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Richard Tafoya
Jun 26th, 2009, 05:38 PM
Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/26/climate-change-bill-may-h_n_221564.html

After a tense debate, in which the margin of success or failure never moved beyond a handful of votes, the House of Representatives passed the most sweeping climate change policy ever considered by Congress early Friday evening.


The outcome had remained up in the air up until the actual vote, with the White House and the president himself engaging in a heavy lobbying campaign aimed at restoring Democratic Party unity that seemed to be fracturing.

Hoping to stem what seemed increasingly like a Democratic victory, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) deployed an infrequently used parliamentary procedure to delay the bill's consideration - reading before the House a 300-page amendment that had been offered to the 1,200-page bill Friday morning.

After an hour of reading the text derisively, Boehner finally surrendered the floor. A raucous Democratic caucus quickly asked for vote to be taken, after which it was revealed that the White House and Democratic leadership's efforts had paid off. The House passed the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 by a vote of 219 to 212. Forty-four Democrats voted against the measure and only eight Republicans yes.

The climate change bill would reset drastically the way the U.S. government approaches the issue of regulating pollution. Instituting a cap and trade system, the bill aims to cut America's production of greenhouse gases by 17 percent by 2020, and 83 percent by 2050. The legislation also includes provisions to create alternative energy sources and cleaner technologies, as well as more efficient building standards.

db44
Jun 27th, 2009, 10:45 AM
Good news, indeed! Hope it gets all the way through...

tiger_rascal
Jun 27th, 2009, 12:17 PM
Good! Can they please make it a little cooler outside here for the 4th of July weekend? K thanx Bye!

Richard Tafoya
Jun 27th, 2009, 03:01 PM
You might want to hang out at the mall that day if you want cool.

pinky
Jun 27th, 2009, 04:22 PM
Can they dry things out up here in the northeast? We have mushrooms on our front lawn! :eek:

Java
Jun 27th, 2009, 06:48 PM
I just pray for a good wheat harvest in China this year so that world grain markets will remain relatively stable as China is the only nation on earth that a failure in grain harvests could make world grain markets become unstable, sending prices through the stratosphere! A failure here could indeed make a piece of bread cost worth a sack of gold in many parts of the world.

tiger_rascal
Jun 27th, 2009, 07:52 PM
Can they dry things out up here in the northeast? We have mushrooms on our front lawn! :eek:

:roll:

It rained so much here in the past 4 weeks that we have algae growing in our backyard! Its disgusting. You cant even walk in the backyard, you slip and slide. But, its actually been fairly dry here the past week, so the algae is quickly drying up.

Regis Philbin
Jun 28th, 2009, 09:59 PM
:redcool: It most certainly is, especially if you're a taxpayer or utility rate-payer, which is just about everybody. If you're an elitist environmentalist with extensive investments in the "green" (re: $$$ ) power industry then you're sittin' pretty. :nod:

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/boehner-climate-bill-a-pile-of-s--t-2009-06-27.html

Boehner: Climate bill a 'pile of s--t'

By Molly K. Hooper
Posted: 06/27/09 09:22 PM [ET]

Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) had a few choice words about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) landmark climate-change bill after its passage Friday.

When asked why he read portions of the cap-and-trade bill on the floor Friday night, Boehner told The Hill, "Hey, people deserve to know what's in this pile of s--t."

Using his privilege as leader to speak for an unlimited time on the House floor, Boehner spent an hour reading from the 1200-plus page bill that was amended 20 hours before the lower chamber voted 219-212 to approve it.

Eight Republicans voted with Democrats to pass the bill; 44 House Democrats voted against it.

Pelosi's office declined to comment on Boehner's jab. But one Democratic aide quipped, "What do you expect from a guy who thinks global warming is caused by cow manure?"

Even though Sen. Majorty Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) holds the bill's fate in his hands, House Republicans intend to hammer Speaker Pelosi's signature climate-change measure over recess.

And GOP Conference Chairman Rep. Mike Pence (Ind.) said "we have only just begun to fight” as he left the Capitol Friday night.

db44
Jun 29th, 2009, 08:12 AM
Boehner knows $#!^ when he sees it... He's so good at spewing it afterall.

Figures, the party of dinosaurs want to keep using fossil fuels. The fact that they want to keep using destructive ways until they don't exist is just pathetic.

This bill, and cutting down on carbon emissions and such are win-win-win, unless you make your living off Big Oil. Renewable energy? Why burn materials for something you can harvest non-stop? How can you talk about the economic "destruction" this will cause when in the long run it will create a whole new industry, with jobs that will be safer (and I'd bet better-paying) than running an oil rig?

Considering the sun and the storms that Texas has, I really don't see why the oil companies wouldn't start building out now. They can power the whole Midwest, and you can't tell me that's going to be economically bad. They say with the sun we have in AZ, we could power the whole country.

With the above, please tell me how oil companies can claim to be Patriotic, when they do their best to shoot down any way for us to cut our need for OPEC down so drastically.

lions1mew
Jun 29th, 2009, 09:15 AM
Too much logic, my fellow Airy Zonian! They can't handle facts remember? LOL

At Arizona State, they are continuing to build new structures and putting solar panels across the whole roof. I think I read somewhere that the university plans to be energy-sustainable within 3-5 years. Now THAT is the way to go!