nothing to do with this. lol. He doesn't have the best sense yet of picking the right friends or girls apparently...

Some people are just like that. What can we do except love them anyway? *shrugs*

[blitze1471]

Some people are just like that. What can we do except love them anyway? *shrugs*

Smack em'? :)

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Smack em'? :)

:laugh: Somehow I don't think any of us would be able to smack him.

[CamoBratDragon]

LD died on me last night, I'm glad my last post when through because I wasn't sure if it did or not. :)

I'm also glad I didn't miss much of the conversation, so I think I'm caught up now. :)

Edit: I wouldn't be able to smack him, but believe me I'd love to -- at least, if I knew it would smack some sense into him, lol.

[blitze1471]

I think I could smack him, now would he slap me back,..hmm? lol

[suzannema2005]

I'm also glad I didn't miss much of the conversation, so I think I'm caught up now. :)


it isnt a conversation :rolleye2: its our theorys on aaron!





only jokin!! :D
:laugh:

[suzannema2005]

I think I could smack him, now would he slap me back,..hmm? lol

Your Just A Rockstar Baby!

[suzannema2005]

I agree, they're not any of our business, but some people find out things by not asking. What can be said about people can't keep their mouths shut in the first place? I wouldn't ever dream of messaging a friend, gf, ex gf, or family member of Aaron's or any other celebrity. Some people have their reasons for messaging them, I suppose, but I couldn't do it. I have had some of these type of people come to me on their own though. Would that put me in the same condition as people who intentionally contact them? Be honest too because I'm curious to know. I mean, the ones who have talked to me before, I don't bother them. They have to message me first before I'll even say anything to them. The last thing I wanna do is be of an invasion of overstep boundaries. If I'm in that case, I know to block people from my life when it happens.

i've seen it to many times were once someone finds out that someone is a friend of nick or aarons, they start sending them messages, basically sucking up to them.

your right not to bother them. its not like your going to become bff with them right!! ... :hat:

[blitze1471]

haha naughty!!

maybe if i slapped aaron would nick slap me for doing that to his brother :laugh:

O, wow..lol it wasn't supposed to be "naughty." lol but since u like the "innuendo.." hahahaha.

[blitze1471]

i've seen it to many times were once someone finds out that someone is a friend of nick or aarons, they start sending them messages, basically sucking up to them.

your right not to bother them. its not like your going to become bff with them right!! ... :hat:

Welllll, what if sucking up to them works? :bunny: :wink: lol, naw, i've never done that. Well, I've never actually found anyone to do that to...lol

[BSBSavedMyLife]

i've seen it to many times were once someone finds out that someone is a friend of nick or aarons, they start sending them messages, basically sucking up to them.

your right not to bother them. its not like your going to become bff with them right!! ... :hat:



I've seen it happen time and time again. I will never understand any of it. I would much rather meet any famous person because it happened the way it should have been. Not because I forced it to happen. Usually people who push their way to be near a famous person don't have good intentions in the first place. They like to hide behind some good fan story of why they "have" to meet them. In the end, they're not really after what they claim to be after. I find it much more fun to be a fan who sits in the corner and observes things around them. Ooh how many times I've been in the same room with BSB and never took one step in their direction. When it's my turn to meet someone famous, it'll happen the right way. :nod:

[CamoBratDragon]

O, wow..lol it wasn't supposed to be "naughty." lol but since u like the "innuendo.." hahahaha.


:].

[CamoBratDragon]

I've seen it happen time and time again. I will never understand any of it. I would much rather meet any famous person because it happened the way it should have been. Not because I forced it to happen. Usually people who push their way to be near a famous person don't have good intentions in the first place. They like to hide behind some good fan story of why they "have" to meet them. In the end, they're not really after what they claim to be after. I find it much more fun to be a fan who sits in the corner and observes things around them. Ooh how many times I've been in the same room with BSB and never took one step in their direction. When it's my turn to meet someone famous, it'll happen the right way. :nod:

I agree. :) I've never been anywhere near BSB, but I've been to one of Aaron's concerts before and even then I barely got close to him. I know that if I'm meant to meet any of them, let alone befriend them or anything like that, that it'll happen in due time and when it is meant to happen. :)

[HollyBird]

right it's all about fate.. when it was meant to happen, it will..

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I agree. :) I've never been anywhere near BSB, but I've been to one of Aaron's concerts before and even then I barely got close to him. I know that if I'm meant to meet any of them, let alone befriend them or anything like that, that it'll happen in due time and when it is meant to happen. :)

I've seen them around many times. Mostly when I was living in NYC. I'll never forget this one time when I was on a date with this guy named Raul. He took to this really nice restaurant. We sat down and about halfway through the appetizer, I spot Howie and Nick coming in and were seated diagonally from us. Naturally, being a fan, I kept looking. LOL! Raul found it pretty amusing and kept asking me if I wanted to go over there. He knew I was a huge fan and was very willing to grab their attention. I told him no way was I going to interrupt their meal. I was quite content with catching a few glances between conversations with my date. Of course when we finished, he asked me one more time if I wanted to go over there. I still couldn't do it. I think they knew I had been looking because when we passed by their table to leave, Nick looked me way and smirked. I could've died. :laugh: Needless to say, my embarrassed ass high tailed it out of there with Raul laughing behind me.

[HollyBird]

hahahaha.. OMG.. you have alot more self-control ten most fans...

[HollyBird]

I switched up my signature a bit..

[BSBSavedMyLife]

hahahaha.. OMG.. you have alot more self-control ten most fans...

LOL! I can't help it. I couldn't just walk up there in the middle of their meal. That's rude! I probably could've waited until they were finished, which was another suggestion my date mentioned. I couldn't do that either cuz then I would've felt like a stalker.

[HollyBird]

aww yeah I hope that I would have only reacted as respectful as you did, I would like to think i would...

[BSBSavedMyLife]

aww yeah I hope that I would have only reacted as respectful as you did, I would like to think i would...

I'm sure you would have. I mean, I don't hold it against people who do things otherwise. It's just not how I roll.

[HollyBird]

yeah I mean it is kinda one of those things. untill you are in the moment, you don't know how you would react, but I would be too nervous to say anything I am sure, idk.. sometimes your heart takes over your mind... ya know what I mean??

[BSBSavedMyLife]

yeah I mean it is kinda one of those things. untill you are in the moment, you don't know how you would react, but I would be too nervous to say anything I am sure, idk.. sometimes your heart takes over your mind... ya know what I mean??

Yup! Most definitely know what you mean. It's always something you don't know until it happens. :)

[HollyBird]

right, everyone thinks one thing, and sometimes it just happens and you don't even know it.. hahaha.. aderline kicks in..

[Dnicki07]

Mwahahahaha.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w154/DNicki07/picnik/SLEEP-1.jpg
I do really love this kid. lol

[BeMiCon88]

blocked by ads but i can kinda see it lol.

[HollyBird]

awwww, if that isn't the cutest picture EVER...

[lovethacarters]

Mwahahahaha.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w154/DNicki07/picnik/SLEEP-1.jpg
I do really love this kid. lol

aw! so cute! lovely pic! :)

[kittypup]

Mwahahahaha.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w154/DNicki07/picnik/SLEEP-1.jpg
I do really love this kid. lol

Really nice, Dawn!
I do :love: him too. :nod:

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Mwahahahaha.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w154/DNicki07/picnik/SLEEP-1.jpg
I do really love this kid. lol

Awww! I adore him when he's sleeping. This is my favorite pic ever:

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm211/BSBSavedMyLife/Aaron%20Carter/n540980932_1521458_4340.jpg

[HollyBird]

awwwww AARON :))))) that looks so comfy :))

[CamoBratDragon]

Mwahahahaha.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w154/DNicki07/picnik/SLEEP-1.jpg
I do really love this kid. lol

I love this picture. :) And the other one you posted, too!

:love: Aaron. :)

[Dnicki07]

Awww! I adore him when he's sleeping. This is my favorite pic ever:

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm211/BSBSavedMyLife/Aaron%20Carter/n540980932_1521458_4340.jpg

Awww, I LOVE that one too!

[HollyBird]

so sweet ;)))

[AaronsShorty]

Awww! I adore him when he's sleeping. This is my favorite pic ever:

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm211/BSBSavedMyLife/Aaron%20Carter/n540980932_1521458_4340.jpg

thats one of my favs too!

[HollyBird]

cutest photo ever :)))

[AaronsShorty]

def Holly :)

I'm Sam btw lol

[HollyBird]

Hey sam,

I'm holly

[AaronsShorty]

nice to meet you :)

[HollyBird]

awww, nice to meet you too

[AaronsShorty]

hope all is well with you! :)

[HollyBird]

yes thank you, so tired and blahhh..

how are you sam?

[AaronsShorty]

im tired too. its been a long day. but a relaxing one. for the most part lol

and i had a caramel frap from Starbucks (I haven't had one in a while since they usually make me sick) tonight and what do ya know, my stomach gets upset from it. again. no more caramel fraps for me! haha but they are soooo good so its hard to resist.

[HollyBird]

OMG, one of my fave drinks from starbucks... yummmyyy

[AaronsShorty]

OMG, one of my fave drinks from starbucks... yummmyyy

its sooo good but makes me sick so i try not to get it often lol

I love White Hot Mocha's, Green Tea Lemonade (my new favorite! and the only thing that doesn't make me sick lol) and Pumpkin Spice Latte's (during the fall & winter) and others I'm sure I'm missing but those are my top three lol

[bunnycat1981]

def Holly :)

I'm Sam btw lol

aww i want to play introductions but i can't ...having major issues i'm still dealing with ...that's the only reason i'm being so secretive ...and even then i keep saying too much

anyway didn't pick you for a sam lol... and you're never allowed to change that avy btw ...that's what you look like to me hahahahahahaha

hmmm what name would i tell you is mine anyway... i wouldn't be lying for any of them lol... i guess the one everyone calls me would make the most sense though

i vaguely told holly about this ...wish i could tell you guys more but unfortunately i can't

[AaronsShorty]

aww i want to play introductions but i can't ...having major issues i'm still dealing with ...that's the only reason i'm being so secretive ...and even then i keep saying too much

anyway didn't pick you for a sam lol... and you're never allowed to change that avy btw ...that's what you look like to me hahahahahahaha

hmmm what name would i tell you is mine anyway... i wouldn't be lying for any of them lol... i guess the one everyone calls me would make the most sense though

i vaguely told holly about this ...wish i could tell you guys more but unfortunately i can't


haha what'd you pick me for? and if you're thinking what i'm thinking then lmao :laugh:

and oh i know i never want to change my avy cuz his smile is so sexy and makes me happy everytime i see it :D

and oh okay its all good

[Dnicki07]

Heyyy! I'm Dawn, most of you probably already know that. But... since we're doing formal introductions.. There's mine. =]

[AaronsShorty]

haha i love how we are doing formal intros
this is great :)

nice to meet you Dawn!

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Formal intros, eh? *ahem*

Hi, I'm Rachel! :)

[bunnycat1981]

haha what'd you pick me for? and if you're thinking what i'm thinking then lmao :laugh:

and oh i know i never want to change my avy cuz his smile is so sexy and makes me happy everytime i see it :D

and oh okay its all good

idk actually..

haha i like the smile in that pic too ...but i associate it with you lol

[Dnicki07]

haha i love how we are doing formal intros
this is great :)

nice to meet you Dawn!

Hey Sam, Nice to meet you too! lol

[HollyBird]

I'm Holly..

[blitze1471]

How did yall get these photos? lol. I think it's creepy when people watch me sleep...I can't imagine someone taking PICTURES of it lol..and then posting them on an open forum ..haha.

[bunnycat1981]

How did yall get these photos? lol. I think it's creepy when people watch me sleep...I can't imagine someone taking PICTURES of it lol..and then posting them on an open forum ..haha.

ones only a few weeks old from tony ...can't remember where the other one came from but it was awhile ago now ...pretty sure it was one of his profiles though ...idk

[Dnicki07]

ones only a few weeks old from tony ...can't remember where the other one came from but it was awhile ago now ...pretty sure it was one of his profiles though ...idk

I believe it came from his facebook... I could be wrong.

[HollyBird]

yeah our sleeping angel.. hahaha