So out with the negativity in with the POSITIVITY

[smeagols_twin]

Aaron is completely right on this and to get a new trend (not twitter related lol) going i have an idea!

Seeing as Aaron has been trying to rally the support for his new song "I Aint Gonna Take No More' i was thinking maybe each week we can all focus on a certain radio station, i'm thinking the biggest radio station in each country, and we all vote through the net and over the phone. obviously locals would be best at calling through and fans all over the world can email them letting them know about the new stuff.

We all know how the radio and media can be prejuduced against people like Aaron sometimes but i think this is the best chance we can give Aaron and get the public to decide if they want to hear his music. If radio plays it i know it will make the old fans aware that AC is still at it and i'm sure he will gain some new fans.

Who's in?

I guess the best place to start would be the US.... Is KIIS fm the biggest?

[smeagols_twin]

I wanna call all you lurkers out of the woodwork too. Help get this idea up and running. Can't run if no feet are on the ground.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Positivity flow, baby! I'm changing my AC myspace page to this!

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/passionwriter81/1.jpg




Some people have their issues with A.C. and it's all good. I gotta worry about me now. I pride myself in finding the positive in any situation. I've had my moments of negativity, but I just can't do it anymore. The way I see it, not everyone is going to agree with Aaron's actions. I know I don't at times, but I can't help him if I'm pulling him down. There's a big difference between blind positivity and supportive positivity. I'm in all the way. :)

[smeagols_twin]

I love your graphic and i think Aaron would too.

I'm going through some radio stations now and i'll post one soon for a tester.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I love your graphic and i think Aaron would too.

I'm going through some radio stations now and i'll post one soon for a tester.

He does love it. He just wrote me on Twitter saying thanks for the support. :)

[smeagols_twin]

*That's awesome. So let's get this thing under way with a trial run....

I have chosen the radio station KBPK 90.1 Now they are an Adult Contemporary station so i realise Aaron's music won't fit quite in but this is only to test my theory of power by numbers. They have a program called "new notes" which plays new music and being an independent station i figured they are more likely to pick a song up by Aaron.

Their website is www.kbpk-fm.com

Go here http://www.kbpk-fm.com/contact.html to request I Aint Gonna Take No More and i suggest we provide the link from HitLab.

The requesting period will be between Sunday 21st June to Saturday 27th June.

Between now and then it would be great if the fans of LD could spread this through Twitter, Facebook, Myspace, Any Aaron Yahoo groups etc

Would be great if all the fans can work together as a team. Voting here and there individually is great but this way we can make a real difference for Aaron and then he'll be able to tour all the places we want him to lol.

[BabyG]

I think this is a great idea. Maybe Aaron won't hate us afterwards :D lol

[Dnicki07]

I don't think he hates us... I think he was just upset about all of the rumors, when we should have just went right to him to find out the truth..

[BabyG]

I don't think he hates us... I think he was just upset about all of the rumors, when we should have just went right to him to find out the truth..

Yeah I know what you mean. I wouldn't blame him though. Some of it was just a bit much :noway:

[LargeandinchargE]

I don't think he hates us... I think he was just upset about all of the rumors, when we should have just went right to him to find out the truth..


If you think what you're getting from him is truth....

:roll:

[Dnicki07]

If you think what you're getting from him is truth....

:roll:

:nc:

[BabyG]

*Okay going back to what this thread is really about--no ac bashing and sacastic remarks going on*

Okay, I'm thinking 102.7 kiss FM in OKC. I'll look into that one.

[Pnutz]

I don't think he hates us... I think he was just upset about all of the rumors, when we should have just went right to him to find out the truth..


Humm maybe before fully jumping onboard and waving the Pom Poms and erupting in a full halftime show-- perhaps just perhaps? should ask ? humm the 'truth' or a excuse?

You are the Fan's -You didn't leave him - He is the one that left you--for how many yrs? < Nothing not a peep- now, as a 'Entertainer' wants back and gives a 'excuse' and you fall for it? And a excuse without any backing without any reasonable explanations -without anything except basically-- 'Phew,,got her off my back for that one-- NEXT"

For someone that has proclaimed that he lives for his fans-- that fans are everything and never trick or lie or deceive the fans -- Yet? Hasn't explained or even addressed or even came up with any reasonable or logical excuse or explanation for him (by his own admission) the Web-Marketing Phishin link on his post.

yet, will avoid the issue and use a excuse that ohh they dont know what they are saying - Yeah.. right.. Ok whatever.


I'm not putting him down- he is a Entertainer and is A Professional and simply Doing what he needs to do a 'Show' - keep in mind a Entertainment show consists of smoke/mirrors/and whatever it takes to make the paying customer enjoy the show - and attracts more customers.
Even monkeys wearing pink dancing skirts and rolling parasols while riding a goat walking a tightrope while a trained dog runs in circles under them <,Thats what they are TRAINED to do.

Ok sry let the halftime show continue..

[BabyG]

He never left us. Leaving us is never ever coming back. Where he's off doing something else. If he left us he would have left the Music industry all together. So no he DID NOT leave us.

[tupac]

NUTZ,


YAHOO.

now.

[lovethacarters]

a friend of mine spoke to aaron directly asking if it was alright to give radio stations 'i aint gonna take no more' and he said NO! that cant be happening right now. you should have cleared this with aaron first.

[BabyG]

okay maybe not such a good idea. lol

yeah you're right, clearing it with Aaron would be good. Although I haven't done anything yet and won't. So thanks for clearing that up.

[lovethacarters]

okay maybe not such a good idea. lol

yeah you're right, clearing it with Aaron would be good. Although I haven't done anything yet and won't. So thanks for clearing that up.

ur welcome. but i think smeagolstwin may have already sent it in. hes not gonna be happy. :noway:

[BabyG]

Crap. Not good.

[BabyG]

just sent her a PM asking about it.

[Pnutz]

(cough) Another fine example of Blind leading the blind and how fast people Jump on Bandwagons without Thinking and Examining (cough) Hint Hint

good intentions but--no thought behind it

[BabyG]

Um yup!

[Pnutz]

Just so you know-- in the "REAL WORLD' not PomPom alley -- radio Stations etc Have Proper Protocals when Dealing with LICENSED Musicians and things like Release's and Copyright's and other minor small trivial matters need to be THOUGHT about And EXAMINED before a Real Licensed insured and Syndicated Radio Station would take any risk of going off half cocked -cus someone asks 'Ohh Play this 4 me"?

Was a interesting concept thou. Lotta 'EX' Dj's out there for doing Irresponsible things already.

[tupac]

Some people need to do a little research before they try to act all "holier than thou" and preach about how we should all be positive and take on Aaron's new way of thinking.


FYI..

It's not Aaron's way of thinking, but nice try.

[Pnutz]

I'm waiting for more words of experience , knowledge and insight into how the "REAL WORLD" and the "INDUSTRY" works? Since she seems to disagree with the 3 of us that were raised in it and deal with it daily? and have offered to politely intervene and correct and help guide around some of the traps and pitfalls.

What next ohh kimosabee?

[BabyG]

I just hope she didn't already do it....

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Whoa, wait...I just read back and I think I missed something while on the friggin' painkillers. Submitting a song to a radio station? Is that what she meant? Dude...that's illegal as hell! It's too early in the process to be doing things like that. Besides, that stuff should be handled by Aaron and his crew. You can be positive realistically and stand behind him as he works his way into the studio and stuff. We can't be ahead of him. We gotta stand beside him. If we get ahead of him it can lead to trouble and disappointment cuz the stakes are too high. There's still a long path to go, folks. We gotta stay grounded. Yes, it's exciting for the fans, but we gotta stay here with him. We run too far ahead of him, we'll miss what we passed along the way.

There's a big difference in being cheerleaders and soldiers. Aaron doesn't need soldiers right now. There's nothing to fight for. There shouldn't be a war between fans and haters. If we concentrated on that, we'd never get anything accomplished as fans. We're feeding into the hands of haters by barking back. They don't take us any more seriously than they do Aaron. If we're cheerleaders, we're rooting for him in his current process. THAT is the most important part, not this other stuff. It's okay to disagree with the haters, but don't make it a war. Positivity flow, folks. Make it flow in every direction, don't rock the boat by steering into the high tides. We float into the storm now, nothing good will come of it and we'll be washed up the shore with nothing left to rescue us.




Side Note: Haters refer to no one on this board. Mainly the ONTD people and anti-fans who have nothing better to do than bash. It's one thing to have legit reasons for disapproving feelings and it's a complete other to be a hater because you're miserable in your own life. Just had to clear that up. :)

[BabyG]

^^ Yay that's why I thought she meant. Afterwards I was like wait nooooo not a good idea.

[BabyG]

I didn't even think about it. My mind was somewhere else.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I didn't even think about it. My mind was somewhere else.

My mind is on painkillers. :roll:

[BabyG]

my mind is on painkillers. :roll:


lmao!

[smeagols_twin]

a friend of mine spoke to aaron directly asking if it was alright to give radio stations 'i aint gonna take no more' and he said NO! that cant be happening right now. you should have cleared this with aaron first.

I don't understand. He wants us to vote for a song the radio station can't get. To be honest i don't think most radio stations could be bothered chasing up the artist if a song has been requested.

[smeagols_twin]

Before you all go jumping to conclusions i haven't submitted anything yet and the reason i said provide the link was the radio station could hear it.

I see something really starnge here. Aaron wants the song on radio and he has the song on the internet for everyone to hear yet it's illegal for the radio to play it? That doesn't make any sense.

[smeagols_twin]

Just so you know-- in the "REAL WORLD' not PomPom alley -- radio Stations etc Have Proper Protocals when Dealing with LICENSED Musicians and things like Release's and Copyright's and other minor small trivial matters need to be THOUGHT about And EXAMINED before a Real Licensed insured and Syndicated Radio Station would take any risk of going off half cocked -cus someone asks 'Ohh Play this 4 me"?

Was a interesting concept thou. Lotta 'EX' Dj's out there for doing Irresponsible things already.

I don't know what radio stations you are reffering to but plenty of radio stations have played leaked material without the artist wanting it to be played.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I don't know what radio stations you are reffering to but plenty of radio stations have played leaked material without the artist wanting it to be played.

They have to have permission from the artist by law. If they're playing it without the permission, they can punished by law and the radio station will be sued. It's never a good idea to do that without clearing it with the artist first.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I don't understand. He wants us to vote for a song the radio station can't get. To be honest i don't think most radio stations could be bothered chasing up the artist if a song has been requested.

It's still up to Aaron and his crew to get it on the radio. Submitting any kind of music without proper legal work done can cause some serious problems to anyone who has rights to the song.

[Pnutz]

LMAO ohh I love it - what Planet?

Non-Licensed - Non-RIAA - Garage Bands - and doing NON-COPYRIGHTED stuff submitted BY THE BAND or its REP are one thing..

Playing 'Supposed" Pre-release Demo's That are Properly Documented -properly filed -properly entered intot he Stations Database or, the networks central music library and Administered by a Programming manager - Are Songs that the LABEL or THE ARTIST has Made available to the Network or station and 'SOMETIMES' are played as "Pre-Release" or 'Sneak Peeks" etc-- It's all pre staged and approved waaayy in advance - It's called 'Tease" or 'Ratings Boost Game"

I assure you, With RIAA the way it is right now about --well to You?? about all the simple, minor inconveniences of like ROYALTIES - COPYRIGHTS and other minor things-- May be a burden --but to nationally syndicated stations--well?? they kindda frown on it.

Hence-- the bottom line of my comment-- 'Lotta Former DJ's' - some program managers too for not stopping them and station managers and interns etc etc

I'd suggest leave the brainstorming to Ar's People -your are obviously not equipped to handle this.

TY

[smeagols_twin]

They have to have permission from the artist by law. If they're playing it without the permission, they can punished by law and the radio station will be sued. It's never a good idea to do that without clearing it with the artist first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDXXMoE8nko

Maybe everyone should listen to this.

It's conflicting to say the least. Not saying you guys are wrong but i don't like people saying i put no thought behind it.

[smeagols_twin]

Before anyone points out i realise in this video Aaron doesn't say to vote for his song but that's what he told me.

He said if i could call the radio station and request Aaron Carter at which point i asked what song he wanted me to request and he said "I Aint Gonna Take No More'

[smeagols_twin]

They have to have permission from the artist by law. If they're playing it without the permission, they can punished by law and the radio station will be sued. It's never a good idea to do that without clearing it with the artist first.

I agree but the fact is radio stations do it. Incomplete by BSB was played on the radio without permission and radio stations got a Cease and Desist notice but that is all. She's A Dream and Bigger were being played by radio as well also without permission and nothing seems to have been done about that.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I can't hear the video, so I dunno what he said. I don't get why he'd tell you one thing and another person something else. I dunno. Not my fight. I'll stick to my own campaign and wait til his album is finished before requesting anything.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I agree but the fact is radio stations do it. Incomplete by BSB was played on the radio without permission and radio stations got a Cease and Desist notice but that is all. She's A Dream and Bigger were being played by radio as well also without permission and nothing seems to have been done about that.


I have my own beliefs on leaked material. I'm completely and 100% against them. However, it's a tab bit different with BSB because they're signed under a label and are insured for such things. Aaron on the other hand, is not. That puts him at risk for a lot of things if a song is leaked.

[smeagols_twin]

I have my own beliefs on leaked material. I'm completely and 100% against them. However, it's a tab bit different with BSB because they're signed under a label and are insured for such things. Aaron on the other hand, is not. That puts him at risk for a lot of things if a song is leaked.

I understand but from a radio stations point of view and most fans Aaron has openly posted the song on hitlab so it's not like it's an unauthorised leak anymore

[Pnutz]

And if I may clear it before you ask.

Doing Concert and Public Performances -are also pre approved and actually 'farmed out' to different stations etc.. So,, yes what you see -isn't always what it appears --

Oh BTW -not to bust bubbles? but lotta the Call In LIVE now stuff ? yeah the Artist could be in Bismark ND and the show could be in Florida and they make it sometimes 'sound' like he is there in person 'LIVE' yeah-- the station is like on a list of like 20 that all are tied into a network and one by one "Interview" and make it 'seem' he is there and its usually pre-recorded etc. and the Questions? Ever hear of 'Interns'? <<not saying it happens All the time but alotta the time.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I understand but from a radio stations point of view and most fans Aaron has openly posted the song on hitlab so it's not like it's an unauthorised leak anymore

That's HitLab, not a radio station. Whole other ballpark. Total different authorization laws.

[smeagols_twin]

And if I may clear it before you ask.

Doing Concert and Public Performances -are also pre approved and actually 'farmed out' to different stations etc.. So,, yes what you see -isn't always what it appears --

Oh BTW -not to bust bubbles? but lotta the Call In LIVE now stuff ? yeah the Artist could be in Bismark ND and the show could be in Florida and they make it sometimes 'sound' like he is there in person 'LIVE' yeah-- the station is like on a list of like 20 that all are tied into a network and one by one "Interview" and make it 'seem' he is there and its usually pre-recorded etc. and the Questions? Ever hear of 'Interns'? <<not saying it happens All the time but alotta the time.

Ok now you lost me. What exactly are you trying to say? and more importantly what does it have to do with Aar's song on radio?

[smeagols_twin]

That's HitLab, not a radio station. Whole other ballpark. Total different authorization laws.

I understand that but i am saying Aaron has put the song out there to be heard. I know Aaron is apparently unsigned but regardless some radio stations don't know and they wouldn't be bothered to find out.

I just don't know. He obviously wants his song on the radio but i don't know how he plans on getting it there.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I understand that but i am saying Aaron has put the song out there to be heard. I know Aaron is apparently unsigned but regardless some radio stations don't know and they wouldn't be bothered to find out.

I just don't know. He obviously wants his song on the radio but i don't know how he plans on getting it there.

I'm sure him and his new manager are working on a plan as we speak. He's working the studio again. I'm sure there's a lot in the works right now. It's just a waiting game until then. It really isn't up to us to do anything unless he makes it publicly known like he did with HitLab. It's put there, but you can't download it or anything. That's where the song is protected, if I'm understanding that correctly. Someone correct me if I'm not understanding that.

[bunnycat1981]

Wow, been avoiding this, been hearing about it, wow, ok, bottom line here and I'm sorry you have to agree: You don't know how the music industry works.

[Pnutz]

Ok now you lost me. What exactly are you trying to say? and more importantly what does it have to do with Aar's song on radio?


Ok I have to apologize in advance but I've had a rough week so I didn't mean to be snappy - Im usually the calm cool collected one -so forgive me.

I keep forgetting that people that dont know what im sometimes talking about is because im use to dealing with people that deal with these things daily and thereforI sometimes forget to explain in a manner than is understandable. So, I aploigise for that.

Ok take Mileys PROMO radio thing-- that was about 35 stations all in order that have a central connection to Clear channels PR desk - Then Miley and her handlers /Managers etc. Work out a List of what each station can and cannot ask etc. and she gets a summary sheet of what to answer and how to 'personalise' each intervew to Suit the Stations location etc.

Here is a Well Publicised example that was covered on Perez as well as others > http://mj.933flz.com/pages/mainfeed.html?feed=204719&article=5597134

Here the DJ is known for cutting thru the BS and getting to basics -and the same station made some huge Hanna Montana Mock Statue thing and Had it on a trailer at her last Gig in the stations area -yet? it slipped thru the Handlers of exactly which station this was and.. really?? well shouldda expected it.

But most the other interviews? were done so that it "Appeared" She randomally called in to the station to say Hi-- Its all Called PR <public Relations and Promo --all pre-staged and pre-arrranged and pre-recorded -- and lotta times when Ohh callers call in now to talk? well lotta times its the station interns pretending they are random callers and its pre-taped the day before. Catching on yet?

All is NOT what it seems at times-- Lotta Lotta Smoke and Mirrors in the "ENTERTAINMENT" industry -vs the Music Industry.

[smeagols_twin]

Wow, been avoiding this, been hearing about it, wow, ok, bottom line here and I'm sorry you have to agree: You don't know how the music industry works.

No i don't know how it works but i know what Aaron said.

So instead of discussing the point why don't we go for voting for the song and not show it's online. I'm sure if the radio stations can be bothered they'll work it out for themselves.

so www.kbpk-fm.com Is anyone a local "i'm looking at you lurkers" lol.

Should we request?

[BSBSavedMyLife]

No i don't know how it works but i know what Aaron said.

So instead of discussing the point why don't we go for voting for the song and not show it's online. I'm sure if the radio stations can be bothered they'll work it out for themselves.

so www.kbpk-fm.com Is anyone a local "i'm looking at you lurkers" lol.

Should we request?


I don't feel comfortable with it without knowing details, but to each their own.

[smeagols_twin]

Ok I have to apologize in advance but I've had a rough week so I didn't mean to be snappy - Im usually the calm cool collected one -so forgive me.

I keep forgetting that people that dont know what im sometimes talking about is because im use to dealing with people that deal with these things daily and thereforI sometimes forget to explain in a manner than is understandable. So, I aploigise for that.

Ok take Mileys PROMO radio thing-- that was about 35 stations all in order that have a central connection to Clear channels PR desk - Then Miley and her handlers /Managers etc. Work out a List of what each station can and cannot ask etc. and she gets a summary sheet of what to answer and how to 'personalise' each intervew to Suit the Stations location etc.

Here is a Well Publicised example that was covered on Perez as well as others > http://mj.933flz.com/pages/mainfeed.html?feed=204719&article=5597134

Here the DJ is known for cutting thru the BS and getting to basics -and the same station made some huge Hanna Montana Mock Statue thing and Had it on a trailer at her last Gig in the stations area -yet? it slipped thru the Handlers of exactly which station this was and.. really?? well shouldda expected it.

But most the other interviews? were done so that it "Appeared" She randomally called in to the station to say Hi-- Its all Called PR <public Relations and Promo --all pre-staged and pre-arrranged and pre-recorded -- and lotta times when Ohh callers call in now to talk? well lotta times its the station interns pretending they are random callers and its pre-taped the day before. Catching on yet?

All is NOT what it seems at times-- Lotta Lotta Smoke and Mirrors in the "ENTERTAINMENT" industry -vs the Music Industry.

Thanks :) Now call me stupid if you want but i'm still not sure how this relates to Aaron as the only "interviews" or convo's i have talked about were with fans.

[smeagols_twin]

I don't feel comfortable with it without knowing details, but to each their own.

Look i understand the each to their own thing but the whole point of this was to get fans to act as a team to get some results. Everyone so far seems against that.

It really isn't much clearer as far as i'm concerned. Aaron asked fans to request I Aint Gonna Take No More!

[bunnycat1981]

No i don't know how it works



Just thought I'd frame that for all to see clearly :)

[Pnutz]

Hey Go for it .. Sound like a Excellent idea meanwhile--i'm going fishing

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Look i understand the each to their own thing but the whole point of this was to get fans to act as a team to get some results. Everyone so far seems against that.

It really isn't much clearer as far as i'm concerned. Aaron asked fans to request I Aint Gonna Take No More!

Like I said, fans can do what they want, but until I see him publicly say and it's completely official, I don't feel comfortable with it. I'm not dogging you for it. If you say he told you do it, then do it. I didn't hear him say it, so I won't until I do, but by all means, do your thing.

[Pnutz]

Before anyone points out i realise in this video Aaron doesn't say to vote for his song but that's what he told me.

He said if i could call the radio station and request Aaron Carter at which point i asked what song he wanted me to request and he said "I Aint Gonna Take No More'


Very True - Cus I didnt hear him Grant any Permission in the Video-- And Calling a Station to REQUEST is something else TOTALLY -in other words say a station gets 3,500 requests from call in's asking for a certain song -the Program Manager then Checks the Availability on the Music server--if it isnt there they then submitt a form to inquire -then the Legal Teams contact the Artist Rep or label and work a deal to arrange to get Permission to play it-- Catching On?

and again I apologize for not being more clear concise and specific in a attempt to try to explain but.. its LD there are only sooo many avail words thta can be typed and.. I dont want to be 3 hrs explaining the whole process

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Okay, I know I'm hard of hearing, but where in that video did he say he wanted airplay for his song? All I heard was him asking them to tell people that he's back. That's how I understood it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's all I heard.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Very True - Cus I didnt hear him Grant any Permission in the Video-- And Calling a Station to REQUEST is something else TOTALLY -in other words say a station gets 3,500 requests from call in's asking for a certain song -the Program Manager then Checks the Availability on the Music server--if it isnt there they then submitt a form to inquire -then the Legal Teams contact the Artist Rep or label and work a deal to arrange to get Permission to play it-- Catching On?


Excellent explanation. I see where AC's going with that now. Makes a lot more sense.

[smeagols_twin]

Very True - Cus I didnt hear him Grant any Permission in the Video-- And Calling a Station to REQUEST is something else TOTALLY -in other words say a station gets 3,500 requests from call in's asking for a certain song -the Program Manager then Checks the Availability on the Music server--if it isnt there they then submitt a form to inquire -then the Legal Teams contact the Artist Rep or label and work a deal to arrange to get Permission to play it-- Catching On?

and again I apologize for not being more clear concise and specific in a attempt to try to explain but.. its LD there are only sooo many avail words thta can be typed and.. I dont want to be 3 hrs explaining the whole process

No need to apologize and thanks for your time. I hope they do get enough requests that they search for it but i think some radio stations won't be bothereed to find out how to get a song from Aaron Carter unfortunately

[smeagols_twin]

Just thought I'd frame that for all to see clearly :)

What's with you? Do i have to know about the music business now to post an opinoin or idea? Don't belittle me cos it won't get you anywhere.

[Pnutz]

Excellent explanation. I see where AC's going with that now. Makes a lot more sense.


Careful now Rach by Seeing stuff and actually understanding how things work in the 'Real World' and why some things are done in certain ways and how 'seeds' are planted -someone is liable to say --Ohh she gets 'inside info' and start a lotta stuff based on assumption and hearsay and next ya know some 1/2 wit will be jumping up and down on the bandwagon as it goes by -helplessly without anyone at the controls on a runaway ride and be calling you names.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Careful now Rach by Seeing stuff and actually understanding how things work in the 'Real World' and why some things are done in certain ways and how 'seeds' are planted -someone is liable to say --Ohh she gets 'inside info' and start a lotta stuff based on assumption and hearsay and next ya know some 1/2 wit will be jumping up and down on the bandwagon as it goes by -helplessly without anyone at the controls on a runaway ride and be calling you names.

LMFAO! :roll: You knew what I meant, smartass. But I do see your point. :p

[smeagols_twin]

In case anyone was wondering i'm abandoning the idea.
I don't mean any disrespect to Aaron when i say this but it's his career and his single so he needs to get it sorted out. Obviously some fans aren't willing to do much so it's going to be extremely tough for him to come back.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

In case anyone was wondering i'm abandoning the idea.
I don't mean any disrespect to Aaron when i say this but it's his career and his single so he needs to get it sorted out. Obviously some fans aren't willing to do much so it's going to be extremely tough for him to come back.



Okay, you just said two totally different things here. First you say, it's his career and he should work it out. This I agree with. If he wants a successful comeback, he's gonna have to come up with some strategies. Work out the kinks. Get with his peeps and get the ball rolling.

Now, this thing about some fans not willing to do much?! What the hell is that?! There wasn't enough detail to go off of in the idea. I mean, sure, yeah, it sounds like a plan, but you were the only one that got told to go ahead and do it. You tell us about how you don't know about taking other people's words without proof. So, why can't we do the same thing? We don't know he said that to you. Someone else here said that he told them no, not to do it. It's not a question of wanting to help, it's an issue of not having the sources and details. Now if Aaron made some big announcement like, "Here's my song. Call your radio stations and tell em to play it." Sure, I'd do it! I'm quick to support anyone I'm a fan of if I got the right kind of sources to abide by. I'm all about details. It saves me the headache of cleaning up a mess later. If that makes me a bad fan, well, then I guess I'm a bad fan. Can't change that about me.

If that's not what you meant by it then you should choose your words more carefully. It's exactly how it looked. There's a lot of stuff weighing in the air between rumors, unconfirmed details, and legal issues. Some of us are just more cautious than others.

[smeagols_twin]

I don't blame any of you for not believing me, that's fair enough BUT there is a video of Aaron saying he wants people to ring up the radio stations to let them know he's back.

To me logically why would a radio station care he's back unless he's got a new song? So i suggest we request the new song. Sure you may not agree with it and i can do what i want but i'm only one person and one person alone doesn't make a difference.

Unfortunately it seems Aaron has to make it blatantly obvious for fans to act. Think about it, even if we request the song and radio stations do play it and it turns out Aaron didn't want that to happen then in my eyes the worse thing that can happen is the radio station gets a Cease and Desist notice. I know what everyone has said about labels not wanting to take chances on Aaron due to this stuff happening but this is a song that he has made available on the net already and radio play will only give him more exposure.

If he can get consistent radio play and more fans wanting to hear from him then Aaron's $$$$ goes up and he may go into the view of record labels.

The flip side is that the song fails miserably and it possibly makes it harder for Aaron to break through. Though if this is the case then the case will be people just don't want to Aaron Carter or maybe it was the wrong song. If it was the wrong song then that comes down to poor planning.

I know people don't know what to think as it's my word vs yours but i still stand by the fact he told me to vote for that song and if i could have recorded the convo i would have and i will try and ring him and get the confirmation recorded so there can't be any doubt.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

I don't blame any of you for not believing me, that's fair enough BUT there is a video of Aaron saying he wants people to ring up the radio stations to let them know he's back.

To me logically why would a radio station care he's back unless he's got a new song? So i suggest we request the new song. Sure you may not agree with it and i can do what i want but i'm only one person and one person alone doesn't make a difference.

Unfortunately it seems Aaron has to make it blatantly obvious for fans to act. Think about it, even if we request the song and radio stations do play it and it turns out Aaron didn't want that to happen then in my eyes the worse thing that can happen is the radio station gets a Cease and Desist notice. I know what everyone has said about labels not wanting to take chances on Aaron due to this stuff happening but this is a song that he has made available on the net already and radio play will only give him more exposure.

If he can get consistent radio play and more fans wanting to hear from him then Aaron's $$$$ goes up and he may go into the view of record labels.

The flip side is that the song fails miserably and it possibly makes it harder for Aaron to break through. Though if this is the case then the case will be people just don't want to Aaron Carter or maybe it was the wrong song. If it was the wrong song then that comes down to poor planning.

I know people don't know what to think as it's my word vs yours but i still stand by the fact he told me to vote for that song and if i could have recorded the convo i would have and i will try and ring him and get the confirmation recorded so there can't be any doubt.


What I'm saying though is that if he doesn't want the song played on the radio, there's a reason for it. Yes, voting for it on HitLab is one thing. That's a whole other aspect of it. I think his main focus is getting the word out that he's coming back. There are a number of people that would wanna go along with you on the the whole request the leaked song thing, but it's just not me. I just know how bad that can be for someone who's not signed to a label. I couldn't do that to him. I can't do that and won't do that. I'll vote for a song. That's different. I know I'm a bad fan for it, but I respect him as a musician too much. I just can't. No disrespects to others who'd be willing to do it. It's their choice.

[NiCkFaN]

Ok so i skimmed through some of these posts but I have a general question.

Do you guys think aarons taking the right steps to get back into the music scene? etc. hitlab, myspace, twitter.

I really dont know how far along he is with his album but i do know he isnt signed to a record label or at least a semi major label. I dont think anybody knows for sure how far along he is to getting an album out there but i think i remember him mentioning that he's just beginning but hes "back".

What are your views on this? I think he has his head in the right place and he IS trying.

[AaronsShorty]

Ok so i skimmed through some of these posts but I have a general question.

Do you guys think aarons taking the right steps to get back into the music scene? etc. hitlab, myspace, twitter.

I really dont know how far along he is with his album but i do know he isnt signed to a record label or at least a semi major label. I dont think anybody knows for sure how far along he is to getting an album out there but i think i remember him mentioning that he's just beginning but hes "back".

What are your views on this? I think he has his head in the right place and he IS trying.

He definitely is trying. Its very hard to make a comeback being in his position in which he is mostly known for singing "I Want Candy" and his old songs.
But he is putting himself out there and working his butt off in the studio and it doing as much as he can to get himself known for his new music. I give him so much credit for making this comeback because it is a very hard thing to do. But I know that, in time, he is going to create an amazing album, and I can't wait to hear it!

[NiCkFaN]

Ok so i skimmed through some of these posts but I have a general question.

Do you guys think aarons taking the right steps to get back into the music scene? etc. hitlab, myspace, twitter.

I really dont know how far along he is with his album but i do know he isnt signed to a record label or at least a semi major label. I dont think anybody knows for sure how far along he is to getting an album out there but i think i remember him mentioning that he's just beginning but hes "back".

What are your views on this? I think he has his head in the right place and he IS trying.

He definitely is trying. Its very hard to make a comeback being in his position in which he is mostly known for singing "I Want Candy" and his old songs.
But he is putting himself out there and working his butt off in the studio and it doing as much as he can to get himself known for his new music. I give him so much credit for making this comeback because it is a very hard thing to do. But I know that, in time, he is going to create an amazing album, and I can't wait to hear it!

Yeah I really am loving "Perfect Storm" and "Oh No!"

and that song he was recording on Ustream Iv had stuck in my head ever since!

I give the boy credit too.

[BSBSavedMyLife]

Ok so i skimmed through some of these posts but I have a general question.

Do you guys think aarons taking the right steps to get back into the music scene? etc. hitlab, myspace, twitter.

I really dont know how far along he is with his album but i do know he isnt signed to a record label or at least a semi major label. I dont think anybody knows for sure how far along he is to getting an album out there but i think i remember him mentioning that he's just beginning but hes "back".

What are your views on this? I think he has his head in the right place and he IS trying.


Not touching that one with a ten foot pole. I'll wind up getting my head bit off cuz my opinions are usually stupid anyway. I'm just taking it one step at a time with him. Whatever direction he takes, that's the direction I take with him. He's a big boy, he can do what he wants. If he succeeds, I'll cheer him on. If he fails, I'll stand by and pray he can get back up again. In his situation, there's not really much he can do. He's not on a label, no publicist or anything like that. He does have a manager, which is a good step in the right direction. Twitter's a great place to get people's attention. So, for my own sanity, I don't think, I just follow.

[AaronsShorty]

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Yeah I really am loving "Perfect Storm" and "Oh No!"

and that song he was recording on Ustream Iv had stuck in my head ever since!

I give the boy credit too.

The songs are amazing!

I'm so proud of him!

and that "damn" song from ustream was stuck in my head allllll night last night :laugh:

i couldnt sleep lol

[NiCkFaN]

Not touching that one with a ten foot pole. I'll wind up getting my head bit off cuz my opinions are usually stupid anyway. I'm just taking it one step at a time with him. Whatever direction he takes, that's the direction I take with him. He's a big boy, he can do what he wants. If he succeeds, I'll cheer him on. If he fails, I'll stand by and pray he can get back up again. In his situation, there's not really much he can do. He's not on a label, no publicist or anything like that. He does have a manager, which is a good step in the right direction. Twitter's a great place to get people's attention. So, for my own sanity, I don't think, I just follow.

Nice!

[smeagols_twin]

What I'm saying though is that if he doesn't want the song played on the radio, there's a reason for it. Yes, voting for it on HitLab is one thing. That's a whole other aspect of it. I think his main focus is getting the word out that he's coming back. There are a number of people that would wanna go along with you on the the whole request the leaked song thing, but it's just not me. I just know how bad that can be for someone who's not signed to a label. I couldn't do that to him. I can't do that and won't do that. I'll vote for a song. That's different. I know I'm a bad fan for it, but I respect him as a musician too much. I just can't. No disrespects to others who'd be willing to do it. It's their choice.

Don't call yourself a bad fan! No such thing.

Personally i don't see how it can hurt him so that's why i though of it but granted i don't know everything so i will just personally request on my local station as he asked me to.

[smeagols_twin]

Ok so i skimmed through some of these posts but I have a general question.

Do you guys think aarons taking the right steps to get back into the music scene? etc. hitlab, myspace, twitter.

I really dont know how far along he is with his album but i do know he isnt signed to a record label or at least a semi major label. I dont think anybody knows for sure how far along he is to getting an album out there but i think i remember him mentioning that he's just beginning but hes "back".

What are your views on this? I think he has his head in the right place and he IS trying.

As far as being unsigned and i would imagine a limited budget he is doing a great job promoting himself and better than certain record companies "cough" Jive "cough"

The only criticism i can make is lack of communication and information about the music. I know we have beats and a couple of songs but he hasn't said much about titles and how far he is with the album. I would hope that he is close to finishing his record as he's got the momentum in terms of public interest. he seems to be rolling things along quite well.

One last thing though i do think he may be rushing things as far as a single is concerned. I like I Aint Gonna Take No More but i think he has better songs eg Perfect Storm and he needs to release something that will really get attention.

All the luck to him though.

[bunnycat1981]

What's with you? Do i have to know about the music business now to post an opinoin or idea? Don't belittle me cos it won't get you anywhere.

Thought I better come back to this...

Actually, it was more the fact that it is a rare thing from you to admit something like that. Thought everyone should see it. Highlighted, is all it was.

And FYI I've done the same thing to my friends here before... so don't say I'm belittling you. You obviously don't know me very well.

[smeagols_twin]

Thought I better come back to this...

Actually, it was more the fact that it is a rare thing from you to admit something like that. Thought everyone should see it. Highlighted, is all it was.

And FYI I've done the same thing to my friends here before... so don't say I'm belittling you. You obviously don't know me very well.

Of course i don't know you very well lol and no one on this board knows me at all and you probably have a very skewed view of me due to my comments but oh well.