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smeagols_twin
Jun 19th, 2009, 03:21 AM
So as some of you know i have been arguing with some things that Large, Tupac and Pnutz have been saying.

First of all i am not sure how PopStarDancer got dragged into any of this but i don't think she deserves to be labeled a poser and if you do think someone is posing check it out with the mods before you make something public. Best way to deal with it.

With Aaron saying what he has said about LD i have decided to believe him. I know if what Large, Tupac etc is true then of course Aaron would try and lead us off the track BUT in the end it comes down to why the hell would i believe 3 people i have never heard of and have never seen proved right over someone who i have followed for some years and admire. Whether Aaron is wrong and the others are right why would you believe them? Unless you just love a good conspiracy theory then i don't get it.

The only thing i can see that they are right about is that DeNiro seems to not always be interested in Aaron's best interests.

The thing with what Large, Tupac and Pnutz are saying is that there is no proof and they can easily make a story around what Aaron does. "Aaron is letting fans ring him so it MUST be a scam' Having said that if he really is making money off people clicking links on his twitter GOOD ON HIM it costs us nothing so why the hell should we care?

As i have said before i am keeping my mind open and not comepletely discounting the "stories" but i will obey my logic.

Finally if i am proven wrong i will gladly apologize for giving them such a hard time but at the same time i think i am right to stand up for myself and not blindly follow, which whether you like it or not Pnutz, Tupac and Large is exactly what i would be doing with no evidence whatsoever and what some of this board are doing.

Peace and in the end i don't care how everything worlks out as long as Aaron is doing the right thing for him.

tupac
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:15 AM
FYI, I never said this was a scam. I actually do not agree on that situation. So don't group me into that category.

I haven't been around this place lately and don't even know what's going on as far as that whole thing goes.

smeagols_twin
Jun 19th, 2009, 04:25 AM
Fair enough and i know you don't post often. I'm just grouping you into the group that seems to know about Aaron

Pnutz
Jun 19th, 2009, 08:04 AM
'Twins' -Well 1st I didn't know we were 'arguing' I thought it was discussing..but..?? Ok ..whatever

Ok . as Discussing -not arguing - you stated the following:
The thing with what Large, Tupac and Pnutz are saying is that there is no proof and they can easily make a story around what Aaron does. "Aaron is letting fans ring him so it MUST be a scam' Having said that if he really is making money off people clicking links on his twitter GOOD ON HIM it costs us nothing so why the hell should we care?

Ok, now least to me that Kind of Crosses the Line -
Ref: your Comment :>"there is no proof and they can easily make a story"

And, since It now has been PROVEN that indeed hidden web-marketing links were indeed being transmitted in some of the links and that what was happening was not a "Made up Story" as suggested -and, May I also point out -was not EVER suggested nor Claimed that Aaron himself Directly had anything to do with this -And, actually, I think if you bother to read back you would actually find where people clearly stated that this was being done and he wouldn't listen to people that were warning him about it - and that it was simply [B]pointed out well in advance with 'flashlights' simply as warnings to people that Certain things were going on and that people should Look / and Think and Learn -before jumping on a bandwagon that Might have alternative motives.

Then to address the next issue "it costs us nothing so why the hell should we care?"


Ok its cost's Nothing? -Are you speaking of like suscribing to something? or out of pocket expense? -Very True- and, I don't believe anyone has said anything about it costing or any charges etc. < But, long term effect? Who Knows? Perhaps you should read some of the Horror Stories people have gone thru with things such as being overwhelmed and subjected to mass marketing mailings/calls/and IP attacks al due to simply clicking a 'attached link' or innocent looking link in some random e-mail.

And, No ONE has even suggested that it would lead to any mass marketing campaign etc. But, No one knows clearly just what could happen with this exposure -I Certainly don't do you? - All that was suggested was that People need to Stop and Think before Jumping

Now, I don't know what part or where You are missing what was Clearly Said and Explained Time after Time and Addressed and Re-addressed -but, Yet? You still whether intentional or thru a misunderstanding of some sorts are Missing something?

Perhaps.. maybe if it is a Language thing-possibly a Interpreter can be arranged?

Or, maybe perhaps You don't like What you see and even regardless of the FACTS - You fail to accept the simple FACT that indeed - Well prior to the events of the 'Links" being Exposed - that People were warned -and that you failed to accept that indeed 'Some' People on the Board Do Indeed Know EXACTLY what they are talking about. Now,Possibly if you had paid more attention to what WAS going on Rather than paying so much attention to trying to pick apart stuff and looking for things that weren't there -and missing the things that were - perhaps ?? -just perhaps ?? You would have caught on.. Obviously for whatever reason you are still having this issue though.


As far as the Rach issue- I'm Not fully prepared to voice my Comments on that as of yet- And I wish to talk with Rach 1st before I Do. - But, Obviously, I think most LOGICAL people on this Board and others - Know I'm Not Happy about some MIS-INFORMED and OBLIVIOUS to the FACTS - Vicious, Nasty and Revengeful laden individual would intentionally launch a Attack on a innocent person such as Rach like that. And, Again, it shows what happens when someone Fails to see the FACTS and jumps on bandwagons without heeding or reading the signs clearly posted prior to entering the ride. And instead jump to Conclusions and Self-Imposed findings and Lashing out without thinking or opening thier eyes and seeing whats clearly in front of them.

NiCkFaN
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:11 PM
guys?....Lets get over it all.

If you ask me, fans are making drama for aaron and he DOSNT need it. Lets get over it all and be happy for the guy.

BSBSavedMyLife
Jun 19th, 2009, 05:30 PM
As far as the Rach issue- I'm Not fully prepared to voice my Comments on that as of yet- And I wish to talk with Rach 1st before I Do. - But, Obviously, I think most LOGICAL people on this Board and others - Know I'm Not Happy about some MIS-INFORMED and OBLIVIOUS to the FACTS - Vicious, Nasty and Revengeful laden individual would intentionally launch a Attack on a innocent person such as Rach like that. And, Again, it shows what happens when someone Fails to see the FACTS and jumps on bandwagons without heeding or reading the signs clearly posted prior to entering the ride. And instead jump to Conclusions and Self-Imposed findings and Lashing out without thinking or opening thier eyes and seeing whats clearly in front of them.

Thank you! Good lord! Someone's bringing the truth into the situation here. Thank you for that, Nutterz. You know I love ya. Anyway, surgery is over, so whenever you're ready to chat with me about it, send me a line. You know where to find me.

smeagols_twin
Jun 20th, 2009, 05:45 AM
If Pnutz you had been paying attention to my posts you would have realised that i have indeed been following what you all have been saying and actually agreeing with some of it.

I iwsh you had also noted that i am keeping an open mind and not completely disregarding what has been said.

Also i am not sure if your post about Rachel was aimed at me but i want to clarify i was NEVER having a go at her and was actually standing up for her.

I wasn't aware that any scam was proven and with the whole situation i really don't know what to think.

The most logical thing to do would be not to believe you guys OR Aaron so i don't knoe.

Pnutz
Jun 20th, 2009, 09:57 AM
If Pnutz you had been paying attention to my posts you would have realised that i have indeed been following what you all have been saying and actually agreeing with some of it.

I iwsh you had also noted that i am keeping an open mind and not completely disregarding what has been said.

Also i am not sure if your post about Rachel was aimed at me but i want to clarify i was NEVER having a go at her and was actually standing up for her.

I wasn't aware that any scam was proven and with the whole situation i really don't know what to think.

The most logical thing to do would be not to believe you guys OR Aaron so i don't knoe.

Twins Noo I can Assure you that it was not 'Aimed' at you-- was never my intent to even make it appear that way and anyone that is mistakenly assuming it was -Please Understand that I WAS NOT aiming this at Twins -and WAS NOT in any way even intending it to be taken that way.

And Twins - There is Nothing saying anyone is Lying--least by me -So the wording of 'who to believe"? can be taken the wrong way.

What I think? has ben said over and over and over again is "Sometimes things Are Not Always What it Seems" and there are certain reasons for wording certain things in certain ways - not that any would be actually 'Lying' but.. maybe misleading.
Hope that helps.??

Ref: the twitter thing.. I dont have time right now but there is a post where shows he said he was the only one using the twitter and isnt any telemarketing or web marketing and 9 posts under it --u guessed it.. a web-marketing link with a 'Phishing' Cookie attached.


Wait and.. in all Fairness - HE did change Cell Plans or had Cell Issues and Did Immediately do something and since whatever he did to his cell or plan or whatever --there hasn't been any such re-occurrences.